They hate it when you point out hypocrisy

Ignores the right wing dictatorships in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Napoleonic France, Imperial Japan, and Francoist Spain

well yeah,thats kinda how goverments are supposed to improve a natoin. by putting good ideas into motoin

Mussolani was right-wing though

that doesn't even make sense

i would rather not join

Shouldn't you be purging yourself?

haha funny man

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Guns Save Lives... Masks Don't.
That Was Easy.

Hate to break it to you, but masks aren't used to kill people.

And I've never killed anyone with any of my guns. Enjoy your weakened immune system. Have a nice day.

First off, sorry I'm responding this late, I never use this site. Second off, I'm not assuming you're a murderer, but, others have certainly used guns to kill other people, including the police. Masks are an easy way, not to protect yourself, but to protect others, in that, protecting oneself. I couldn't even choke the air out of someone with a mask if I tried, because they are meant to breathe through. I'm not saying ban guns, but there should be much stricter regulations. This does not apply to masks, as there are no cases of masks killing someone, but there are of cases of not wearing a mask doing exactly that.

Ah yeah that's why I carry around a hex tool, 4 drywall screws, a toothbrush, some excess faucets

yeah, let me kill this person with this mask

So, which one of my guns have killed anyone?

Not talking about an egocentric perspective but rather a generalistic view. If you give everyone in the world a mask, they will not use it to kill someone, give every person on Earth a gun and you'll see how the killings rise up. It's not a gun problem per se, it's just that most people cannot be trusted with such a powerful weapon.

so, just like the generalization that mask mandates violate constitutional rights?

That's not exactly right though - it isn't a generalization to say that people's rights are being violated by mask mandates...

That's just illogical and retarded.

Kinda like you

You must be new here.....yup...20 points.

Congratulations on breaking the TOS !

Still no get why some people are "anti-mask" during a pandemia when they are neccesary for public health. I think they all are paid trolls.

90% of the people I see wearing masks have them below their nose - there's no point wearing a mask if you aren't going to wear it right. People are making masks out of the most ridiculous materials - they serve no purpose other than to check the "wearing a mask" box.

This is biosecurity theater - it's pretend biosecurity, make-believe. People spend more time touching their faces with masks on than they did without them. People are leaving used masks and gloves all over the place, like it's San Francisco and they're dropping used syringes and shitloafs on the street.

Everyone will get it eventually, it's inevitable, and it won't matter because the survival rate is so high.

Hysteria has destroyed the economy, businesses, and lives - for what, to make you feel safe from nothing at all.

Masks cannot prevent the spread of viruses.

Forced to respect public health, like when ppl are forced to not sell drugs

Face masks are useless to prevent the spread of viruses.

It’s not about the masks themselves it’s what they represent. Choice, the freedom to choose. If people want to wear masks or social distance or avoid work then that is there choice. We don’t have a problem with that.

But the minute you make it mandatory that takes away the freedom to choose. And who said the government has to give that freedom back?

it's about the freedom to choose right! so i bet you're pro choice when it comes to the subject of abortion to right??

There is public places when every citizen has to respect the rights of each other. This right is public health.

That's the same choice to go with a candle and burn some trees on the forest, is everyone is burning a tree, the risk of causing a fire that affect everyone is high.

If it's not possible to know who is infected, and 1 infected can infect an entire place, if everyone uses a mask, that means any possible infected will have a mask, which means he hardly could infect other people in public.

All with the mask will protect infected to infect other people in public places, and some surfaces.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200504-coronavirus-what-is-the-best-kind-of-face-mask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgoTMOgb3Ds
https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/808377
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-wear-face-masks-in-public-heres-what-the-research-shows
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200409105405.htm

Again I don’t care about wearing the masks. It’s about the right to choose. The second our right to choose it taken away we are no better than North Korea.

The right to choose can't violate right to public health. Without life you can't choose anything.

If the virus killed more than it does I would be of the same opinion. As it is the majority of the population have less than 1% of dying.

Not only does it kill, many people it survives from, it leaves it with serious sequelae in the lungs for the rest of its life. It is not convenient to make it easy for the virus, which can spread exponentially. If we all wear masks, the infected will not be able to spread the virus, and it will become extinct on its own.

That’s not how a virus works. As for the sequelae please send me an article.

