Fill the Seat!

This has come back to bite them, too funny.

Hmmm, post-mortem burn. Should we call that a cremation?

https://i.imgflip.com/4g1rvt.jpg

Mind blown, brain expanded.

so is trump so when he dies don't get mad or kill people. also she was a great clump of cells.

is a fetus a person it was no brain it is human but at that point it is not sentient.

If sentience is the line, then you should probably know that science states children are able to feel as early as 8-12 weeks in the womb. Also, people have recovered from comas that robbed them temporarily of their sentience. So by your definition, you only count the 200k murders each year, not the whole 300k, right. But hey, keep believing children getting killed in the womb puts you on the right side of history.

BTW, since you think she is a great clump of cells. You should also know that she believed in eugenics, so I hope you are white and benefit from her views, or at least we can be happy no more idiots like her filled the court and brought their views to the forefront.

On diversity, she said the court would only start working once it is all women. What a life! What a woman! The only thing she did right was praise Brett Kavanaugh.

then 10 weeks seems fair. can I have the study. then they are developed human not a embryo or fetus. where's the 300k I doubt there are 100k abortions each year. I don't care if I'm on the right side of history try to paint me as the villain I wont care.

I don't have to agree with her on everything to think she did good things. what she did for woman's rights is amazing. what does it matter so I'm white.

the court should be equally split half left half right half male half female.

so what makes him great hmmm?

Sure! Here in fact are a couple:

Possible as early as 7 weeks:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/

12-18 weeks:
https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-science-of-fetal-pain/

And as early as 12 weeks:
https://jme.bmj.com/content/46/1/3?fbclid=IwAR3tNKjSbgsYXaEkz52t8qMgsbcZDyZmpQbAJyUMSR8oczq-SND_gzRhBsg#block-system-main

I should point out that the last two were done by scientists from both sides of the isle (specifically, pro-choice and pro-life).

As for the 300k number, sorry to tell you this but that was a lowball number. Here is the number reported by a left leaning source for fun:

862k for 2017:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/number-abortions-u-s-drops-lowest-they-became-legal-nationwide-n1055726

"I don't care if I'm on the right side of history try to paint me as the villain I wont care."
Honestly, what a shame to hear, and also a bit hypocritical. You rage in all your comments of the evil of others, when you refuse to examine yourself for similar wrongdoings. I sincerely hope this conviction does not affect your personal relationships, as they always tend to.

"what she did for women's rights is amazing. what does it matter so I'm white."
Can you be more specific? What did she do for women's rights? Last time I checked, she talked a big game but actually accomplished little. Also, by the end of the statement, are you trying to say that you agree with her stance on eugenics?

"the court should be equally split half left half right half male half female."
This is literally the definition of sexism. Picking someone for the job by the plumbing and not the experience or qualifications.

"so what makes him great hmmm?"
Well, since we are talking about women's rights and equality, he is the only justice with an overwhelming staff that is female and has given to causes that provide opportunities for women in law. RGB cannot boast this on her resume.

Let me know what you think.

thanks for the sources the second two seem most legit.

she was a big name for being a female judge she was a leader head which sometimes is more important then doing things.

no eugenics is awful I don't believe in it her stance on that is not valid.

that wont be a now or soon thing. just get the most qualified women.

that's it what was he said done or what effect has he made.

"thanks for the sources the second two seem most legit."
I should point out that the first one is the most thorough one since it approached it from the neuroscience of the matter and not just simply with what is observable. But neither here nor there. Taking the science of the last two alone into account, can I assume then that you do not agree with the mainstream leftist views that want abortions on demand at any point and who are okay with ending a child's life who survives the procedure?

"she was a big name for being a female judge she was a leader head which sometimes is more important then doing things."
Literally and categorically false. Doing is infinitely more important then just saying or being a "figurehead." Simple anecdote: if half the governors in America said they are against racism but do nothing about it, while the other half say nothing but actively fight to quell it, which half is better off? The answer is obvious and simple. So, no, again, the fact that you can google search her accomplishments and all her top hits are simply things she has said and anti-trump tweets that she has made that are not fitting the decorum of her office is actually incredibly sad. If anything, she has set women back as this would be the exact type of ammo a misogynist would need to prove his point.

