Stop Stalling While Everyone Goes Broke

What about the $500 billion slushfund for people like Trump to continue to live in the manner they've grown accustomed - that he wants to oversee personally?

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Steven Crowder honestly said it best. "Republicans are the party of the rich. In order to stay that way, they want more people to be rich. Democrats are the party of the poor. To not look like hypocrites, they have to keep people poor to keep that title".

Hey, it's only TWO TRILLION for barely over A WEEK, why should a few more months to a year of this be bad?

The same reason that's better to treat cancer at stage one rather stage four. Also, your meme statement can be turned around: if the dems were okay with it last week, why are they playing politics now? Regardless of the principles of the party, IMO the current group of congressional democrats are a group of incompetents, or perhaps their only competency is in being obstructionist.

Except this still will reach stage four and beyong, and how can anyone, even our beloved CommieCapitalists (hey, if it works for China, why not the GOP?) find the money to pay for it all? Do we ask Yang and AOC to work out the details, with Bernie at the helm?

The Dems are trying to get assurance that real people with real bills and real needs will get something out of what is yet another a bailout for huge corporations. Doubling what is to be given to the rich does not satisy such concerns.

Opinion regarding obstructionists is irrelevent, unless one wishes to call Republicans liars. "Gov't Shutdown' Newt Gingrich's rabble rousing monkey wrenching Young Turks stated purpose was to obstruct and cause chaos while they're at it. Heck, Newt is credited for causing the current mess that's the GOP and getting Trump elected.

Likewise Moscow 'Make Obama a one term President' Mitch's explicit purpose was 6 years of a do-nothing Congress, and he currently has c.400 bills waiting on his desk that he won't even look at, let alone allow the rest of the Senate to do so - not that that would make much difference.

The Repub's lackeys, the Dems, have always been a tad too eager to do their bidding for the sake of, um, something. The only thing they come close to obstructing is their own.

We can play chicken and egg all night and day. Withholding money that everyday people need (because the corporations are closed) to prevent the corporations from getting money does nothing to help the folks who need it *now.* It's not like there isn't going to be another bill passed in Congress, ever.

As for where the money comes from, I've wondered that myself but the Dems aren't concerned about that. No one is right now. The Dems are concerned about where it is going, and are holding up money and programs to help everyone to prevent the rich from getting any. The money and the programs won't even register for the rich, but could be a difference maker for everyone else. And I don't anyone is willing to just give up and die simply because stage four and beyond are inevitable. You must be present to win.

No , WE cannot, since WE are not playing anything.

I presented facts, which you haven't disputed because they are, well, facts.

Speaking of facts, the Republican penchant for ballooning deficits is their own, all myths aside. Cutting taxes does not mean increased spending is not increased spending. To use this as an excuse to throw money at billionaire corporations is hilarious. Seriously, are we going to bailout the airline industry twice every decade now? Between their no peanuts, cramped seating, and Trump's tax cut, if they have no access to those the mega profits they've been drowning themselves in, then that's on them.

As per Capitalismm vs Evil Bernie USSRism, those that fail should be allowed to do so. Individuals have a safety net to fall to, and when their Unemployment Insurance runs out for those who qualify, they can proceed to do like other poor people and get on Welfare. At least they have comfortable homes instead of HUD housing.

Sometimes I'm not sure if you are responding to me or an argument with me that you're having in your head. About half of your last response was pure soliloquy, a diatribe about how much you hate Republicans and why. I get it. You don't like them. This discussion and this meme are about the deliberate delay the Congressional Democrats have created in providing relief to people who are not rich, or necessarily Republican, to defend the country against boogeymen.

I'm not suggesting that this bill should be used to "throw money at billionaire corporations" or bailout the airline industry." I'm not in favor of those things and never said I was. I do not think that these concerns outweigh the need of everyone else. You have in past discussions defended NYC and cities in general with some vigor. If you live in or near NYC, then the need should be visible to you firsthand.

You're not sure because you think I'm arguing something - a symptom of your projection.
I presented no arguments, just facts, to which yet again you choose to deflect rather than address, but then again, admitting simple facts can be so trying.

I don't play team politics, to assume that I'm on Team D is, well, you now how that cliche goes,,,

Latest on the news: King Moscow Mitch granted NY 1 billion out of 150 in assistance, that's 1% for 1/3 of the cases. I'm sure that'll get the base making confetti out of their stacks of tp.

Are we done yet because repetitions of "I can't contradict what you say therefore you're a Dem" begins to bore me a lot?

Projection, Dr Freud?

When did I call you a Democrat? All I said was that you seem to take a dim view of Republicans. And that as someone familiar with NYC, the level of need should be obvious.

As for facts, all I can find in what you said are judgements and opinions. Facts would be welcome.

But if you're ready to quit, that's fine with me.

This bores me really a lot still?

k, let's try it this way, Team T's off, let's get to the point and wrap this up, shall we?

I get the feeling you're trying to say something, so we'll try it this way:

According to you,

Gingrich,

Boehner,

Graham,

McConnell,

&

Co

said and stood for something entirely different from what they said here in a parallel universe,
and that is:

btw, unless your reply begins with an actual quote within quotation marks, I won't read the notification. 53 minutes now just trying to get the tablet from hell creaking and just to waste time on day 2 of dodging with " kNOw, your wrong bee cause I m a GOPer."

" kNOw, your wrong bee cause I m a GOPer." I do not know how you define "GOPer." I am not a Republican. Whether or not I am conservative depends on who you comparing me to.

"According to you" No, according to *you.* I never said or suggested those things. The Democrats have held up this bill for reasons that are not a justification for letting millions suffer and go broke. Last night, a Republican faction pulled similar move. IMO, this is wrong, immoral, etc. And Schumer, a representative from one of the hardest hit areas, had been the ringleader.

I'm not in bed with McConnell, either. As far as I'm concerned, every senator and rep who has been there more than 15 years needs to be removed. Chuck, Nancy, Mitch, Lindsay - they all need to go write books that no one will ever read.