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Compliance is dangerous | CDC STUDY FINDS OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE GETTING CORONAVIRUS WORE MASKS | image tagged in memes,peter parker cry,cat doctor | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
7,003 views 53 upvotes Made by WiseCracker 4 years ago in politics
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8 ups, 4y,
1 reply
good job on the meme! Crazy eh? first cdc says NO masks, then cdc says Mandate masks, and now says masks don't appear to work......I think they were just having fun playing with the karens!
1 up, 4y,
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The meme is hoax.Read the source.

Facemasks worked everytime since XIX century until now agains't airborne infections. No scientist denied it. Some of these people CDC and WHO said first that they might be unnecessary for the population. While on China all people were wearing them.

https://oecotextiles.blog/2020/07/15/why-your-choice-of-fabric-for-facemasks-makes-a-difference/
2 ups, 4y,
3 replies
Hey trashcan…what’s wrong with you?
Here are your wacko statements:

• The meme is hoax -- THIS MEME STATES FACTS THAT THE CDC JUST RELEASED….HOW CAN YOU STATE THE MEME IS A HOAX? IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE CDC CONTACT THEM, DON’T SPEW YOUR BS AT THE IMGFLIP COMMUNITY AND MICHAELRICHEY’S MEME!

• Facemasks worked everytime since XIX century –
o FROM WHAT I FOUND THE FACE MASK FIRST USED DURING SURGERY IN 1897…JUST BECAUSE MASKS ARE USED DOESN’T MEAN MASKS WORK!
o 17 MILLION TO 100 MILLION PEOPLE DIED DURING THE 1918 SPANISH FLU AND THEY WORE MASKS….YEAH, THAT WORKED OUT REALLYYYY WELL FOR THEM!

• No scientist denied it -- WHAT ARE YOU RETARDED? THAT’S WHAT THIS MEME’S ABOUT, THE CDC SCIENTISTS STATING THAT MASKS DON’T WORK!
• Some CDC and WHO said masks might be unnecessary – WRONG!
o DR. ROBERT REDFIELD, DIRECTOR OF THE CDC- THERE'S "NO ROLE FOR THESE MASKS IN THE COMMUNITY."
o FEB. 17: FAUCI ANNOUNCES THAT THE RISK OF CORONAVIRUS INFECTION IN THE U.S. IS "MINISCULE," ALSO TOLD THE PAPER THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T WEAR MASKS

• While on China all people were wearing them – OMG, YOU’RE USING CHINA TO VALIDATE YOUR BS?

• You list a textile manufacturer as your source – HOW ABOUT LISTING A SCIENTIST, OR SCIENCE GROUP, AS YOUR SOURCE AND NOT A FABRIC MANUFACTURER THAT IS PROBABLY TRYING TO SELL THEIR PRODUCT!
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
This Morgan Freeman | THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU DESTROY A LEFTIE | image tagged in this morgan freeman | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Sad thing is, he will completely ignore your post and vote for a pedophile out of hate.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
You think I'm something leftie. That proves tou are the one who is guided by irrational prejudices and does not look at objective data
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
then stop acting like a leftie...simple!
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Imagine thinking wearing a mask is an intrinsic quality of being left wing lmao

Just pulled a ben shapiro
1 up, 4y
I believe the context of this meme is that people that wear also get CODVID. However I am basing my observation from your behavior in the form you are arguing the meme, the way you present your case, not because you choose to wear a mask or not.
1 up, 4y
You Are Correct Sir! this leftie won't directly answer what I stated while I directly responded it its statements....very sad indeed!
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Another source:
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Trashcan…If you give a link on masks it should be on masks that the public uses….’come on man!’ Most people do not use N95 masks, respirators or surgical masks - and have been told not to use them!

Did YOU actual ‘read’ your link 'info'?
• This is not a scientific study per se but more of a data amalgamation and meta-analysis
• Clearly states that robust trials needed to verify this analysis (or not!)
• Masks used in this analysis are N95, respirators and disposable surgical masks (12–16-layer)
• Lists 1m (or more) social distancing

This study suggests 3feet (1m) of social distancing (or more)…. so are you stating that we only need 1 meter, or 3 feet, of social distancing and not 6 feet (2m)?