"no eugenics is awful I don't believe in it her stance on that is not valid."
I am glad to hear that we agree on her poor opinion in this matter.

"that wont be a now or soon thing. just get the most qualified women."
Pushing the anecdote further. Which states will do better? The ones who choose the most qualified people, or the one that chooses the most qualified women for governor? Easy and simple. Not the one that chooses only women. Also, this view is still incredibly sexist as the only thing that is being taken into account is one chromosome difference.

"that's it what was he said done or what effect has he made."
I don't understand how you first championed RGB under the misinformed idea that she did things for women's rights and equality, then I share with you one thing BK has done for that same cause and it is somehow nothing. Isn't something better than nothing? Yes, it is. But hey, if you want more, he has made a career challenging the EPA and the CFPB on some very high profile cases where they were grossly abusing others. In all his cases, he has been a staunch defender of the constitution, which is arguably his best trait.

I guess if you can put a child into foster care after then that's the best option there are still problems with it though.

there should not be trash talk in politics but Trumps not immune from that. she fought for the ERA which is a good thing.

the most qualified is a good thing but men in the past have treated women like they were inferior and did not let them into positions of power and those that made it there had to work harder then men in the same position so we should always be aware of that.

he did do good things there. but he has also done some scummy things like making it so Obama could not appoint a justice and now when RBG died he is already trying to replace her. when its only a few months when with Obama it was almost a year before the election.

"I guess if you can put a child into foster care after then that's the best option there are still problems with it though."
Personal anecdote: My wife and I have been on a waitlist for an adoption for 4 years. There are so many options not being explored and so much shit bureaucracy that keeps this stuff from happening. I think the true answer to this whole pro-life debate is to actually educate kids who aren't ready to face the consequences of their decisions and to actually cut half the bullshit that keep capable parents from getting unwanted children.

"there should not be trash talk in politics but Trumps not immune from that. she fought for the ERA which is a good thing."
I disagree. I think our leaders should be held to a higher standard. This includes both Trump and RGB setting a super poor precedent before the 2016 election. Her for literally talking trash about a potential candidate and him for responding to it.

As for the ERA thing, have to disagree again. The ERA in its original intent served its purpose. The name has been hijacked ever since to push fringe and extreme policies under the name of "Equal Rights." RGB was the worst sitting SC Justice to ever abuse this practice.

"the most qualified is a good thing but men in the past have treated women like they were inferior and did not let them into positions of power and those that made it there had to work harder then men in the same position so we should always be aware of that."
Being aware is one thing but swinging the pendulum to the complete opposite end doesn't push us forward, but backwards. With that being said, of the last 5 years, every study has actually debunked the idea that women are at a disadvantage. They are more likely to now get highered with slightly worse credentials because they are women. This is a loss to true progress.

"he did do good things there. but he has also done some scummy things like making it so Obama could not appoint a justice and now when RBG died he is already trying to replace her. when its only a few months when with Obama it was almost a year before the election."
You do know that Brett Kavanaugh is not responsible for those decisions, right? So if that is all the "scum" you have on em, I suggest you do some more digging as it actually sounds like you have nothing on him right now.

foster care is way to hard to get adopted and we need to fix that. yes that is good we should teach kids not young kids but like high school.

they should that trash talk that is not a good thing about her.

the ERA is meant to make sure that everyone is equal under the law and no one can be treated as less then another. I'm pretty sure its always been that way.

same can be said if that happens it happened in the past tribes used to be run by a matriarch.

he is still with it he might not be the main but he still thinks its a good idea even when one of the last things she said is that she would not be replaced before the election.

"he said stand back stand by that is a command not a denouncement not to mention he told them before to 'make sure that the votes are fair' which is not a thing a normal civilian is allowed to do."
Again, he already agreed to denouncing violence right before this statement. To assume his remark about standing back is somehow a whistle to actually be violent when he just denounced the violence is beyond absurd. He even asked for the name to condemn. So that is the context. Give me a name to condemn, and he did.

