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What exactly is a feminist and do you consider yourself one? Why?

What exactly is a feminist and do you consider yourself one? Why? | WHAT I THINK OF; WHEN I HEAR FEMINIST | image tagged in angry women,feminism,women's rights,the patriarchy,fact,fiction | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Angry Feminist | IF YOU DON'T DO EVERYTHING I DEMAND THEN YOU'RE A SEXIST MISOGYNISTIC PIG! | image tagged in angry feminist | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
I believe men and women should and do have equal rights here in the US. However, the current feminist movement is fighting for women to have more rights than men, which is sexist itself. This in itself is deterring men from looking for relationships because they don't know if the woman is going to screw them out of their assets, accuse them of something, or ruin their life in some other way. That's going to set people back because people having healthy relationships is how we keep civilization going.
4 ups, 5y
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There is still a lot to when when it comes to equal rights between man and woman, and it's good that TRUE feminists still fight for that, but indeed when you go too far people become what they sought to destroy to speak like Obi-Wan Kenobi. When feminism goes too far it comes to a point where women try to take the superior role and men being inferior, and then we have the same situation as before, only with the roles reversed. But I also say that there is no greater threat to an animal than an animal rights activist, and some discussions about racism are also racist in its own way. Sometimes I hear stories about black people yelling about racism when they are rejected some services, completely ignoring that they would be rejected to white people as well, and then you are trying to get more rights as a black than as a white, and then the same story applies, still racism but with the roles reversed (I am not stating all black people do this, but I have seen a few who did... I hold it against them that they abuse their skin color, and not against the entire population of black people. It's actually a racist situation forcing me to say this, but unfortunately reality is that I have to). Equal rights means that man and woman, black and white, homo and hetero have the same rights, but also the same denials of rights.

"That's going to set people back because people having healthy relationships is how we keep civilization going."
I couldn't agree more!
6 ups, 5y,
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Ye
K8. M
6 ups, 5y,
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Ye? As in Yes, or yep or yellow? We've gone from 1 word answers to half a word? Don't break your thumbs typing out a wordy response now. Don't want you getting out of breath. ;)
6 ups, 5y,
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I meant to say I agree with you. However I proably used the wrong word. I must apologize because my grammar is not always on point.
K8. M
6 ups, 5y,
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Well considering "ye" isn't actually a word, i think grammar is the least of your worries;)
6 ups, 5y,
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Feminist is someone who claim to want equality but really want special privilege. Well, the American ones anyway. And no I dont. Cuz I could kind of care less
K8. M
6 ups, 5y,
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I couldn't care less. I think women's suffrage (1st wave feminism) which helped bring about the 19th amendment was a good thing. This 3rd and 4th wave nonsense annoys me more than anything. There's nothing men can do that women aren't doing, there's no nationwide subjugation of females (at least here in the US, and feminists don't seem to care much about actually oppresed women elsewhere.) They want their abortions and birth controls and to hell with anyone who gets in their way. Whoever does is going to get a pussy costume in their face as they march on Washington. That's the impression I get anyway.
K8. M
7 ups, 5y,
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Men who claim to be feminist are another thing.
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4 ups, 5y,
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https://imgflip.com/m/KylieMinogueSUCKS
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3 ups, 5y,
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3 ups, 5y
6 ups, 5y
Well said
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3 ups, 5y
Agreed.
2 ups, 5y
3 ups, 5y,
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What gaggle of goofs gave SIX upvotes for a mere incomplete "yes"?
K8. M
2 ups, 5y,
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His 6 alts ;)
2 ups, 5y
Well he does have 48 followers....
1 up, 5y
I don't know. I guess it was out of generosity
5 ups, 5y
There are thousands who believe in equal rights but find “feminism” a word and a movement that doesn’t align with their personal beliefs or values.

