So much for the #MeToo movement

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Cool to see my template catching on, like what you did with it

The flattery by imitation is returned

Well I would have used the other sleep template but I thought using language wouldn’t do well

hahaha yep glad to see people recognize the parallels here

Enjoy my highly derivative contribution to the memeing community

Bill Clinton actually hanging out with a convicted pedophile at a mansion known for underage sex parties: crickets

Joe Biden caught on video fondling a child: crickets

Donald Trump accused without proof: wailing and gnashing of teeth

Leftie double standard.

Just like the meme suggests double standards exist if you are a Democrat or a Republican

Being in the same room with a pedophile doesn’t make you one.

Epstein was a blackmailer, he blackmailed powerful people. Epstein provided services for those powerful people. People Epstein associated with and were photographed with were involved with Epstein for that reason. We could possibly agree on one point. Epstein is dead because of it.

I do agree with you on that. He was very visible with important people so he could use it as leverage should the need arise. I’m also convinced that he’s dead for that very reason, because some of those important people couldn’t afford for him to talk.

How about that ? I 100 percent agree with you. Solidarity

Agreed. There is always common ground.

He was also a huge Democrat donor. Like Harvey Weinstein.

Again, I don’t think Epstein had any real friends. I think he had associates who could be blackmailed into silence. Maybe Trump went to his island and partook of what Epstein had going on, maybe not. There is no proof and without proof he is presumed innocent. But we do know that Bill made several trips and there is proof of that.

As usual ...

Donald Trump on a hot mike bragging about sexually assaulting women: CRICKETS.

Donald Trump sued in a court of law along with Epstein for raping a girl at the age of 13: CRICKETS.
http://files.courthousenews.com/2016/09/30/Joan%20Doe%20%20Exhibit.pdf

This is an actual example of a Republican pointing a finger and having 3 pointing back at him.

Donald Trump on a hot mic bragging about how golddiggers let you have sex with them.

FTFY

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Oh God I forgot about that guy

Well of course it depends!

[image deleted] Stop whining. More Trumptard refusal to face responsibility. Trump deflowered 13-year-olds. Biden didn't.

Haha typical leftist hypocrite.

And let's not forget about how Trump likes to walk in on the Miss Teen USA contestants backstage while they're naked and changing their clothes....

Uh-huh: y'all Trump supporters are in a great position to ask for this

Well?

As for me, I welcome under-oath Senate testimony from every accuser of Trump and Biden, as well as both candidates themselves. That's the only way to sensibly sort this out.

Bringing Tara Reade, and only Tara Reade, in to testify on the Senate floor would be a propaganda coup for the GOP.

Biden should do the right thing and pay her off.

The accusers of Trump already had their trial. There is no point in bringing them back just because Biden is now the one accused. Stop beating a dead horse.

He'll beat that dead horse to smithereens. Even if the actual accusers told him to shut up.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped

Oh so your standard is to ignore accusations and after a certain amount of time has passed, declare them all a "dead horse"

Okay

Not the standard I'd go with personally, but I'm willing to try that with Biden

Oh, it hasn't died, it's just entered a new phase

One that is less willing to chuck Democrats overboard until some Republican heads roll first

Which changed when they ALL OF A SUDDEN knew it was bullshit

#MeToo Democrats prematurely defenestrated Franken over a whole lot of nothing: Just this rotten-looking photo that he took in his former career as a comic, basically, along with some anonymous low-level accusations.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

There was a lot of soul-searching after that and a realization that: (1) Investigations should occur first, and (2) #MeToo is not a suicide pact for Democrats and Democrats only.

So the movement hasn't died, in my opinion. It's evolved.

If #MeToo is now a movement that would support a full investigation, including calling all accusers and both Trump and Biden themselves, to the Senate floor to answer all these allegations under oath, then it's a movement I can support.

If it's not, then I'll just continue to call for that myself.

Sure why not?

We've only heard from Stormy Daniels. And the girl who was 13 when Trump raped her got so many death threats she dropped her case.

Thanks for bringing that up. Here was her affidavit from the lawsuit. A third-party witness signed her own affidavit in support of the claims as well.

It is common knowledge now that Jeffrey Epstein got up to this behavior. Would anyone here put it past Trump?

We know of two women who tried to sue Trump that received death threats: Stormy and this woman who was 13. Epstein was awaiting interrogation & a trial for child trafficking. Can you imagine the dirt he had on Trump? And if it was only dirt on Clinton, wouldn't Trump have done everything he could to protect Epstein to get that truth out? Their accusations against Hillary regarding Epstein are so transparent. They're trying to kick sand in our eyes so we won't see the truth about Trump but it's not working. The pics and video are out there.

Oh wait there is nothing to hear. Because I didn’t say anything about emails, Benghazi, or Uranium.

