The Movie "1984" Now Playing In 2020

The *movie* 1984?

I'm personally quite partial to Diamond Dogs, Bowie's rock opera adaptation of 1984.

I was reading 1984 when a new song came on the radio about lovers meeting by the wall as guns shot above their heads. Yes, that song was Bowie's "Heroes," and though describing what he had seen in Berlin, it so totally fit.

The man is greatly missed.

Still shocked by it. R.I.P Bowie

He's an angel now.

He's an alligator....

A ttop ten of mine.

Yeah, except for what happened in the 80s after Scary Monsters,,,

Let's Dance was fine. Classic album.

Eww, no, just no.

Even Bowie spoke disparingingly of that period, and he did the Tin Man thing just to flush that made-for-MTV toxicity from his bowels - not that TM didn't sound too forced.

I didn't even listen to old Bowie since the 80s on account of that tripe till Outsider came out.

I literally have a wad of spit welling up in my mouth now. If there was ever artist that could represent the utter garbage that came out in music 1982, it's be a hard pick between Bowie and Phil Collins. Truly putrid. Yes, there was Madonna and Hair Bands, but they started out as sheer garbage.

I retreated to HC Punk and Kate Bush back then, listening to nothing else till Punk started sucking also come '85 and everyone who told me to shut off that shrieking woman off suddenly became Kate fans when Cloudbusting came out.

You get an upvote out of respect, my friend, but Let's Dance gave us Cat People with Giorgio Motherf**king Moroder, a better version of China Girl than Iggy Pop's, and Criminal World and thus your argument is invalid.

Despite being a fan of both Bowie and Orwell
I haven't seen Diamond Dogs and didn't know it was an adaptation of 1984, thanks.

The story is that Bowie couldn't get the rights from Orwell's widow; both the movies that had been done on 1984 were insultingly shit and she felt she owed it to the late great author to never license the story for anything ever again. But by the time Bowie got the bad news, he had already done a fair bit of work on the new songs.

So he scrapped the stage idea and just released it as a record.

He DID get a production of it on stage much later in life, but anything Bowie did after about 1984 (ironically) wasn't particularly well received outside of his most diehard fans.

Fair warning: in the 2000's, there was a heist movie called Diamond Dogs. It is completely unrelated in every way.

everything Bowie has ever made is genius

No! You can't be in music for that long without writing some duffies. Never Let Me Down was almost universally panned as an audio mid-life crisis - it's nobody's favorite! That doesn't make him any less of a genius - it happens to the best.

Well, he is speaking to a bunch of morons that probably would just eat the covers, so...

The rest of us think he did a great and succinct job of conveying his intended point.

Wow. There really are images of everything on the Internet...

I do find when people make comparisons to 1984 that they forget that the focus is on the party. The Proles are largely ignored and seemingly content with their bread and circuses.

It's one of those books where the most important points being made are in the long epic speeches that people on the Internet clearly haven't read.

Winston was brutally tortured, beaten, and traumatised but hey, keep saying how getting your post suspended from a Facebook group is right out of that book.

he keeps doing that, doesn't he??

Again?? Here is a reprint of yesterdays installment. You are so dense I have to give it another go at penetrating your incredibly thick cranium.
(ahem):
Take your head out of your ass and understand this...the steps that L.A. County, and other libtwat counties, cities, and states are taking right now are the kind of steps that lead to a f**king Kristalnacht and to Mauthsusen, Treblinka, Sachsenhausen, Dachau, Sobibor, Auschwitz, Bergen Belsen, Majdenek, Nordhausen,Buna, Buchenwald, Flossenbürg, Chelmno, Plaszow, Ravensbruck, Stuthof, Gross-Rosen, etc, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc and nauseum.
Grow up

What. Absolute. Bullshit. The holocaust didn't start by the pandemic lockdown of 1918; it started with a bestselling book by a convicted revolutionary that said "put me in charge and I'll kill all the Jews".

Your perception of history is bogus and your perception of today is bogus.

Your.period.key.seems.to.be.stuck. again. You must have spilled some ejaculate in the keys, Jack.

Who said anything about the pandemic of 1918? It didn't start with Mein Kampf...it started when normal people lost their minds and traded their freedom for "security".
Just like you.

There's literally no other way to say this: yes, the holocaust started with Mein Kampf. You'd have to hate reading to not know that.

I bet they really regretted not just letting him into art school...

By all accounts, his platoon in World War 1 regretted that they didn't just kick his weird ass out then and there.

You act as if Hitler was the first and origianl jew-baiter.

Anti-semitism goes back a long way. He just used existing anti-semetic rancor to harness power.

Hitler, alone, could never have accomplished what he did with out a willing and participating backing of ordinary German citizens.

Have YOU read "Mein Kampf" or are you just regurgitating the obvious?

I have read it. Cover to cover. My head still hurts. Most of his followers never read the entire book, it is very difficult to get through. It is turgid and tedious, and that is why most people can't get through it.

Assuming you do not speak/read German which translation? Manheim, Murphy, or Ford?

Ralph Manheim 1971 reprint Houghton Mifflin Company Boston
the Sentry Edition 13

That is the best one, honestly. Yes, Hitler is a run-on sentence brain fart.

The "best" being relative...
He was great orator, but a lousy writer. Nazi's were great at two to three sentencesof propaganda rhetoric.
Today, we call them "ad-men'' and the politicians pay them well

That makes me think of someone else...also thinks he's charismatic, draws big crowds and claims that something has to be done about specific cultural groups in society, can't remember the name...

PT Barnum?

"PT Barnum?"

The person I'm thinking of is more of a clown than a showman.

I also have a 1935 edition in hardback signed by Hitler in German Gothic Script.
I am a collector, not a Nazi.
I hate Nazis

Welcome to Planet 1984.
Next stop, the Nazi Party was a wing of the DNC (never mind they were the conservative party at the time) and were Communist.

I know, right?