If there were two young boys in a classroom, and one was physically weaker and smaller than the other, would we believe it’s right to keep the weaker, smaller boy from having the same access – to the teacher, to learning, to the computers, to the books and class resources, to other children in the class -- because he didn’t have the same physical strength as the other boy?
5 ups, 5y,
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K8. M
3 ups, 5y,
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I should probably flag this you racist. Bigoted, mysoginistic pre butchered and processed piece of bacon!
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3 ups, 5y
:)
4 ups, 5y,
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Now I am a guy, but I consider myself pretty much emancipated. I always wondered why there was a time in which women were considered inferior to men.
However when I hear some "feminists" speak I wonder if they know the difference between the meaning of the word "feminist" and the word "misandrist". Some of them are really going into that direction.

What I consider "feminist" is somebody (not necessarily a female themselves) who stands up for equal rights for women. That being said, as that is a kind of moment I also see is that some measures are being taken in which women are actually favored over men because "it's apparently needed"... When I saw EQUAL I mean EQUAL, so no favoritism for men over women but also not the other way around. That is merely replacing one problem with the same problem but only with a different group in the "victim" role. A minimal woman-quotum is one of the measures I mean.

In my case, in the last elections for the Dutch parliament I voted for a woman, and that was the first time, but that was merely she stood for things that I highly support and I wanted to support her for that. If she were a guy, he would have got my vote all the same, as I frankly didn't care about her gender. And I basically stand up for those who are treated inferior for no good reason, and when I stand up for a woman for that reason I guess I can be see as a feminist (even though I am a man). But when I think a woman doesn't need my defense, I won't stand up for her, and if she tries to overpower men, I'll stand up for the men. Equality == equality for me! (I just spoke in C notation) :)

Of course, as it goes with everything, people easily go too far in whatever it is they stand up for, and feminism is no exception. We see this too with environmental activists, animal right activists, social activists, gay right activists, and so on. People who truly stand up for a good ideal are easily overshadowed by those who go too far, and I guess feminism also has a bed rep because of that, and yeah, that picture above is what we then easily think of.
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You speak the truth friend. Great points.

With regards to your parliament vote, I see it as you do and also apply that to anyone seeking any job. Those that are best qualified to do a job should get the job. Your genitals should have nothing to do with it.

I work in engineering. We are by and large, male dominant by industry and I have seen some women hired just so a check box can be filled in. Women can be great engineers, and I work with several who do a great job. But, more men desire to get into this field and as such there are more men available to hire. If given the opportunity to interview a man and a woman for the same job, I don't care about diversity. Who can do the job better? That is the only relevant question.
2 ups, 5y
I have quite often to deal with a kind of personal coaches... 90% of the coaches I had to do with were female, and the joke is, jobs where there are "too many" men may have quota for minimal amount of female workers, but quota for more men are not allowed... Sexist?

I do like mixed teams, but in the end, yes, regardless of genitals (or skin color, religion, sexual orientation, or whatever) he/she who is the best person for the job should get the job. In some jobs there is even some irony. I am a coder myself and you may know that coding is a bit of a man's world. The amount of female coders is low, and female coders always have to accomplish more than male ones, but now the joke, the persons "coding" the Collosus computer, the world's first computer were female (although directed by a male boss, but still), and the compiler, today a tool no coder can miss, was invented by Major Grace Hopper... Yup, a woman invented the first compiler (it is true that C was invented by a guy, Dennis Ritchie, but he did not invent the concept of a compiler in general).

Diversity in sexes is a good thing, without a doubt. Women influence men and vice versa, and women do usually have different insights on matters than men do... Not necessarily better, but different and that can lead to improvement. However if there's a vacant spot and no qualified women apply for an interview a man will have to take the job, and indeed if I were favoring a women who is less qualified than a male applicant, only to go for diversity, I would actually be making a sexist decision. One of the few good reasons to want women only could be if I would be a director for a movie seeking somebody who is gonna play a female character, and well, maybe that is "justified sexism".

Of course when seeking a love only a woman can do for me... Am I discriminating now? 😜 And as long as love and sex is not involved, a woman is for me a person and I'll judge her for that, and same goes for guys.

