Abortion is murder! Trump & Pence 2020!

Spare me your "all lives matter what about the babies" bullshit.

170,000+ Americans are dead, and y'all are "meh."

the second those babies are born, y'all are "those mothers are w**res. They should have thought about having a baby before we took away her access to birth control."

And helping feed those babies? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Spare us your bullshit.

So you'd rather they have their babies killed??? It's not the child's fault that it was incepted. Did you know that abortion clinics have found that during the "procedure," the fetus writhes and twitches in pain until it dies? Is that what is supposed to be "social justice???" It doesn't seem very just to me.

So? That still doesn't make it okay.

:P

You're essentially correct... except for not caring about the 170K dead Americans. That's a pretty irresponsible thing to say, imo.

I don't speak for republicans by any stretch, but I haven't heard them, as an official party position, call the women you say they said are w**res, w**res. There are likely plenty of individual republicans who have done that, and maybe even more who feel that way, but wouldn't say it. So if we were on Jeopardy, I think the judges would have to award you the points for that one.

Your point about birth control is extremely close to being accurate. The nuance you missed is that they just don't want the govt to pay for birth control. I think this is an example of a situation where they need to apply some common sense to achieve a practical result that would be acceptable to all involved... which they're not always willing to do.

Lastly, the point you make about their lack of concern for the child once it's born is spot on. No need to go the judges on that one.

You could have said all of that more nicely though... 👍

Well. Scroll through the top 5 pages of Politics stream.

Can you find 1 post about the deaths?

Just 1.

We've been losing a 9-11's worth of Americans every 3 days and... what?

Y'all are posting about how Trump is the bestest, Biden sniffs hair, and the poor babies!

Oh, and it's not "the government paying" for birth control. It was employers not having to pay for women to get birth control.

Men could still get it for their wives through employer insurance.

Good point. They literally don’t care about the 170k deaths because “the flu kills more people.” I wonder how long they’re going to be saying that.

No he couldnt

How do we have 170,000+ deaths from covid and China only has 4600+ deaths?

I have heard people say that hospitals are counting every death a covid death.
Most likely that is not entirely the case but I know it is happening sometimes.

I know some people who lost loved ones and the cause of death was listed as covid and it was from something else. I also know people who had a host of other problems like cancer on the brain as well as being positive for covid.

I'm not saying to go out and cough on people but don't you find these news reports a bit questionable to say the least?

You would need to ask China why they have such a low death count. I wasn't in that meeting.

No, I don't question it, because I spent some time looking into how the covid deaths are counted.

the final say on the covid death is the CDC.

Let's say that a hospital has 10 deaths that they code as a COVID. Except that one of them was accidentally coded that way and was a motorcycle accident. 2 of them were pnenumonia and 1 was a cancer patient.

So, the cdc would remove the motorcycle guy, because obvs. But the 2 pneumonia cases tested for covid. If they come up positive, then they're treated as a covid death because that's a contributing factor. Either it caused the pneumonia or they caught it after being treated for pneumonia. the cancer patient would require more information like how far along was their cancer?

Now, you're probably wondering "if the motorcycle guy is removed, why aren't the counts going down?"

Because the next batch of deaths that comes through wipes out the "gains" on the list. When you're adding 1,000 people every day, having 30 from yesterday removed from the list isn't statistically significant.

I am pretty sure it was the CDC who, in the beginning, said wearing masks don't help. I realize that the more time one has to study a new pathogen the more they will learn about it but is it too difficult for one to admit they don't know?

I get what you mean with the motorcycle accident. And it is possible that covid could cause pneumonia. But that only brings rise to more questions. I hear people test positive and never develop symptoms. And I also heard of people testing positive and running a 100+ fever for weeks. I don't remember the exact amount of days but it was a long time. How do they not have organ failure, brain shut down, or blood poisoning? I did not realize it was possible to run a fever for so long.
Is there any symptom covid doesn't cause? I also heard of someone testing positive and his only symptoms was a lack of taste. And that guy works with homeless people.

Does social distancing do any good at all? I made a meme about dust traveling across the ocean. And it is a legitimate question. As a farmer I have seen dust / dirt a lot. I have seen individual grains of dirt / dust before. I have felt it blow against me on windy days. If a dust storm can travel across an ocean, airborne, how can germs being much smaller and lighter not travel further than six feet?

