Would ya' like a little more morals to go with your coffee?..

First off, adoption is a better option than killing. Second, killing an innocent baby isn't okay just because there is a chance it might die. That would mean I could go into a hospital and kill a bunch of kids with cancer because they'll just suffer and probably die anyway. See how that would be really horrible?

You seem to be ignoring a pretty obvious distinction; the kids in the hospital are not growing inside your body.

Does it matter the location of a child? Killing is killing. Just because the one life relies on the other life doesn't mean it's not just as valuable as any other.

Yes, if the location is INSIDE another person's body, it does matter. You are treating the Mother as nothing more than a host.

The mother delivers the baby. The baby is made from both the mother and the father. Therefore it is not "part of her body."

The mother and baby are not the same person. You would do well to learn that.

I didn't say that they were the same person.

The fetus is not an independent person; you would do well to learn that.

A newborn child isn't an independent person. They depend on the mother still.

No they don't, anyone can look after a newborn baby.

Nailed it.

"And what about the choice of the unborn child...?"

You are more than welcome to ask it. ;)

Right?

/sarcasm

Babies can live sooner and sooner outside of the mother's body as technology improves. So I guess you think technology determines life and it doesn't hold inherent value?

Independent life holds inherent value.

You sound like you think the life of the fetus takes precedence over the life of the woman.

People on life support are not being supported by the bodies of other people.

All humans' lives hold equal inherent value. Whether it be a baby or adult.

I agree.

Who said I said someone was saying that?

You were implying that I was implying that the lives of people who are dependent on external support hold no value.

Well there you go. Killing the baby is not okay.

Of course killing babies is not okay, that's why infanticide is illegal.

It's not the woman's body. It's her child's.

And where is the child's body?...

Inside his/her mother.

Exactly. It doesn't make sense to discuss it as though they are independent of each other. Anything that concerns the body of the fetus concerns the body of the Mother.

Which still makes it murder to abort, and doesn't change the fact that they're separate persons.

You just agreed that the fetus is inside the Mother; they are not separate.

Did you nap during Biology class?

So what?

Are you suggesting that it's possible to have a conversation with the fetus about what it wants?

Oh, you're asking this again. You're like one of those dolls that has like, 8 phrases and repeats one when someone pulls a string.

The other people summed it up nicely.

Nice deflection.

Tell me or show me of someone who did that.

I certainly haven't.

So life does not matter to you? It is a very sad thing for a woman to be raped, but it does not justify a baby being torn to pieces, alive.

Ask yourself this: If the mother cannot legally kill her rapist, then why should she be able to kill her unborn baby, who is the most innocent of all?

That's weird, you go from: "The baby doesn't matter, kill it." to "they were ready to welcome their bundle of joy into the world." HMMMMMMMM. Contradiction much?

"a mother doesn’t carry a baby, then suddenly decide she doesn’t want it, there is a reason."
Whether or not she did, there is no real reason why she should have her baby torn to pieces.

It’s not like the baby is being like “oh boy i can’t wait to go be alive yippee kay yay!!! oh what’s this? oh no i’m being ‘torn to pieces’ so sad alexa play despacito”

I don't understand. Please format your sentence better so I can understand.

Right? Late stage abortions are rare and only done for medical reasons. They know this but they continue to spread lies anyway to make it sound worse.

THANK YOU!!! 👏👏👏👏

Conservatives: always spreading misinformation and propaganda.

"but it does not justify a baby being torn to pieces, alive."

Late stage abortions ONLY happen if there is a serious threat to either the life of the Mother or the life of the fetus. The fetus is given anaesthetic. It is not how elective abortions happen, the majority of which are in the first few weeks before the fetus has developed and involve taking two pills. The op seems unaware that lots of people still get pregnant whilst using contraception.

No, they don't. You can get an abortion at any stage, in almost all 50 States.

1. If there is a threat to the life of a mother: You can perform a C-section.

2. If there is a threat to the life of the baby, then you don't tear it to pieces alive, you (again, the easiest way is to) C-section.

No, it is not. Nor does that matter. That ideology says that "as long as you can't feel pain, I can kill you." That doesn't make any sense. That means that I would be able to stab you with painkillers, and cut your arm off and let you bleed to death. NOPE.

"It is not how elective abortions happen, the majority of which are in the first few weeks before the fetus has developed and involve taking two pills."

-That is a complete smokescreen. Before the fetus has developed to what? The fetus should not be killed because you have an unspecific, undefined system of value.