Also, he is allowed to make that statement, especially since there are multiple instances just in the last month of voter fraud. Where does it say he can't say anything? Go ahead, enlighten me.

"many of the people arrested are innocent some aren't but most are mainly peaceful. ok well I have mostly watched in Seattle and Portland so maybe the leaders elsewhere have told people to be violent but I doubt that."
In all fairness, very few figures on the left have actually called for violence. The problem is the rest silent while the right has been condemning it. This is not a good look.

As far as peaceful, while it may quite frankly be the case that many are peaceful, the problem is the ones that are literally violent and causing destruction is what the left is trying to frame as peaceful. The fact that CNN had a kayron with the words "Fiery protest but mostly peaceful" while there was literally a burning dealership in the background tells you all you need to know. So yes, are some peaceful, sure. The left needs to stop calling the violent ones peaceful though.

"Antifa in decentralized that means there is not an origination."
In the same thread that you would tell me that most destruction is caused by outsiders coming in to protest, are you really going to then suggest that there is no organization? Really? Are a bunch of people who ascribe to Antifa through their social media or in interviews just coincidentally showing up at all the same protests that have many arrests and property damage. Really?

"Joe did not he should have but Trump told them what to do and be ready to do it."
Again, with no evidence. What did he tell them to do. Timestamp me the clip. Because everyone likes to "assume" what he said but he still did not actually say any of it. But sure, the candidate that did not condemn violence at all vs the one that did is somehow better?

you have forgotten that stand by which was right after which is get ready to do what I say stand back would be telling them to stop but then he said stand by so he did not denounce them he told them be ready and before that told them what to do.

I would say most are peaceful from watching the streams but yes the few that are violent should be denounced but from what I saw in Seattle they were when someone started throwing this they would tell them to stop or if they did not a few people would go over and grab whatever they were throwing.

you can describe your self as a white supremacist its like that but not a white supremacist. there is not origination to Antifa it is a loose group of people that do what they want.

no he did not but he also did not tell them what to do and that's what Trump did

"its not Trump Obama set that up and Trump befitted by it he has even started reversing that. there are tons of black people there maybe if you watched the streams you would see."
You have got to be smarter than this. This is not meant to be a dig, it is meant to convey that I think more highly of you. Obama set it up? Are you kidding me? The same Obama who told people on the campaigning trail for Hillary that Trump can't fix the economy or make it better. He literally said, "What is he going to do, wave a magic wand?" He said Trump could not add 500k jobs to the economy and people should just forget them because they are not coming back. Now after 1 million jobs were added to the economy in the first year, it is somehow Obama's doing? To add insult to injury, the jobs started coming as soon as he dismantled all of the Obama era economic policies and implemented his own, specifically, his own tax plan being one of the chief factors.

But I look forward to how you are going to explain that away. He literally ended everything Obama did and Obama said it can't be done, then all of a sudden when the good results come in, Obama says it can be done and it was thanks to him. Hahahaha, come one man! Show some critical thinking here.

anything at the start of one presidents campaign most effected by the president before them. same can be said for every other president. but look after that he changed stuff he has even started reversing how jobs people have. we have had one of the biggest job declines since the great depression I know that mainly because of covid but it would be better of he treated it like a real thing that has killed a lot of people and did something to stop it.

his tax plan only helps the all ready rich it sucks for poor people and most people are poor. it raises taxes on the poor and lowers them on the rich that is one of the worst things you can do with taxes.

"foster care is way to hard to get adopted and we need to fix that. yes that is good we should teach kids not young kids but like high school."
Agreed. In fact, I might argue earlier in Middle School is best (having worked with these age of students, the 8th grade is when boys "notice" their peers.

"they should that trash talk that is not a good thing about her."
And him. On this, again, we agree.

"the ERA is meant to make sure that everyone is equal under the law and no one can be treated as less then another. I'm pretty sure its always been that way."
The original law drafter by the Republicans was like that. It has not always been that way since. I mean, think about it from a reasoning point of view. If the original law made it so everyone cannot be discriminated against and we are all equal, wouldn't adding to it pervert the original intent? If you don't believe me, feel free to research what was in the Women's Equality Act (probably one of the most recent attempts to add to the ERA). Nothing to actually deal with women's equality. It was filled with progressive far left items.