Fun fact. Did you know that J.K. Rowling is known by her initials and not by her name (Joane) merely because her editor was afraid that boys wouldn't buy Harry Potter books if they knew the author was a woman? Sexist? (I personally like those novels, and I already knew the author was female before I began reading them).
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4 ups, 5y,
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I think women are cool. Men are ok too. We're all human.
K8. M
5 ups, 5y
Wise words, young one
2 ups, 5y
Maybe not by definition, but by observation of typical interactions I would say that a majority of those that rally behind feminism are no better than true misogynists. If you try to force the viewpoint that women are superior to men (yes, I know feminism by definition is not this train of thought, but look at the statements made by many prominent feminists and the message is not the same as the definition, it is female superiority by emasculation and suppression of men), then you are no better than men who truly exhibit misogynistic behavior in looking at women as inferior to men. Those that pioneered the women's suffrage movements are true feminists that sought to put men and women on even ground with things as fundamental as the right to vote. Today's feminists will not stop until men pay reparations to women just for being women because they were suppressed for so long, not unlike many descendants of slavery today.

Men and women are created equal in value, but beautifully different in skills/talents/strengths/biology and they are by nature meant to be complimentary to each other. To say that one sex is better than the other is just wrong no matter how you frame it.

Ladies out there, you have the same rights as men. Use them for the betterment of yourselves and society, and please take the time to fight individual cases of true suppression of women as opposed to perceived societal generalities that seek to elevate women and suppress men across the board. It is the individual wins that can be called true victories, and every time one is achieved it is to be celebrated. Don't stop the battles, just pull back on the war against men in general, you may just find that we can be your allies.
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Welcome to the club :)
K8. M
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Just noticed thank you so much for helping me on that last leg!
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1 up, 5y,
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You're welcome! So are you going to do the 1 million points selfie?
K8. M
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Please tell me that's not yours. ;)
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1 up, 5y
Nope, this was mine
1 up, 5y
that’s pink guy. also you are at 1M points now!
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I thought you said no political questions Kate ;)
0 ups, 5y
I don’t know if this is too political, outoto.
K8. M
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Feminism is a pretty broad subject not specifically political. It a social issue.
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Ok
1 up, 5y
Femenists:”Women are equal to men!”
Also femenists:”men are pigs!”

To awnser, really just normally what a femenist is...
1 up, 5y
Come on, that is funny
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My reputation here precedes me!

Here comes my flaming hot Leftist take!

It may surprise you to learn that I'm not all about every single thing promoted by modern-day feminists. Some opinions are basically tantamount to pinpointing men as the root of all evil and the problem for everything in society. I think these bleeding-edge feminist viewpoints are a minority, honestly, but they're loud, controversial, and widely discussed.

The #MeToo movement is criticized too much, I think. It shone a light to sexual assault and sexism in the workplace that is less prominent than it used to be, but still exists. Harvey Weinstein was a crook who deserved to lose his career: but he was only the tip of the iceberg of predatory behavior.

The C.K. Louis stuff was of a lower-level of predation, and I appreciated his thoughtfully-worded apology. I do think he spent an adequate amount of time "working on himself" and if he doesn't re-offend, I think he should get to be a stand-up comic again.

The Aziz Ansari story, if anyone still remembers it, was a moonbat tale of a bad date gone awry that didn't merit reprinting. That said: I think everyone recognized that, and Ansari didn't suffer much of any career repercussions as far as I know.

Can sexual assault allegations be wielded as a cudgel? Yes -- but I don't really see that happening on a wide scale. I saw Blasey-Ford's Senate testimony and Kavanaugh's and thought her story was more credible. This was a missed opportunity that got lost in anti-victim and anti-Democrat partisanship. Overall, the backlash against this #MeToo movement is not well-founded in my opinion.