Oh, I wasn't aware Trump had addressed these accusations under oath

Can you link me a few deposition transcripts

I must have just missed them

I’m sorry but that’s because none of them pressed charges. They accused him on the media. They didn’t file police reports or take any other action to have him arrested. A few of them sued. But again not a trial because no police were involved.

There were 25 of them. Odds are someone would have told the cops. But alas not one did.

https://ocrsm.umd.edu/files/Why-Is-Sexual-Assault-Under-Reported.pdf

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rape-victims-report-police_n_57ad48c2e4b071840410b8d6

It'd be nice if all women rushed to the police within 5 minutes or 24 hours or 5 years of a traumatic sexual experience but reality does not always work like that

Hey look! A Kylie meme! Hey! Look! Another one!

Sue me ;)

Lol

I'm more worried he's gonna take down the entire internet!!!

I'm sorry to hear that, and good for your sister, but not everyone does. And using your own sister's story of abuse to minimize the suffering of victims who didn't make the same choice to to notify the authorities immediately isn't very cash money of you.

The fact that it can sometimes take years and years for victims to speak up, and for the law to hold perpetrators accountable for sexual assault, is apparent in the stories of abuse that have come out of organizations like the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts, let alone individual rapists such as Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, and the like.

Weinstein had over 100+ public accusations against him before he was finally found guilty and convicted in criminal court -- on just a couple counts, and just a couple months ago. There were a lot of hush-money payments and threats of violence and professional reprisal keeping his victims silent along the way.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/10/27/weinstein-scandal-complete-list-accusers/804663001/

Who knows how many Epstein abused before he was finally brought to "justice," though he killed himself (conspiracy theories notwithstanding) before he could be tried and convicted.

The wheels of justice turn only if we let them. In the meantime, we should withhold judgment and not prematurely grasp at exonerating explanations.

"cash money"?
As a so-called attornery, instead of cringing it, shouldn't you point out that a minor's age does not cancel the possibility of arrest for rape?

Epstein had been arrested and gone to court in Florida years ago.
You'd be surprised whose connections got him out of that one and landed the prosecuter in a cushy appointment in DC till the backlash forced his resignation when that story got exposed.

The same attorney who got Epstein off with a slap on the wrist all those years ago, is the same attorney who just represented Trump in the impeachment senate "trial." Coincidence??

Good luck with your “Wheels of Justice.” I have nothing else to say on the subject. You’ve heard my view and I’ve heard yours. Clearly we don’t agree and that’s not going to change.

Including her father, her former supervisor, a supervisor at the YWCA ... There's a list apparently. We can also review all her Putin loving Tweets where she trashes the US and drools over how great Putin is.

Wow.

Yeah I honestly haven't dug into her background that much, but safe to say based on that description if she were a Democrat accusing a Republican then she would have been laughed out of the building a long time ago.

All those Trump accusers made their case back then. It came to nothing. Where are they today? Oh, right, Trump successfully became prez.

Meanwhile, Reade, who actually reported it at the time, still hasn't been heard.

And I have no judgement on it, unlike you and Trump. But the left should be the first to want it illuminated, going by the left's 'lofty' standards they claim to have. #BelieveAllWoman

Reade reported harassment years ago, not rape, and that was only after getting fired days after being charged for check fraud. Being charged for check fraud would lose someone even a basic security clearance.

You landed on orange, yellow, and a bit of purple today

We don't have to

#MeToo Democrats can still vote for him anyway with a clean conscience because Trump is 20x worse

Don't like it, nominate Romney and you'll actually put #MeToo in a pickle

Hope this helps

Look man give it up. ACCUSATIONS DON’T MATTER.

Apparently I have to put that in all caps to get it through to you.

But side note I would prefer Romney over Trump any day.

HAHAHAHA He can vote for a guy that raped a few cause the other guy raped (to him) a few more with a clean conscious! Hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

See how at their hearts they are disgusting hypocrites? He just stated that he could vote for a guy that raped 5 women over a guy that raped 6 women WITH A CLEAR CONSCIOUS! Take that in. What a disgusting individual. A clean conscious!!!!! Unbelievable!!!!!!

Lol. First of all, no one’s accused Biden of rape.

Second: Are you voting for Trump in November? How do you manage that?

Each and every one of his accusers is lying and only Tara Reade is telling the truth?

No one accusing Biden of rape?! Give me a minute I’m dying right now! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You even mentioned Tara Reade in your post

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, as they say

100+ public allegations against Weinstein before he was finally criminally convicted just a couple months ago and even on just a couple counts.

It takes time for the wheels of justice to turn

GOOD ONE, KYLIE! You gave me a chuckle! Seriously! I know you think I'm mocking you , as you've never posted a humorous meme or comment but that's great. Finally progress. I'm proud.