"same can be said if that happens it happened in the past tribes used to be run by a matriarch."
But the litmus test still remains. Decadence only follows when the determination for leadership is their born physical traits, and not their actual ability for the role.

"he is still with it he might not be the main but he still thinks its a good idea even when one of the last things she said is that she would not be replaced before the election."
You do realize that what she wanted as a "dying wish" has no bearing on how the Senate and President should conduct themselves, constitutionally speaking. A dying wish is personal given to someone you trust. Honestly, RGB's granddaughter must be completely incompetent to think that sharing her dying wish with the man her grandmother trash talked all the time would listen. She should have just told her "I'll let him know, grandma" so she can die in peace and then be realistic.

then they over reached not much more to be said.

I think that it will go more to equality not have the pendulum swing but who knows.

its still basic respect that's important.

"The ERA should stay as it is until it is fully made a law."
It is actually already law, so not sure what you are looking for here.

"Trump had someone to replace her before she died he talked about replacing her I'm pretty certain that he wanted her dead but he is not going full Putin on it."
As does any president... It is their job.

But the whole "he wanted her dead," you are beyond delusioned if you think that is true. Just look at the history and current events. Despite RGB dragging the position of SCOTUS down by squabbling on twitter, Trump actually wished her a speedy recovery the previous time she almost died. Now you have Leftists coming out in droves wishing that not only Trump, but his whole family will die of coronavirus. Seriously?

You see, the general thing about the left and right is this: the left says nice things but behaves like degenerates. The right says dumb shit but behaves and acts on reasoning. Case in point is this contention you made. Trump has disagreed with RGB but never wished her anything but health and happiness. Michelle Obama said that "when they go low, we should go high," but then she literally turns around and blames everything from riots and looting on Trump. He is literally getting turned down left and right by Democratic governors on intervening. So much for going high I guess. Sounds nice though.

or accepted into law it is law but something weird is happening.

does that not sound like he is trying to sound he is better then he is.

I don't think that's fair in many cases the right and the left both say dumb stuff and do dumb stuff.

"lets just agree to disagree I have better things to do then argue with you over stupid stuff. This is going nowhere."
One, I don't have to agree with things that are not true or wrong.

Two, it is only going nowhere because you can't prove or back up any of your points. Again, not meant to be a dig even though it sounds like it. Here is to hoping that you see something wrong with the general trend of: I ask for evidence and you say things like "I thought there was an FBI report but I couldn't find it."

And finally, if you feel that way, no worries man. Best of luck.

anyway thanks for being respectful that's better then most people I have talked to.

"or accepted into law it is law but something weird is happening."
Again, you are going to have to be more clear because again, it is law. Changing it would roll back the progress.

"does that not sound like he is trying to sound he is better then he is."
Whether he sounds better or not is of little concern to me, the point simply is that the claim that he wanted RGB dead is quite frankly a sick claim with no evidence at all.

"I don't think that's fair in many cases the right and the left both say dumb stuff and do dumb stuff."
True. Both have said dumb things. But it doesn't take much to prove that one side is really crossing the line and the other's greatest bombshells only work when taken out of context.

Take the actual looting and destruction. One side has denounced the violence, the other has been quiet or straight ignored it. Trump was asked during the debate if he will denounce the violence and the white supremicists. He did. He then asked Joe Biden to denounce Antifa. Joe dodged the question.

first he commanded then not denounced them he told them stand by.

he said Antifa is a idea I guess he also did not denounce it.

those mostly have been outside people trying to destroy things but none of the leaders have said anything like that

anything can look bad out of context if you do it right neither the right or left are immune and both sides look bad when taken out of context.

"obviously not if black people were doing better they would not be protesting. Yes Joe has said some racist things but Trump has said more."
Just because people are protesting doesn't mean it isn't true. You are literally ignoring facts to make your case. Facts like the lowest unemployment rate and the largest median average income jump for the past two decades. A bunch of white people and a few black people protesting doesn't change that.

