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Donald trump approves | FIRST PRESIDENT TO HAVE ENEMIES AS HIS MOST LOYAL FOLLOWERS | image tagged in donald trump approves | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Trump revived the TeaBagger Party.
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What’s with all the [deletes] in my inbox?

What happened to Timbr1927...? Did the emo racist Trump supporter delete his troll account....?
Took a break after I saw him call someone a ni**er and a tranny. F**k him.

Too bad. Emo dude’s going to miss out on all the fun.

Texas launched a doozy of a challenge. Calling it Hail Mary pass. Better analogy would be trying to kick a 99 yard field goal from your own first yard line when you’re already down by 28 points.

The state of Texas filed an audacious lawsuit in the Supreme Court on Tuesday against four other states, asking the justices to extend the Dec. 14 deadline for certification of presidential electors.

The suit, filed by the state’s attorney general, Ken Paxton, said Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had engaged in election irregularities that require investigation, and it asked the court to “enjoin the use of unlawful election results without review and ratification by the defendant states’ legislatures.”

The Constitution gives the Supreme Court “original jurisdiction” to hear disputes “in which a state shall be party.” In such cases, the Supreme Court acts much like a trial court, appointing a special master to hear evidence and issue recommendations. Though the Constitution seems to require the court to hear cases brought by states, the court has ruled that it has discretion to turn them down and often does.

When the court does exercise its original jurisdiction, it is usually to adjudicate disputes between two states over issues like water rights.

It’s ahem shortcomings: “Texas doesn’t have standing to raise these claims as it has no say over how other states choose electors; it could raise these issues in other cases and does not need to go straight to the Supreme Court; it waited too late to sue; the remedy Texas suggests of disenfranchising tens of millions of voters after the fact is unconstitutional; there’s no reason to believe the voting conducted in any of the states was done unconstitutionally; it’s too late for the Supreme Court to grant a remedy even if the claims were meritorious (they are not).”

To call Trump litigation a clown show is a tremendous insult to clowns. Some have compared their error-ridden filings to prisoners filing on their own. But prisoners don't have J.D.'s and limitless resources. Top lawyers haven't touched these cases for a reason. They're garbage.
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Folks, this will be fun. And don’t forget to read the last sentence. LOL! 👍🏻
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Newsmax bullshit | image tagged in newsmax bullshit | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
All of the allegedly explosive allegations so far have gone whiff as soon as they enter a courtroom: I.e. a reality-based universe

But we’ll see!

People are saying!
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Did you see this ruling from Friday night?

Read as much as you care to here, but I posted the tl;dr summary above

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/pennsylvania-trump-lawsuit-dismissal/index.html

My overall analysis of where things stand in this election:

imgflip.com/i/4m5yhx#com7274944

Republican judge too! Good guy, applying Federalist Society-approved principles of judicial minimalism. I.e. judges don’t overturn the will of the people

Agree or nah?
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Oh, that's not true. That's an uneducated take. Have 2 understand how the legal process plays out.

Sharing something we passed around at Lynne Cheney's campaign where we campaigned.

The path looks like this
1) appeal, and run to SCOTUS if the appeal fails
2) they send it back to district court
3) do expedited proceedings to try to get an injunction
4) hope SCOTUS certs it

Alan Dershowitz did a great explanation on Fox tonight! He points out that there simply isn't time for this to play out and the biggest obstacle for Trump is that his lawyers are simply not introducing any tangible evidence in court.

You can't try to win on retail claims like affidavits or irregularities or a few stolen votes here or there. The remedy for that isn't throwing out millions of legal votes. You need to win on whole sale claims like hundreds of thousands of votes stolen. The voting machine accusation is a good path but so far no real evidence exists for it. Statistics or witnesses again are retail claims because they don't directly corroborate anything. If these machines were truly rigged then hard drives would show that. No amount of wiping them would hide it. You'd have to destroy them. Any effort to do that would be evidence but so far no evidence of any cover ups.

The way this plays out:
The appeal fails. SCOTUS won't cert because evidence hasn't been shown, so it gets sent back to district court. You *do* need to show a district court evidence to get an injunction (i.e., a court order requiring something). Prepping witnesses, preparing evidence, all takes time. Weeks. By this time Gore v. Bush was far along and prepped properly, with solid evidence of vote fishing by Gore and hanging chads as proof that Bush's victory may not be sound.

So while this is going down, the safe harbor date arrives. The electors are certified, and that's it. It's over. The SCOTUS won't even review it in their regular meetings to see what cases to review and signaling no desire for emergency relief. So any filings will quietly be dismissed as moot. Because the SCOTUS really doesn't want to hand the Presidency to anyone if they can let the process stand.