I’m waiting for you to tell me why the JAMA & AAPS mask studies/statements are incorrect……
0 ups, 4y
From that source says:

"Both N95 and surgical masks have a stronger association with protection compared with single-layer masks. Eye protection might also add substantial protection."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342198360_Association_of_country-wide_coronavirus_mortality_with_demographics_testing_lockdowns_and_public_wearing_of_masks_Update_June_15_2020

https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf

This is old paper about facemask with other virus, but is also interesting
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article

https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=27691&publicId=395

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/21/880832213/yes-wearing-masks-helps-heres-why?t=1602703935996

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172200.htm

http://ftp.iza.org/dp13319.pdf

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic-review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05/core-reader

It's not like I only put links in favor of wearing masks, I didn't find any that are against it.

Only a fanatic denier can continue to deny the precautionary principle when all the evidence shows the effectiveness of the use of masks
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
A hoax can be a sentence taken out of context, or a forced conclusion based on a certain premise, and hoaxes are generally a mess of garbage to try to justify a wrong position around a topic. That wrong position is making people go without masks when they should be wearing them.

That is what I am trying to explain. But whoever believes in hoaxes thinks that he is a standard bearer of them. When all you have done is accept the first information that a few brothers-in-law on the internet have told you.

I don't have all the time in the world to spend messing up every bit of what you're saying. It's a waste of time. Look for it on the internet, it explains perfectly why everything agains't social usage of facemask is a hoax.
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
MORE TRASHCAN CRAP:

• I don't have all the time in the world to spend messing up every bit of what you're saying – BWHAHAHAHAHA !!! BECAUSE YOU CAN’T .. I'VE GIVEN YOU THE JAMA & AAPS… SHOW ME WHY THERE ARE NOT CORRECT!

• It's a waste of time -- OF COURSE IT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN’T REFUTE ANY OF IT!

• Look for it on the internet -- I'VE GIVEN YOU THE JAMA & AAPS… SHOW ME WHY THERE ARE NOT CORRECT!

• social usage of facemask – SOCIAL USAGE? ARE YOU STATING THAT MASKS ARE SYMBOLIC ONLY?
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
When you start behaving like a person instead of a pig, maybe I will listen to your requests.
1 up, 4y,
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• listing facts, listing your crazy statements and why they are crazy....makes me a pig BWhahahah!
• you might 'listen' to my requests....hearing voices again?
• not once have you responded to the info/links/facts that I provided
• stop blaming everyone/thing in the world for your screw ups....I and others here have tried to help you with facts but you are either too insecure or stupid to look at them....
• it is official trashcan: URADUMBASS!
0 ups, 4y
Are you on drugs?
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
It is more difficult to destroy each hoax than just to go directly to the sources and read what is really known on the subject.
1 up, 4y,
3 replies
[image deleted]TrashCan is stubbornly stupid, dishonest, and a stranger to reason…..

YUUUP, it is official, TrashCan URADUMBASS!

I've inserted the ‘THE 8 RULES OF DEALING WITH DUMB PEOPLE’:

• It is unknown at this point if your are #1 or #2 (both are bad)
• I tried #3 & #4 with you
• You clearly exercised #5 & #6
• I now invoke rule #7 & #8 in dealing with you!

In case you don’t know how to open the insert provided (entirely possible for you) I’ve also put the 8 Rules below, that way even you can't miss them!

THE 8 RULES OF DEALING WITH DUMB PEOPLE:
1. Understand that some people are mentally disabled – they don’t have a choice about being stupid so please treat them with kindness
2. Some dumb people are just dumbasses – they are capable of learning but refuse to, do NOT treat them with kindness it just makes them worse
3. Be knowledgeable – dumb people lack knowledge so have your facts together [see rule 5 exception]
4. Ask them for facts – dumb people have a lot of ridiculous ideas that they can't back up; you can sometimes get them to stop by demanding facts that support their bs [see rule 5 exception]
5. Understand that dumb people usually can’t learn – they are often closed minded and facts are their ‘kryptonite’; if you bring up facts they will just start yelling babble to escape
6. Stupid people can be very insecure - so they can’t listen to facts that can threaten their beliefs
7. Avoid controversial topics - If you have to be around dumb people avoid anything that can upset them and make them angry
8. Do not debate with dumbasses - There's absolutely no point in engaging in a debate with a dumb person because they don’t know how to debate/learn; just act like they aren’t there and do not respond to any of their comments

Instead of dealing with dumbasses you might consider raising your standards and get smarter acquaintances that you can have actual discussions with!
0 ups, 4y
You are just stupid, the most dangerous person to society, because you are the type of person who negates caution principle on February, and still today, October, when every scientist support facemast, still negate to wear facemask.

