Using Joe's teleprompter

Well I’m sure if you don’t count the deaths for people who had conditions that sped up the process, flu deaths would be much lower too. If that’s what happens with Covid, it’s common sense the same happens with the flu.

Even if you count only 9,000 deaths from Covid, that’s still 0.1% of people catching it dying. Of course then you would have to lower the flu number too. Since 1/26th of the people who died from Covid didn’t have any other conditions, let’s say the same for the flu. We get 0.0038% death rate, which again makes you 26 times more likely to die from the coronavirus. This is all what would mathematically happen, maybe it would be a little different in real life, but this is a base for what would most likely happen. If you start telling me that science lies, this is math we’re talking about.

that's speculation, not evidence

I put a little more math down below. Remember math probably isn’t going to give us an exact answer, but it’ll be somewhat close.

Ironically, the reported deaths are probably an underestimate. Your arithmetic is fine, but a lot of people here are trying to argue that many of the reported deaths are actually death's by other things such as heart attacks, etc, and I see no evidence for that. Also, say someone did die of a heart attack because they had covid, and would not have died of a heart attack if they didn't get covid, how would that be reported or measured?

Here’s a CDC a article. If you scroll down to what they say about deaths, what you said about flu deaths being underestimated is true, but it also says that some of the flu deaths weren’t primarily caused by the flu, which is the same for coronavirus. Now the amount of people who died by the flu probably isn’t off by 26 times since that would be ridiculous. If someone who died because they had both Covid and a heart attack, but wouldn’t have died if they didn’t have Covid, they should be counted as a Covid death.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

Thanks!

*9,000 died

I don't believe that, but please cite your sources.

CDC

Right now the CDC has American covid deaths at 207,882
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

nevermind they said only 6% were actual covid deaths...

I don't see where it says that anywhere on the CDC site.

I'll correct you both. Original estimate was 2.2 million would die. So, the president saved between 2 million and 2.19 million depending on which of your numbers we use. Either way, we've done a fantastic job as a country. Plus, Trump managed to keep the economy strong and minimize panic (hoarding, gun buying, unnecessarily long lock-downs, etc.) With good therapeutics and vaccines in trial, we're just about done with this thing.

That number isn't very good when you compare to other Western Democracies. (deaths per capita) (The numbers in the last column in the link below are deaths per population normalized as per one million)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

It's better than Spain and Belgium, but it's a little worse than UK, and worse than even Italy. It's way worse than places like Germany and Canada.

I hope the vaccines will help, but I fear that they are a ways off. We are unfortunately a long way from being done with this thing. I'm mentally done with it, but nothing we can do about it, wishful thinking won't make it go away.

Add these factors to your regression analysis when attempting to compare countries:

Population density
% Black population (higher mortality)
Average age
Island (or nearly an island)
Cultural norms of conformity
Strong states vs. Federal govt.
Vitamin D exposure
When they got first infection
How open the borders
How seniors are cared for
Sex rates and number of partners
Fake news effect
Privacy...

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