It stops at 2) before it is even considered for cert. The SCOTUS play is simply childish thinking and oversimplification. It's not some nuclear option Trump can roll out.

The process is boring and will play out but Trump already lost this by having bad lawyers and simply failing to provide the courts with evidence.
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Not sure if you are being serious. Lynne Cheney campaigned for a non-profit in the Wyoming area and some of us volunteered.
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Campaign funding for pro-life and religious non-profit organizations.
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That was an outstandingly accurate and cogent analysis.

Are you a lawyer yourself perchance or just very good at paying attention?

Either way: well done.
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Paralegal!

I was passing this meme around for fun to my Republican buddies and saw the comment section. Thought I'd share since some people here clearly misunderstand the legal process. False hope does no one any good.
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Yeah, we know your and the far right-wing media and the President’s “strategy” is to kick and scream and blow smoke at every single little damn stage of the process.

And you’ve already telegraphed that you’re not going to accept Biden as a legitimately elected President even after the Electoral College meets, even after he’s inaugurated, even if no evidence ever emerges to back up Giuliani’s wild systemic fraud allegations.

The Election’s over. We know who the winner is.

Change my mind.

Till then, much ado about nothing.
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The media calls elections. What would you rather they do?

Sit on their hands while state & local officials are reporting results to them and say “I dunno man, we don’t know anything at this point and I guess we’ll never know the true winner until the Electoral College meets in 6 weeks”?

That’s not how covering elections has ever worked.

Up until now, every losing presidential candidate has conceded within 24 hours of the calling of an apparent winner.

And no, 2000 isn’t an exception to that, since the early erroneous calls of Florida were quickly corrected into “too close to call” territory, a status where FL remained for the next few weeks.

There was no apparent winner of 2000 for weeks. Unlike 2016 and unlike 2020.

You’re backing a defeated President who has broken with every past precedent and has carried this anti-democratic charade way too far.

You’re no traditionalist, you’re a right-wing insurrectionist.
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If you still aren’t accepting the results of the election that was called 2 weeks ago, is it too soon to call you an AlwaysTrumper?

Asking for a friend

Maybe I should give you until Inauguration Day before I start labeling you a fascist/monarchist.

After all: Gore didn’t concede in 2000 until X date weeks after the election and yadda yadda yadda.

Difference being that 2000 was literally a razor-thin election, closest ever in our history and the closest we’re ever likely to have.

I sure hope so.

I’ll be damned if our country ever again has as close of an election as 2000 in this tremendously polarized environment. It could rip us apart as a country literally, particularly if anyone like Trump is involved as a candidate.
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www.foxnews.com/politics/dershowitz-trump-election-legal-fight-sunday-morning-futures

The video from Trump advocate and Trump supporter Alan Dershowitz. He spells it out. Trump simply won't win this in the court.

Best chance is for a military coup or paramilitary action by all those who voted for him. If they engaged in violent revolution and Trump stood behind them with the military, there isn't much the rest of the nation could do. Lincoln did this during the last civil war and we are technically in one now.

Not saying we should engage in insurrection or sedition. But it's a real possibility the way people feel these days and Trump's supporter are heavily armed, passionate, and willing. Hold on to horse, this ride is going to get bumpy.
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No one is making you read any of that. So don't.

I use Lexus nexus and court transcripts. Everything I shared here is directly from courtrooms and publicly accessible. Maybe the law is boring and yes redundant but that's the process we are stuck with for better or worse.

When there is no evidence there is a lack of standing.

There's nothing to be gained by introducing evidence this late in the process. So either it doesn't exist or they haven't found anything tangible or relevant.

The only media I shared was a non-partisan take from Alan Dershowitz and I doubt you know something he doesn't.
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We already did see. There simply isn't enough time to prep and cert the cases with the safe harbor deadline quickly approaching. There is no mechanism for emergency relief by the Supreme Court. The President has dismissed Powell and signaled that he is moving his focus from a failed strategy in the courts to hope that the state legislatures, starting with MI and then PA, will completely bypass the popular vote and appoint electors in an extra-constitutional effort outside the scope of the constitution.

Many of us work remotely and discuss the legal shop talk on discord. I wasn't discussing politics. The legal decisions I referred to are publicly available from courthouse websites if you don't trust the media.

Like it or not, the President no longer as a path in the courts.
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Re: “Sydney Powell is not dismissed”

Care to explain?
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I agree the risk of Civil War is higher now than it’s ever been, given extreme hyperpartisanship, geographical polarization, and a desperate departing commander-in-chief who has no loyalty to anyone but himself and is facing endless civil and possibly criminal investigations for the rest of his life after he leaves office.

Righties sure do claim to be patriotic and loyal to America but the problem is their definition of “real America” is pretty well defined to exclude the other half.