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Check out this stream if you're interested in "political humor"

Not all of us equate that concept with misogynistic trash memes and relentless bloodthirsty griping at liberals

Damn, Kylie. An actual discussion with you would be interesting. I don't think you're stupid. But it's past the point where you won't be disingenuous. And I get we're on an anonymous website, we battle, but it's a shame.

Indeed it's a shame

lol, the problem with that line of reasoning is murder leaves behind tangible evidence: things like bodies that you don't typically find with sexual assault

Another opportunity to either choose between disbelieving in Killary conspiracies or else choosing to believe in them but with the catch that you must also believe in the Trump DOJ's wild incompetence in failing to unearth any evidence of them

I have no doubt Trump has assaulted someone. Just as I have no doubt Biden has assaulted someone. As for “Justice” that won’t come from any of those 25 women.

The operative word of rape is "intercourse." This is a kid's site and you're a smart individual: I don't have to explain to you what that means, but if you don't know what it is, you can look it up.

Biden has not been accused of "rape." Trump has.

No, you sick twisted deviant, the operative word is "forcing"

I think it’s funny. You think you are so smart with your graphs. But here’s the problem, you ignored everything I said and deflected it by ignoring it.

You’re good for a laugh KylieFan.

You’re good for a laugh indeed.

Yep, it's why he has less credibility than NotABigFan and other children on here. I've advised him not to be disingenuous but to no avail. He's probably posted your responses to his cowardly cringe stream, mocking you behind your back, like a teenage girl.

Facts he’ll probably make a graph out of me.

Oh yeah, lots of stuff from today's discussion is going to make the cringe stream: Most of it at you though.

You are the cringe stream. Come to life in the form of a humorless shill bot.

Oh that was a good one, Syd

Haha after setting the precedent for #BelieveAllWoman and whining about Trump for years, your hypocrisy is clear.

Rules for Radicals: Make your opponent live up to their own standards.

Whether that standard is to whine, deflect, and ignore all accusations (See: Kavanaugh, Trump, and their defenders), or else investigate all accusations to the nth-degree (as #MeToo would favor), just be consistent in your application of them to both candidates.

Personally, I'm in favor of a standard of 100% full disclosure: Bring every single accuser of every single candidate, and both candidates themselves, to the Senate floor and grill them all under oath so we can decide which accusations are credible and which ones aren't.

Safe to say that's not going to happen, but it's what needs to happen to provide American voters the information they need in order to choose their next President between two accused sex offenders.

Momentary reality check:

The congress has a slush fund used to pay off sexual assault accusers.

You may now return to normality.

Every organization of a certain size does. How about them Boy Scouts of America?

And to pay off other plaintiffs bringing claims of any nature

Welcome to reality

Do they have a secret (as much as it can be) slush fund? Do they deal with taxes? Hilarious that you equate a private company with the government. I thought you might see that as bipartisan, as Republicans benefited from the fund too but nope! Partisan shilling as always. No wonder you're such a downvoted figure of disgust here. I have a respect for anyone that contributes to our discussions, even those I disagree with and argue with. So I'm glad you're here. But it's tough to respect you because of your hyper partisanship and disingenuousness.

"As secret as it can be"?

Well: Not secret enough to have not hit the press or to be fact-checked by the good folks at Snopes. It's administered by the Office of Compliance established in 1995 and overseen by the House Administration and Senate Rules committees.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/congress-use-slush-fund-pay-17-million-women-sexually-harassed/

Your taxpayer dollars hard at work, folks!

Got a better idea? Call all accusers to the Senate floor and hold mini-trials every time a new congressperson is accused?

Well, in theory we could do that: it might cost taxpayers even more money, though. Hiring those white shoe D.C. defense firms gets expensive.

Deflection

I'd find it more surprising to learn that Congress *didn't* have a "slush fund," or what you might more charitably call: "Awards and Settlements, Office of Compliance."

Which happens to be what it's actually called!

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/congress-use-slush-fund-pay-17-million-women-sexually-harassed/

What would you prefer instead?

What it actually says:

"Although there is a U.S. Treasury fund devoted to paying settlements, it is not a 'slush fund' which implies it is secret and utilized for illicit purposes. The fund is administered by the Office of Compliance (OOC), which was established in 1995 with the Congressional Accountability Act and is used for the payment of awards and settlements. The OOC is overseen by the House Administration and Senate Rules committees.

"Unlike a 'slush fund' which would be off the books, the fund is a line item and every year its activity can be viewed by the public in Treasury reports — for example money laid out from the fund in Fiscal Year 2016 can be viewed here under 'Awards and Settlements, Office of Compliance.' In FY 2016 the fund paid out a total of $491,733.97."

If you want to hold everyone to the same standards then let Biden be charged.