tom the cat shooting himself

You gotta love cartoon physics.

Great meme, btw, upvoted.

The Germans did it in ww2 with machine guns.

Though they did have a tendency to explode.

Exactly!
Cause raising taxes to give people "free" money is totally gonna help. The only thing it does is take your money, so that you're dependent on the government to give it back.

Plus it gets wasted on Xbox games from Amazon and weed and booze most of the time

Exactly. If the people didn't work for their money, why would they spend it responsibly?

True

and ho hos. hoes need their ho hos. nothing like little debbies snack cakes after a hard day smoking weed

lol, tell that to the 30% of taxes we do have. Taxes are taxes, they go to the government, and that's the place we get handouts from.

Can you name ONE Tax in the history of Taxation that remained at it's Introductory Percentage AND limited to its original target 'demographic'?

because I can almost Guarantee that when "only $400k and up" doesn't cut it, the threshold will be lowered to $350k, then $300k and so on

All Lefties in the world

And socialists

guess that explains why more folks moving out of NYC.
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Personally I'd love it if we abolished federal taxes on citizens. Now, this sounds crazy at first, but think about this:

- States then pick up the slack and tax their citizens in whatever ways make the most sense for each citizen in localities that vary economically.

- The Feds then tax this state revenue, and the remainder is left to the states for their own budgets.

- The Feds tax foreign commerce (as allowed under the Constitution) via tariffs and VAC's.

- We the people then only have to worry about our state taxes, and those state taxes and the programs involved would be much better tailored for the needs of its citizens down to the county level.

So many people that don't understand the vast wealth that has been hoarded by the richest in the United States.

Universal Basic Income is reasonable and best for our quickly automating industries.

How people cheer for Amazon paying no taxes, and Trump paying less than middle class workers, is beyond me.

Taxation is a benefit to society, that isnhow we get roads, schools, the justice system... you know, civil society.

Except we already have roads, schools, and the justice system, along with a million other government programs. We don't need more. And some people aren't so consumed with jealousy that they hate people who have more than them.

You can always become a hermit, go live by yourself somewhere.

People are asking for Healthcare, and your over here telling them they should be happy Senators have healthcare. You're the punchline of a bad joke

I don't have health insurance myself atm because of the way insurance prices skyrocketed after ACA passed(I've chosen at least in the mean time to be uninsured to save money since I'm healthy, and yeah I know how risky that is), and yes I'm still saying that it shouldn't bother you that some people have more money than you do. The fact that congress people receive health insurance does not bother me. There are loads of companies in the country that also offer insurance to their employees, and if you make so little you can't afford private insurance at all then you qualify for medicaid. People's problem is that they spend and borrow their money in irresponsible ways. If you didn't take out a bunch of loans you couldn't pay back, you wouldn't be in debt. Cause and effect. Actions have consequences.

Holy shit, you vote against your own best interest.

That is amazing

I'll be the one who determines my own best interest, not you.

Yor Arguments are filled with fallacies.

First, wealth can not be "hoarded", wealth is created. Wealth is not a pie that is divided among us and when all the pieces are given out there is no more. Wealth is people baking pies. The very rich have just baked more pies than you. You want to be rich, work harder or smarter, and bake more pies thereby creating your own wealth.

There was no Federal Income Tax before 1861, and guess what, we had roads, schools, and an army and navy. So federal income taxes are not the only way to pay for public services. The federal income tax was started to pay for the cost of the Civil War, but like all taxes, it never went away after the war was paid for.

I have no problem paying for roads, parks, police, an army, and a navy because, in the end, I derive a benefit from these services.

I receive no benefit from paying for your healthcare, nor from paying for your college degree in transgender dance theory.

If you want healthcare, get a job, and buy your own. You want to go to college, save up, and pay your own way or make the colleges use some of their billions of dollars in endowments to subsidize themselves.

Universal basic income is not only a socialist concept, it is detrimental to a functioning society. It disincentivizes people from trying to advance themselves, drains money that could be used elsewhere, makes people dependent on the government, and destroys liberty. UBI is like unlimited unemployment with no requirement to seek work. Never mind the cost.

Anything the government gives you, they can take away. The other problem is, eventually, you run out of other people's money.