Thats why I'm responding here. It's not for you. If for everyone that could die for your brain disability to accept the truth. Somepeople just beleive what others says, people like you, and may risk their life just for a f**king cheap facemask.

That's why you are, in fact, not only stupid, also a bastard anti mask.
0 ups, 4y
That guide to dealing with people like you may be useful, but is even worse that your allergia to meta analysis.

I couldn't even find any of your "fact" saying that mask don't work.

Try again later.
0 ups, 4y
There is no go to unbrained skepticism about not using facemask in the middle of an airborne pandemic.
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4 ups, 4y
This whole thing is the scam of a lifetime to test the conditioning of the sheep.
A dry run for the New World Order and worldwide oppression. Thank God for America and Trump.
5 ups, 4y,
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I made this point very early that people who are untrained in the use of masks. Will in fact spread the virus more than someone who does not wear mask but practises distancing, washing hands and common sense hygiene.
The information was there to read, available from the very beginning that unless you strictly adhered to procedures with protective gear you stood a better chance of contracting any prevalent pathogen in any given environment.
After all a person who places a mask upon their face without having washed hands prior to the installation of mask has already at this point bought to their face anything that they have picked up on their hands.
Then, say it doesn't or hasn't entered their system whilst putting on the mask, the pathogen is still now on their face and closer to an ideal entry point into them.
Then the next steps to infection can be seen with the Pelosi's and Karens who will adjust the mask, remove the mask, drop it below their nose or leave it hanging under their chins etc
At every single time they touch their face and that mask they are providing opportunity to bring pathogens into their system.
In addition, the very few people (nurses in fact) I have ever seen who practice the washing of hands before placing a mask will ever re-sanitize or wash their hands in some way prior to retouching mask and face. And so even professionals who should know best about how to control infection risk still don't practice the correct procedure. So how do we expect people who haven't had any need to wear masks at any other time prior to know or to adhere correctly to methods of control.

All you muppets out there who still want to wear your masks, please continue.
But stop telling me and the millions who wish not to wear one that our desire not to wear one is going to kill you.

I might add my wife who has worn masks from the moment she left home and during her entire time at work/shops etc and back to home contracted Corona, when I not wearing have not. I will also add that she had symptoms which would be described as very mild and not even at the level equal to a flu or a cold.
Hahaha you masked schmucks.
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4 ups, 4y
Bravo. Encore!
1 up, 4y
Another hoax.

The mask is not mainly for protect the wearer. If for protect the public enviroment of being high contaminated. But also gives some individual protection.

Most infections are produced in pre symptomatic stages.

You can't infect yourself by touching your mask if the virus didn't reach to the mask in first instance. But you shouldn't touch your mask. Or use an hydrophobic and electrostatic mask.
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
Do you work from home? Maybe your wife got coronavirus simply because she was exposed to more people. Also, the fact that her symptoms were mild could be because the mask reduced her exposure and she received a smaller viral load than she otherwise would have.

We are still learning what masks do and don't do, but if the best thing masks do is to prevent an infected person - who could also be asymptomatic - from spreading the virus - in other words if wearing a mask protects others more than the wearer, isn't that a good thing? Why wouldn't we want that?

Cheers
4 ups, 4y
3 ups, 4y,
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That's not how viruses work. And we do know how masks work, that's how we know only n99 masks used properly stop viruses. Anything less is only going to block spit. This is purely an exercise in compliance.
0 ups, 4y
That's wrong. All types of mask give some protection.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know
2 ups, 4y
maybe cause about 999.999 percent of people wear masks
2 ups, 4y
Well dammit that ruins the narrative, but according to the leftists here I should laugh at them and tell them they are stupid and deserve it. They must have not used their “magic mask” properly.
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3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
7 ups, 4y,
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4 ups, 4y
you are responsible for your own actions. no shoes, no shirt, no pants, no mask? no service.
6 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Blame it on the CDC, it's their report.
7 ups, 4y,
2 replies
The CDC report that the meme referenced. Did you think I made it up? Are you too lazy to do any research?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf
0 ups, 4y
please note: this report has been corrected
This means the report was fake news and they deleted it
3 ups, 4y,
3 replies
You'll need to read the whole report. If the implication is that masks work, then you should see a greater number of unmasked people getting sick. That isn't the case. In fact, the numbers in the report indicate that masked people are getting sick at nearly 3x the rate of those who remained unmasked.