"The only time I can think of was in Charlottesville that was the main white supremacist gathering in a large number. but you do realize that Antifa has been taken control of by white supremacists and they have been framing Antifa for alot of thing."
"maybe some but most Antifa just believe in anti-fascism and just protest with the BLM people."
My point was that you can't name a single instance that white supremacists outpace the arrests and the damage of Antifa, and you turned to Charlottesville, where antifa was literally involved with a race war with white supremacists and only one person was arrested.

And then you pivot to white supremacists took over Antifa? You are literally talking out of the air. Literally prove right now that white supremacists have taken over. You can't.

But in the same breath that you blame white supremacists taking over, you then pivot to how most Antifa believe in anti-fascism. Are you saying that white supremacists are anti-fascist? Furthermore, I can make the logical conclusion that you agree with white supremacists since you agree with Antifa. I mean, they did take over, according to you, so the logic is sound, assuming you didn't lie about white supremacists taking over.

Antifa's leaders have literally called for anarchy and destruction of the system. So maybe you should do some research before you try to argue because you are looking incredibly misinformed.

its not Trump Obama set that up and Trump befitted by it he has even started reversing that. there are tons of black people there maybe if you watched the streams you would see.

I don't think they have taken over but they are trying and they are framing Antifa for things. I thought there was an FBI report but I couldn't find it if I do I will share it. no white supremacist are awful and one of the most fascists people I can think of. I should have separated them so that was more clear.

That's because our system is failing it should be reformed not overthrown but you cant blame them for coming to that conclusion.

only one was arrested but I never said that the police response to Charlottesville was fair. so give them resistance white supremacist's can not go unchecked.

"then they over reached not much more to be said."
Agreed.

"I think that it will go more to equality not have the pendulum swing but who knows."
The original ERA is the goal, adding to it makes in iniquitous. Ever since the ERA, no case has been lost at the Supreme Court level when a law or action discriminated based on race, religion, sex, orientation, etc. So the only way to make the pendulum swing back to inequality is to add to a law that already made it illegal.

"its still basic respect that's important."
Except it has nothing to do with respect. The laws of this country were not drafted based on interpersonal wishes. What is important is the fact that in 2018, we let the country decide who should replace her should anything happen and it did. RGB's wish has no bearing on what the people have already voted to have happen.

And even if you would make the basic respect argument, respect is a two way street. It is frankly the coup de grace of comedy to think that a woman with an incredibly disrespectful demeanor towards someone would have her dying wish fulfilled by the man she disrespected.

The ERA should stay as it is until it is fully made a law.

Trump had someone to replace her before she died he talked about replacing her I'm pretty certain that he wanted her dead but he is not going full Putin on it.

"if he has denounced them so many times where expect he did count the kkk as a terrorist group but that's more to get the black vote."
And yet blacks have done better under his administration in every demographic for the past 30 years. How is that pandering? Or should we look to Joe as an example? Whose administration actually saw blacks go backwards, both economically and in incarceration rates, and then he had the gall to say "you ain't black" if you don't vote for me. Is that somehow not pandering to incredible levels in comparison?

"ah but white supremacists do the same thing and they are decentralized Antifa is just being an anti-fascist it is not anything past that and the fact the you cant see that even when it has been explained to you is surprising."
First, show me even one objective number that shows the same amount of arrests and property damage in comparison. Good luck.

Two, they aren't even anti-fascist. They literally go around destroying and intimidating people who do not agree. That is literally what fascists do and have done to get their way. So no wonder you you are surprised. The truth is always harder to see when you tell yourself lies for a long time.

obviously not if black people were doing better they would not be protesting. Yes Joe has said some racist things but Trump has said more.

The only time I can think of was in Charlottesville that was the main white supremacist gathering in a large number. but you do realize that Antifa has been taken control of by white supremacists and they have been framing Antifa for alot of thing.

maybe some but most Antifa just believe in anti-fascism and just protest with the BLM people.