You complain about the "1% not paying their share". In the U.S. in 2017, the top 1% of earners paid more than 38.5% of all taxes. The top 5% paid more than 52% of all taxes. The top 10% paid more than 90% of everyone else. How much of their money is a fair share? BTW, the bottom 50% paid just 3%.

As far as anyone paying as little taxes as is required, good for them. They are following the law.

Companies like Amazon and others pay little in income tax because they pay large amounts in payroll taxes social security and medicare, salaries, employee healthcare, employee education, investment in factories and real estate, investments in equipment, etc.

If you don't like the loopholes in the tax code, why hasn't your saviors Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders, who have been in government for decades and wrote those tax codes, changed them?

I can’t upvote this enough

Wealth can most certainly be hoarded. You are literally introducing a fallacy by claiming money is made by working hard. As if people who work hard automatically make money. They don't. Plenty of people work damn hard jobs, harder than Bezos, and don't make near as much money. This elitist, get what you deserve attitude, is caustic. Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. We can try to make it better, or we can do as you suggest and roll in shit.

Healthcare is a human right.

UBI doesn't hurt anything, you fear monger. People will continue to work for things they want, even if they have what they need to survive provided.

Listen to you celebrate the rich getting richer, and keeping societal wealth for their personal gain. Shame on you.

No one should be happy about poverty, but here you are.

Yes. People who work harder, work smarter, or create something new DO make money. That’s exactly how it works.

UBI de incentivizes everyone. It lessens incentive for the poor to get a higher job, since they’re already getting extra money. It lessens inventive for those already with higher jobs to keep at it or improve since the more they make the more is taken from them. It relies on splitting the capital, but soon enough there is less total capital to split, and THAT is how socialism leads to poverty.

As the rich get richer the poor get richer.

You really don't understand economics.

How can you hoard something that is available in infinite supply? Since wealth is created, anybody can create their own wealth no matter how wealthy anybody else is. What you want is for the rich to give you some of the wealth that they created, wealth that you did not earn or create.

Working hard doesn't automatically make you rich and working for someone else will never make you truly rich. You can be well-off working for somebody else, but you will never be as rich as a person who develops a new product people want, starts a business that meets a demand not even thought of before, or makes life easier. Not everybody can be rich and most people don't have the intelligence or foresight to be rich. Some people don't want to take the chances necessary or are incapable of imagining a product people want.

I don't celebrate the rich, but I do admire people who came up with a new idea, or a business that benefits society or makes life better.

As far as Jeff Bezos, he worked very hard and took many risks for many years to start Amazon. He built a business from selling books online from his garage to the world's largest online retailer. He did not take wealth from somebody else, he created his own wealth. He is now enjoying the results.

UBI is far more dangerous than you can imagine. If everything is provided to you for free, why would you take a job picking up garbage or waiting tables? Also, who pays for all this free stuff? Yangs UBI plan was estimated to cost $2.3 Trillion a year. That is almost 70% of all the 2018 U.S. tax revenue.

Healthcare is not a right and never has been. It is a service. Nothing that requires the services or work product of another can be a right. You nor anybody else has a right to my work product unless I agree to it.

Most of your rights are outlined in the Consitution, and it doesn't mention healthcare or UBI.

Amen.

The democrats act like people are dropping dead in the street because they don’t have “free” healthcare.

They don’t “cheer” for amazon but even the people that allow it do so because amazon opens hundreds of thousands of new jobs, donate to education systems, and even support smaller business development. Also you say the top 1% but did you know if you make $730,000 or more you are 1%? Also the rich are the ones who invest most and that is what drives an economy forward, the more they are taxed, the less they invest. The Obama era showed that very well.

Trickledown economics failed spectacularly

Your right to live in a fantasy land though, no one can force you to face reality.

I'll take trickle down economics anytime before trickle up poverty. Besides, the US is in a trickle down economy right now (Up intil covid that is) and so far there has been a sharp increase in GDP, production, wages, and job openings. I'm going to call this as a win for the economy.

You're unfortunately wasting your time. This clown is completely convinced that capitalism is the source of all evil in the world, despite the fact that it has brought more people out of poverty than any other system in history

Well you’re totally right. I’ll just save my time

I can tell you why with one word. Corruption