Technically, the teen is not as developed as the 20-year-old (or adult), nor the 20-year-old as developed as the 40-year-old (middle-aged adult). What is the difference between a fetus, who is coming out of the womb, and a baby, which is only different in title?

The "two pills" starve the baby to death, and end up giving the woman extreme pains, barfing, etc (basically a period every day, for two or three months. Many women die, and if not, have to pooh out the baby parts. You saying: "Just take two pills" is a faulty representation of the truth.

Not really. If you use a condom, then you will most likely not get pregnant. Even if you do, just because you don't want a baby does not mean you should be able to kill it.

Compare this idea: If your mother or father does not want you, should they be able to kill you?

My mother and others i know had a c-section. One was the mother to a dead child because the baby had died in the womb. Please just be a little compassionate for the mother.

? What does this have to do with abortion?

C-sections don't always work, but whether it does or not makes no difference to the case. Sacrificing your child (literally) to the "god" or self-preservation, "free will", career well being is wrong.

Your comment literally had “get a c section” in it. Just show some compassion. Please. You dont control women and what they do with their bodies.

Hahaha. :-l

I am showing compassion! I hate rape! Very, very much. >:(

And no, the baby is not the mother, nor is the mother of the baby. Therefore, the "mothers body" is not the baby's body. Abortion kills babies, that is not right.

Only a very small fraction of abortions are because of rape, and EVERY SINGLE PROPOSED PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION PROVIDES EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE VICTIMS! RAPE IS NOT A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT AGAINST PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION!

could you please elaborate on what you mean by "exceptions?" abortions for victems are still evil, the baby obviously have any control over that. that's not what you meant, right?

Each proposed pro-life legislation contains exceptions allowing rape victims to get an abortion. I don't agree with it - a baby shouldn't be murdered for his/her father's crime - but it's dishonest of pro-choicers to use rape as an argument the way they do.

Birth complications are among the exceptions in ALL pro-life legislation. NOT an argument against pro-life legislation.

IT DOESNT MATTER. IT IS THE WOMANS BODY AND SHE CHOOSES WHAT SHE DOES WITH IT.

Nope, it's the child's body. If she doesn't want him/her, tough. Adopt out.

Who is Clumpy?

???

Republicans: ugh just adopt out

Also republicans: GAY PEOPLE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO ADOPT

there are already thousands of children suffering in orphanages. be a little compassionate for the baby, its either a painless death or who knows how many years of suffering.

We should murder people who have a small chance of suffering?

No, we should take children out of their misery if the mother knows she wont be able to support the child, especially if she learns early. The child will feel nothing.

A perfect demonstration of how depraved the abortion crowd's beliefs really are.

what? would you prefer the baby to be sad and unloved it’s whole life? or worse be left on the street to die anyway?

"We should commit infanticide if we think there's a chance the baby might have a tough life" - you.

infanticide is when you are killing an already born child. abortion is when you are “killing” cells.

she chose to lose her virgininty. she chose not to wear protection. she chose not to have her tubes removed beforehand. she chose not to take birth control. she's already made enough choices. now it's the child's turn.

She didnt choose to be raped/sexually assaulted. She didnt choose a complication in the birth. She chose to have sex, but if she doesn’t want the baby, she doesn’t need the baby. The child doesn’t choose to be born.

you keep going back to the same "assult" arguement, which has already been addressed. same with complications.

"the child doesn’t choose to be born??" i've heard plenty of dumb arguements in my time, but this one takes the prize!

baby's body, baby's choice

So you think the baby can just be like “oh hey, sorry can i be born?”

can a man in a coma just be like "can you not pull the plug?"

"baby's body, baby's choice"

So the fetus takes precedence over the woman?

Yes.

That says everything about your attitude to women and is exactly why it's such good news Biden got in.

Tut, tut, tut. Are you always this bad at drawing conclusions and making arguments?
Again, IT'S NOT THE WOMAN'S BODY! This isn't a matter of opinion. Murder is murder no matter how you try to spin it.

What is not the woman's body? The fetus?
That's pretty obvious, the issue is that it's IN the woman's body; you understand that, right?

LOL, your libtard conclusions are hilarious.
Signed, a die-hard egalitarian and feminist.

You are categorically not a feminist if you believe you should get a say over what happens to women's bodies, which you clearly do.

You seem to think that using disability as an insult makes me look bad rather than you. Smh