"anything at the start of one presidents campaign most effected by the president before them. same can be said for every other president. but look after that he changed stuff he has even started reversing how jobs people have. we have had one of the biggest job declines since the great depression I know that mainly because of covid but it would be better of he treated it like a real thing that has killed a lot of people and did something to stop it."
Again, I will ask you. How can it be Obama's achievement when Obama said the economy can not do that, and Trump repealed all of Obama's policies that deal with the economy? Even if you ignore Trump dismantling Obama's policies and enacting his own, then is Obama so dumb that he didn't think his economy could bounce back? After he said, those jobs are never coming back. So how do you seriously think Obama did it?

As for job declines. The strongest job declines only happened in states with crazy Democratic leadership. The mayor of NY imposed even greater restrictions this past week that is estimated to lose 500k jobs. The economy was so strong before the pandemic that Democratic leaders were hoping for a market crash. Bill Maur said he could care less how many people suffer as long as Trump can't use his strong economy on the reelection campaign. So, why is it that you think Trump's economy is bad when your party's leadership was praying for it to go bad?

"his tax plan only helps the all ready rich it sucks for poor people and most people are poor. it raises taxes on the poor and lowers them on the rich that is one of the worst things you can do with taxes."
You have clearly never looked at his tax plan. I challenge you to prove to me how it benefits the rich and not the poor. Good luck. I should point out that this is the third time I am asking you to prove something with some evidence. Here is to hoping you can actually give me some evidence this time.

lets just agree to disagree I have better things to do then argue with you over stupid stuff. This is going nowhere.

Why is the left so fixated on Trump constantly condemning white supremacists when his administration actually came down hard on them. Why when Obama sides with anti-Semitic groups and Trump sided with Israel is there a big push from the left that he is pro-Nazi?

And a loose group? Loose groups do not organize through social media. Loose groups don't show up in force to different cities and do the same things. Chant the same racist slogans and use the same tactics. Are you really making the case that it is all such dumb luck and coincidence that all this is happening in tandem in Democratic strongholds in such solidarity? You can't be this enslaved by your ideology that truth is this foreign to you.

if he has denounced them so many times where expect he did count the kkk as a terrorist group but that's more to get the black vote.

ah but white supremacists do the same thing and they are decentralized Antifa is just being an anti-fascist it is not anything past that and the fact the you cant see that even when it has been explained to you is surprising.

"first he commanded then not denounced them he told them stand by."
He was specifically asked to denounce violence he said "sure." And then he said "give me a name." Which they did and he told them to stand back. If you somehow in that context, people think that isn't denouncing, again, you are looking for an excuse to think this guy is racist at this point. To be frank, the "Proud Boys" are a joke compared to the work antifa is doing. The proud boys numbers in arrests is dwarfed by antifa arrests and they to this day do not have property damage in their name compared to Antifa who is in the millions. Furthermore, Trump's administration is the first administration to actually classify the KKK as domestic terrorists... That means even Biden's admin did nothing. How can you still make a case this guy is not condemning the violence?

"he said Antifa is a idea I guess he also did not denounce it."
Plain and simple, Joe is an idiot if he thinks it is just an idea. An idea doesn't get arrested in the thousands or cause property damage in the millions.

"those mostly have been outside people trying to destroy things but none of the leaders have said anything like that"
Outside people have been responsible for a lot of the damage, yes, but their leaders (Antifa and BLM) have actually called for violence.

"anything can look bad out of context if you do it right neither the right or left are immune and both sides look bad when taken out of context."
Absolutely true. So why push the narrative that Trump didn't condemn violence and Joe did, when in context, it is the opposite?

he said stand back stand by that is a command not a denouncement not to mention he told them before to "make sure that the votes are fair" which is not a thing a normal civilian is allowed to do.

many of the people arrested are innocent some aren't but most are mainly peaceful. ok well I have mostly watched in Seattle and Portland so maybe the leaders elsewhere have told people to be violent but I doubt that.

Antifa in decentralized that means there is not an origination.

Joe did not he should have but Trump told them what to do and be ready to do it.

"anyway thanks for being respectful that's better then most people I have talked to."
I sincerely appreciate you not making it about personal attacks so thanks to you too. Take care.

yep you to.

so your going to go after one thing then. that's for eventually after a long time its not going to happen soon. men and women will give different ideas that's why we need both.