I suffer seeing how ppl here is uninformated and promoting "anti-mask" movements, like some ppl did in the XIX century with influenza.

There is severe sequelae, depending of many factors. It's not something clear. But there are some texts about it already.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30222-8/fulltext

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-10/coronavirus-infection-can-do-lasting-damage-to-the-heart-liver

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-recovered-patients-have-partially-reduced-lung-function/a-52859671

If anything you only read the titles of the articles you sent and not the articles themselves.

As for my response all of those are direct quotes from the articles you sent. The second one didn’t work.

3 strikes you are out means 3 bad articles=fake news and fear mongering

As for the masks I don’t care if you wear a mask but don’t push your fears on others. And I’m going to be peer pressured into wearing one by people calling me a murderer.

Basic mask doesn't not protect you, your mask protect others from you. That's what you don't understand.

I don't care that some democrats support something which is correct.

It's not like you own and carry a gun. It's like everyone carry a gun, and shoot everywhere randomly where they go walking in public places, most have fake ammo, but there are some with real ammo.

Every not real ammo injured will make shoot real ammo, during at least 2 weeks or more.

Some people injured will die in the process.

The mask for everyone is the best and easy method to stop, and more important, PREVENT it, before it goes worse and worse.

Just because virus is invisible is NOT excuse to ignore it.

I do understand that and it’s unnecessary we don’t do the same for any other disease

But the evidence proves the opposite.

Public zones general mask usage prevent the virus penetrate and if it is already there, lower infection rate enormously.

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v1

Its not anti-mask. I am concerned about people throwing away the right to choose.

1st article direct quote
At present, the long-term pulmonary consequences of COVID-19 remains speculative and should not be assumed without appropriate prospective study.

2nd Article
The page may no longer exist or may have moved to another web address.

3rd Article
A small study of 12 patients discharged from hospital showed that two or three had reduced lung function. However, it is too early to confirm any long-term effects.

3 strikes you're out. All it is, is fear mongering not based on actual facts.

I don't think I understand your response. But I Found another link with some info about it:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19#Respiratory-infections-can-damage-lungs

You can compare the public mask order with speed limit in roads. These limits are based in public health, the difference is one is temporal situation because a pandemic. If it's not law enforced, the many people could not go outside his home safely. If u not law enforce limit speed in roads, there would be more deaths on them, cause there are always people which does not respect others life.

More info about mask:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/wearing-face-mask-reduce-coronavirus-transmission-75-percent-study-shows

99% survival rate I’ll take my chances

Where in the universe is possible to get an information about mortality of covid-19 giving those numbers.

I see you are a troll.

1st off you comparison so guns made about 0 sense. As for it being invisible I never said anything about it being invisible.

So you want us to wear a mask for the rest of Humanities time on Earth to prevent the spread of disease? We have never had to in the past why is Coronavirus any different? I’ll tell you what is different is you people are scared. You and others like you are fear mongering and blowing the virus out of proportion. The world is not ending move on with your life.

The problem with your ignorance, it that not only may kill you and ur family, may kill other people which is doing the most to stop the virus spread. Carrying something cloth between your nose and mouth is not a sacrifice, is a must patriot duty.

For that reason there is a speed limit on roads, not mainly for save who is going fast, for save who is being carefully which may be impacted for someone going fast.

You talking about face mask, home made face mask too, like is something hard to use, a sacrifice to liberty... that's only trash speech. Did you see any problem with face mask in China, South Korea, India and Japan? No.

Breath inside 2 cape of cloth is better than in a respirator.

No, nobody is talking about using mask for the ethernity, just to stop THIS pandemic NOW, as FAST as possible, to put and end to the virus, which can be propagated exponentially, and after is finished, continue normal lives without many deaths that can be prevented.

BECAUSE there isn't any vaccine for it, mask and other measures are not perfect, but is the best thing we have actually with other measures like washing hads and social distancing. And they work for lower the infection rate (R) under 1. And extinguish the virus.

And it's better to kill the virus than get it and see what could do in all population, while is only affecting low percentaje of people, or be forced to get a new vaccine not enough tested for the employers being able to be accepted as workers on companies.

It's better kill the virus fast with coordinated social response, keep people all working if they can wear mask for their jobs.

I’m not a troll I only deal with facts

https://qxmd.com/calculate/calculator_731/covid-19-prognostic-tool

You might be surprised at what you find