Letting someone else make decisions for you

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I know many elderly repubs exist.. but I wonder how many of them agree with the anti-mask sentiment.

I am a republican, and I do not agree with the anti-mask sentiment.

Well congratulations.. you're a RINO.
*kidding of course*
:P

I have yet to wear a mask.

Ever since the stay at home order, I have yet to wear socks.

Yes, it is.

Explain how it isn't. You're doing something you would not normally do, simply because you were told to it.

All signs of submission to authority.

If you managed to “live” in a society where nobody submitted to authority, you wouldn’t like it. In fact you’d probably be screaming at the government for not forcing their authority on people.

:o

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That is correct. You don't have to wear one, that is a choice you make.

Same with face masks.

I am glad you agree with me.

I don’t think wearing a face mask in public is any more “submissive” than wearing a seatbelt in a vehicle. They’re both for protection.

You are correct, they both show submission to authority and both provide debatable protection.

There are debates that wearing a mask provides very little protection. As is with seatbelts, there are those who argue that in some situations, wearing a seatbelt is more dangerous than not wearing it.

In either case, it should be my decision and not something the government should be trying to force me to do. The government's job is to protect my rights. It is my job to protect myself and my family.

'You are correct, they both show submission to authority and both provide debatable protection.'

WOW.

IN 90% of head-on collisions and roll-overs, seatbelts save lives. However, there are multiple instances when a seatbelt has cost the life of the wearer. Nothing is 100% guaranteed, and in the end, the choice is still up to the individual.

Being submissive isn’t always bad. Do you think it’s wrong for kids to be submissive to their parents when they restrict what kids wear or how they act? It’s to protect them and others from harm.

Good point, but I think comparing children to adults is not the same. Children, by law, are not considered mature enough to make these decisions. Adults have rights that allow them to make medical decisions for themselves.

Yes, it’s too bad all adults don’t take responsibility for their own actions. But we’ve become a society where it’s always someone else’s fault and lawsuits run rampant.

Yes, they’re our “nanny”. Too many people expect the government to take care of them because they don’t have the self discipline to take responsibility for themselves.

Face masks don't protect you, they protect other people from you.

e.g. Surgeons wear masks to protect the patient (from the doctor), not the doctor (from the patient).

Amen.
And seatbelts protect you and others because they keep you from becoming a human projectile.

a seat belt protects the person wearing it, a mask does not

Seatbelts also protect others. I know someone who was in an accident, she was sitting behind the driver and not wearing a seatbelt.

They went round a bend and were hit by a drunk driver on the wrong side of the road. The force of her hitting the driver's seat destroyed her jaw and broke both of the driver's legs, they didn't think he'd walk again.

Unless it’s an unvented N95 mask.
But the whole point of wearing a mask in public is to protect others from you, especially in situations where you can’t be far apart.

The COVID-19 pandemic isn’t normal either.

You say surgeons wear masks because innards are usually exposed and that’s not normal.
We are asked to wear masks right now because we’re in a situation that also isn’t normal — a viral pandemic.

I don't understand what is the downside of wearing a mask. Just wear one.

its not like they are asking you to run up and down a mountain just put something over mouth so it can prevent spreading of the air particles from your mouth if you have something.

You mean how it traps microbes and then let's them breed and spread as you move and they fly off the mask? How about the fact that most masks have holes in them the size of skyscrapers that covid-19 can drive trains through (metaphorically speaking)?
Not only that. They aren't asking. They are telling us they are going to fine or jail us if we don't do it.

Gee, I guess there’s no need to cover your mouth when we cough either.

That's just common courtesy, but is it 'necessary'? No. The worst that could happen is someone gets a mild cold from it. See the only people that are at risk of dying are the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions.

So why not wear a mask out of common courtesy?

My rights are more important than common courtesy. Until they amend the constitution, we have to fight every encroachment.

According to your other comments, it’s only about YOU since there’s no point in wearing masks to protect each other.

Yep, if everyone protects their own interests without breaking the law or hurting others society will get better. If they want to put some kind of emergency power in, they need to amend the constitution to do it. If they don't, they are breaking the law and committing sedition which is a punishable criminal offense.

I believe the constitution already has provisions for emergency power.
https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/commentary/constitutional-guide-emergency-powers

You really don’t get or, do you.
Below you said pandemics are normal and they happen every 100 years or so. But somehow, surgery is not as normal as a pandemic (even though they happen every day). Then you say surgeons ware masks to protect the pertinent but we don’t need to wear masks to protect each other.