"71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public."

It isn't a misrepresentation to quote the report....it's a quote.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
You are right, but they will defend the masks mandate to the death. Because they like the tyranny
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Except he’s wrong
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Nope you are wrong
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Care to explain how?
0 ups, 4y
I already made responses to him, which he masterfully dodged and pivoted from. You can read them.
0 ups, 4y
Do you? You claimed he is wrong
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
About materiaIs of facemask, I have been searching and I suggest you stick to this info about facemask:

https://oecotextiles.blog/2020/07/15/why-your-choice-of-fabric-for-facemasks-makes-a-difference/

Please read it carefully. You may save your life or others with this info.
3 ups, 4y,
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I'm not interested in it personally. I caught it and beat it already.

Getting the masses to follow any kind of "mandate" is laughable, especially when many states have declared mask offenses non-crimes. It's basically voluntary, and people are going to wear whatever nonsense mask they think is fashionable or fits their budget (which is where the t-shirt masks came from).

Remember, this virus has a survival rate higher than the annual flu. The only people afraid of it are the people who are afraid of everything.

Enjoy your fear. Fear is not a virtue.
0 ups, 4y
Covid-19 wouldn't be a problem if people weren't be easy infected by hoaxes.

All facemask give more protection than nothing. Even T-shirt facemask are useful to minimize spread and lower viral load in and out.

But all the rest measures are important.

The topic I'm talking, you are spreading hoaxes like "this virus has higher survival rate than flu" with the rest of your arguments, and this is a problem.

Nobody talked about fear, this sound exactly like the people who spread these hoaxes on internet.
2 ups, 4y
This is also interesting:
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/07/coronavirus-covid-19-are-cloth-face-masks-likely-to-provide-protection-against-covid-19_0.pdf
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
I'm not cherry picking anything - I have left nothing out with regard to the mask statistic in the report. The portion I quoted is the entire statistic, which, if you understand the term "cherry pick" invalidates your accusation.

I haven't spoken down anything in the report - but you have. You're willing to accept the entire report, except the portion I'm highlighting.

Something else you're failing to recognize in the report - it very clearly states: "Community and close contact exposures contribute to the spread of COVID-19." Conspicuously absent from the report is any mention of airborne spread. It isn't there.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Your response is all over the place yet you never addressed my points. Interesting.

First, you are selectively taking a quote without context because it suits your narrative. I've already addressed the mask quote and how you leave out the fact that people who were covid positive were twice as likely to visit restaurants and bars where a) have poor ventilation (one of the special circumstances where airborne transmission can occur) and b) where mask wearing is obviously low. Sounds like cherry picking to me. You basically just ignored my entire response and insisted that you're right.

Second, I accept what the authors say, not what your conclusion which is based on MISINTERPRETING what the authors say. And the authors CLEARLY state that masks are an effective measure to mitigate the transmission of the virus. You clearly have a deep aversion to actually addressing the points I make so I'm quoting the authors for a SECOND time. They state: "To help slow the spread of SARS-CoV-2, precautions should be implemented to stay home once exposed to someone with COVID-19, in addition to adhering to recommendations to wash hands often, WEAR MASKS, and social distance."

Your last part of your response is a complete pivot from the topic at hand. I never brought up airborne spread before so stop committing a red herring.
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
If airborne spread isn't an issue, why are masks necessary?

I can tell that logic isn't your strong suit.

Thanks for playing.
0 ups, 4y
Holy shit you have no idea what you're talking about. And surprise surprise, you still haven't addressed any of my points.

Coronavirus primarily travels through DROPLETS, not airborne. And masks help reduce the amount of virus the DROPLETS gets into your body. And masks also work by preventing DROPLETS from your face from getting into the air outside. So even if airborne transmission is rare, DROPLET transmission is common, and masks protect against that.

For someone who claims to be in Mensa, you sure are a f**king moron.
0 ups, 4y
Drink the bleach
1 up, 4y
Once exposed is the keyword right?
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