Well the germs die.
Okay, then why bother cleaning surfaces or keeping six foot apart?

They live on surfaces.
Wait, what kills them? Is it the air or the time it takes to travel six feet? Because they are exposed to both air and time while on any normal surface?

The germs fall on the ground before reaching the person six foot away.
You mean to tell me dust which weighs much more than a single germ can travel across an ocean but a germ can't travel six feet?

And does wearing the mask help or not? Because if it helps then why stand six foot away unless said person is without a mask?
Is the six foot thing mainly to reduce public fear? Because it doesn't seem like it would make a dimes worth difference.
I am not trying to be sarcastic, all of this just isn't adding up.

I understand your questions.

Yes, there are people who are infected and show no symptoms. There are people who are severly impacted by this. And some who only have some or moderate symptoms. I personally know 2 people who were/are asymptomatic- they had 0 symptoms but their spouses were laid out by the virus.

Yes, the CDC and the WHO said that wearing masks wouldn't help at first. Then scientific evidence showed that masks did help, because covid isn't airborne but transmitted via water droplets. They followed solid science by taking a position based off of available evidence, and then when new evidence came to light, they changed their position because of facts.

Which is exactly what you want in a scientist. Yes, having all the right answers on day 1 would be nice, but it's not a realistic expectation.

Being outside helps a lot because the droplets are dispersed faster and better.

Yes, social distancing helps.

Yes, masks do work. Less about keeping you from getting it and more keeping you from giving it to others.

I have seen it effectively explained like this: Imagine that you are standing next to someone. Neither of you are wearing pants. he starts peeing. You are going to get pee on your leg.

Now imagine that you are 6 feet apart. Still no pants. He starts peeing again. You will likely get some pee on you. But not that much.

Now, imagine that you're 6 feet apart and just you are wearing pants. He is still peeing on everything. While your pants might get some pee on them, it likely won't soak through to your skin.

Now, you have fresh pants on. You're 6 feet apart. AND this time the Mad Pee-er has pants on as well. He starts peeing again. But this time, he only pees on himself because his pants stop it.

This is why it's important for everyone to wear a mask. Because YOU could be one of the people who is infected but shows no symptoms. We know now that people are infectious early and don't show symptoms for days or weeks.

We also know that being indoors in close contact with an infected person is the worst.

Just stay home.

If you have to go outside, wear a mask.

Wash your hands, a lot. For at least 20 seconds. With lots of soap.

I hope I was able to answer your questions in a way that was meaningful for you.

Waterborne might not be the correct term but I was wrong about covid being airborne. I assumed that all germs coughed out was airborne whether it be covid or any other coughing / sneezing sickness.

Yes that clears some things up. I am still not sure how china has such a lower death rate. And there are other methods of "handling" the pandemic that seem questionable.

I live in Kentucky and a few weeks or so ago there was restaurants complaining about having to shut down meanwhile there was a race that was to be coming through?

When was the US shut down? I have been trying to find the time frame but I can't find it.

Another issue was how the news in Kentucky was so down on churches. Regardless of how much precaution churches was taken they was largely getting pointed to as the cause of spreading the virus. A friend said the news showed an older woman saying how we are going to be shopping with those people who went to church. I guess she is fine shopping with people during a pandemic as long as no one has went to church.

Apparently tanning beds was essential during the shut down because a girl went missing then while going to a tanning bed.

They said it is unlikely you could get covid from restaurants. There has been nothing said on all these riots and protests contributing to the spread of the virus.

My sisters are going to be going back to college and there is a mandatory covid test requirement. They will also be checking their temperatures, everyday I think. I fail to see the usefulness of the covid test. Like the lady with JCPS said on the news, it creates a false sense of security. People will take the test, be negative, and could be exposed to it within the following hour. Unless people are being tested 24 7 I don't see how the test could be that useful.

Speaking of false sense of security. There has been much disregarding the Constitution with these "executive orders" by state governors. Mostly in regards to churches. I realize that sometimes precautions must be taken but telling people they can't worship and arresting people is crossing the line. I have been saying for the past few years that people would eagerly sacrifice freedom for a false sense of security but I did not imagine it being in the form of a pandemic. I thought it would be due to mass shootings. As a free people we have a responsibility to ensure freedom will be given to our posterity. Freedom should not be compromised for a little security.

you can't even vote for them idiot.

So?