Your logic is all over the place and you’re grasping at straws trying to rationalize your fear of tyranny because, in your opinion, wearing masks are not necessary during this perfectly normal pandemic.

“Surgeons wear masks to protect THE PATIENT and their exposed innards. Exposed innards is not normal.”
“Pandemics are, in fact, QUITE normal. They've happened throughout history. The last time was a mere 100 years ago”

Let me spell it out for ya, since you can’t seem to comprehend your own comments.
Surgery happens hundreds of times every day all year long. Surgeons wear masks during them. Pandemic happen once every 100 years or so. People wear masks during them.

It’s no wonder you can’t comprehend my analogy. You can’t even comprehend yourself.

Masks do in fact reduce the threat of spreading viruses. Viruses travel from your mouth and nose in droplets. These droplets are large enough for even a cloth mask to block. Your fear of tyranny doesn’t change this fact, no matter how matter-of-factory your keep repeating it. Facts and science are against you and your fear that the government wants you to wear a mask as a sign of conformity or oppression

“If YOU wear a mask...by your own argument...you won't get sick“

You still don’t get it do you. Just like a surgeon wears a mask to protect the patient. YOU should wear a mask to protect others. People don’t wear their masks over their eyes, and eyes are where viruses can enter the body.

Also, YOU might be a carrier and not know it. Haven’t you heard of asymptomatic carriers? Your argument of tyranny is ridiculous. “Big Brother” isn’t trying to see how much they can force you to do for their own enjoyment. Take off the tinfoil hat and become a responsible member of society.

I'm gonna assume that you don't wear a mask in public

Nope. If i had a M95 mask or better I'd consider it, but no.

so your saying that is is safer to go about with no facial coverings at all then to wear a mask

Yes, unless you know what you are doing.

what is that supposed to mean?

It means wearing the right mask and cleaning the filters and sanitising the mask after every use. Not touching it or adjusting it after putting it on.

well there is not point with arguing with people like you.

no matter what I say u won't care and will go on in this pandemic not wearing a mask.

You're right, I will continue not wearing a mask for a few reasons.

1) Where I live it makes absolutely no sense to wear one.

2) The common surgical or homemade mask does very little-to-nothing to prevent viruses from spreading.

3) I will not be told by the government what I can and cannot wear or how I should act. They have no authority over me when it comes to how I should act during a virus outbreak.

And most of all, I will not be intimidated by local thug citizens who feel like they're above me just because they wear a mask and don't like the fact I don't and decide to tattle.

And since I live in a state (or at least a county) that does not require me to wear one, I won't.

like I said no point in arguing with you. But ok have fun in the next few months

“I will not be told by the government what I can and cannot wear or how I should act”

That’s kind of scary.

How so?

The government tells us to wear things like seatbelts and how to act like harassment and other laws. Just sounded kind of like anarchy.

I'm not talking about seatbelts, I'm talking about face masks. Big difference.

They are both mandates from the government.
But I’m glad you think some mandates are justified.

Unless you're wearing the N 95 mask, the masks are garbage. They don't protect anyone from viruses. And where I live, in Texas, it isn't mandatory to wear masks.

Have fun being one of the government's bitch.

lol, Have fun being one the biggest idiots in the pandemic

Better than being be a bitch to big government.

nah I'd rather be a bitch than have the IQ of a rock

Nice. So you do exactly what your party tells you to and insult someone's IQ when they disagree with you... That's typical behavior. They do that on CNN and MSNBC, too so you have good company. 🙄

you hypocrite, you're getting on me for insulting you because we disagreed when you are the one the called me," the governments bitch" because u disagreed with me

also I hate CNN

I didn't call you a name. I simply stated you were the government's bitch. I didn't call you a bitch.

When you do exactly as the government says, you are their bitch. I on the other hand, like to enjoy as much freedom as I possibly can, which means ignore the government's overreach and their illegal orders.

*sigh* I'm pretty sure listening to the government and top medical doesn't make u their bitch, but whatever U conservatives have your opinions. Good bye stay safe

It isn't just Conservatives that are protesting. Sure, the majority are, but there are people from all walks of life protesting and getting tired of the government's tactics. No one likes being fined or arrested just for not wearing a mask or going to the park to get some much needed Sun.