I hope it’s all just talk from the most radical Righties, but, it could happen.

“Stand back and stand by” indeed.
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Many Americans who voted for Trump, I'd say most of them, really do think Trump will manage to pull this off and remain in office. Trump lost weeks ago but to watch OAN or Newsmax you would think this is a game that is tied and in overtime. I shudder to think what will happen when it is clear that Trump lost.

Already there is talk of truckers blocking highway and pockets of armed insurrection akin to the Columbine shootings. Hoping cooler heads will prevail.
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Color me surprised if any of these cases end up at the Supreme Court. This isn’t the 2000 election, where less than 1,000 votes in a single state separated the winner from the loser. There isn’t enough of a there there.

Color me even more surprised if any suit that somehow ends up at SCOTUS goes Trump’s way. Turns out lifetime judicial appointees have less rank partisan loyalty to those that nominated them than you might think.

See: Any number of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh decisions against the Trump Administration over the past couple years.

And that’s by design! Lifetime appointments are intended to help insulate judges from political pressure.

So, for example — speaking totally hypothetically — a defeated President unhappy with the way the citizens voted has pretty much no leverage to unduly influence a SCOTUS justice.

For those in the back, that’s called separation of powers

Isn’t the system of government bequeathed by our Founders great?

But as far as whether SCOTUS intervenes at all: we shall see Mr. Timber

We shall see!
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It won't.
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While we’re making bold predictions, here is a rough schematic of what I predict happens to Trump going forward

The arrow also happens to indicate where your head is currently at

V apropos
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What you don't know is that they just decided that conservative judges are going to be over the district courts and little known laws allow us to go directly to them with our claims and they can pass it to the SCOTUS where it will be decided, directly bypassing liberal judges along the way.
GAME OVER!
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It may surprise you to learn that “conservative judge” doesn’t mean “judge who rubber-stamps any claim in the universe brought by Trump”

Have you even read any Gorsuch or Kavanaugh opinions from the last couple years bruh?

I’ve already posted additional evidence of this that you must have skipped over

Here it is again

Republican judge!
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If Trump fails to hold onto the office he will likely be prosecuted.
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Eyyyyyy

Have you even spun the wheel yet tho
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To the extent the GOP has turned into a lunatic fringe party dedicated to maximal obstruction of any agenda originating from a politician with a (D) behind their name, hostility can be presumed.

And if you want to be a conspiracist about this election for the next 4-8 years or the rest of your life, rather than allow the possibility that Trump was a flagrant failure and fraud and repulsed 78+ million Americans, the most to ever vote against a sitting President in American history by a long shot, good luck and godspeed.

We’re entitled to mock your persistence in that every step of the way.

Whenever you uncover the massive fraud that Giuliani & Co. have failed to present to courtrooms across America, let me know.

And if you have it right now, submit it direct to Giuliani before it’s too late!
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I call the GOP a “lunatic fringe party” because they’ve become fundamentally opposed to governing, period. And they’ve aided and abetted more Trumpian corruption and abuse of power over the past 4 years than I care to stomach.

If some of the adults in the GOP room are now (finally) calling upon Trump to acknowledge the results of the election that was called 2 weeks ago, then they pass the test (barely) of not being out-and-out fascists.

A test which both you and Trump are failing right now.

However, one can still be a lunatic wingnut in my book while stopping short of literally setting fire to the furniture of American democracy and taking glee as it burns.

Make sense?
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Who can say who’s more delusional

Only time
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That's right!
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Well aren’t you just the fountain of homespun wisdom you fail to follow yourself

About how many people did you claim to speak for just now?

And about how many tens of millions of other Americans with differing opinions than yourself did you blithely dismiss with your glib assertion that “if Trump wins, great”?

A few

Commitment to democracy much?

Tl;dr you are not only a hypocrite, you’re a fascist

(Speaking only for myself of course)
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Eyyyyyy — gettin’ close! And that’s not counting my first account!

I will spare you the necessity of ranting about how ImgFlip points don’t really matter, etc. etc. (even though I’ve previously seen you whine about how long it’s taken you to get where you are now), unless you’d like to rehash all that again of course, in which case feel free

I’m just having a little bit of fun

Lighten up before you die of a heart attack

That is all
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This spells it out. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dershowitz-trump-election-legal-fight-sunday-morning-futures
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Some of you reach out to me on discord. Thank you!

I accepted your invites. Check your spam folders if you don't see an activation key. https://disboard.org/servers/tag/law
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Tis fun! Good night everyone. Join us on discord. https://disboard.org/servers/tag/law
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Supreme Court denied cert!!

Victory for democracy! Woo! Hoo!!
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