New comment incoming since this is getting tl;dr.
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As you probably know if you've ever been here imgflip.com/m/SexStream, I align myself with "sex-positive" feminism, which does not view things like porn and sex work as inherently patriarchal or degrading to women. Rather, they're activities that should at least be tolerated and not criminalized: because women (and some men) derive necessary income and even enjoyment from doing such things. Porn and sex work should *possibly* even be embraced simply as a part of the human condition -- the world's oldest profession ain't going away any time soon -- although the potential for abuse of women in those fields should be recognized and discussed.

The bottom-line is consent. No one should force someone else to do something they don't want to. I view the ability to control what one does with one's own genitals is a pretty basic aspect of freedom. Folks should be free to choose their own romantic/sexual destiny and, as long as they're not harming others, should be able to do so free from judgment and shame.

We take first- and second-wave feminism for granted in this country, but it's worth noting that societies can backslide on women's rights. The Middle East certainly did -- in many Middle-Easter countries, women were significantly more liberated 50 years ago than they are today.

In America, women are not about to be stripped of the right to vote, or their right to work in an environment free of harassment and discrimination, any time soon. However: abortion rights are under assault in this country. Obviously there's a lot of disagreement on this subject, and I'm not gonna re-hash all those arguments here, but reproductive rights including abortion are a big pillar of second-wave feminism as opposed to the more cultural concerns of third- and fourth-wave.

Finally, when it comes to "politically-correct" culture: I just view this as a concept for the basic protection of human dignity. If you want to insult women, you have the free speech right to do so, but I have an equal right to call you out on it. That doesn't mean I'm "silencing" you. In fact, it is so-called "free-speech absolutist"/anti-P.C. culture which stands for the principle of unfettered verbal aggression against minorities and such while seeking to deny the targets of verbal aggression from defending themselves and their allies from speaking up.

As far as my own Streams? Yeah, as a MOD, I do have the "free-speech" right to delete bigoted content just as much as you have a right to say it.
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tl;dr
But I was alerted to the last line.

No matter how many times you repeat that hypocrisy, censorsed content is NOT free speech.
0 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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Perhaps you should try reading the TOS instead of quoting it to somehow pretend to justify you trying to be a censorhip dictator?
0 ups, 5y,
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ImgFlip Terms of Service are enforced by MODs, to the extent they are enforced at all

I am a MOD of my own streams

The SexStream description is a tad more detailed than this but is in the same spirit

Don't like my house rules, go somewhere else

The end
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I

AM

NOT

FOLLOWING,

SUBMITTING MEMES TO,

OR POSTING

ON

YOUR

STREAMS,

mkay?

(nor is anyone else)
0 ups, 5y,
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So where's the beef?

imgflip.com/m/SexStream

Only about 2-3 months old: 34 followers and counting!

My other 4 streams: Almost no followers but who cares lol
2 ups, 5y,
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Stop yer cryin and git over it, son. Shit's played out.
0 ups, 5y,
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LOL I have no idea what you are planning to do with this honorary MOD title, since everything's apparently auto-approved in that stream now, and you have already taken a hard stance in favor of free speech absolutism

imgflip.com/m/KylieMinogueSUCKS

Have fun in that dumpster fire. I've already rehashed the probably two times in Kylie's entire career that folks have actually gotten upset with her

So everything else in that stream is liable to just be Sydney coming up with new and creative ways to call Kylie a w**re and OlympianProduct re-posting Putin memes and overall being the classiest Trump supporter on ImgFlip per usual

Sounds pretty fun actually, I may stop by every now and again
1 up, 5y
YOU asked to mod for it.

YOU then were a mod for it.

YOU got booted out of modding for it.

YOU got to see me become a mod for it.

YOU have been crying all day about not being a mod for it anymore.

Get over it and move on.

Is there a point you're getting at? This bores me a lot.
0 ups, 5y
I was invited to be a MOD of that stream gratuitously

And then booted a few hours later: either because you threw a fit, or because they realized that I would probably just delete all of Sydney's nasty misogynistic s**t-shaming garbage if I still had MOD powers

This is what actually happened

The end
0 ups, 5y
Also: Is there a specific grievance you have? Because otherwise I feel like you're merely objecting to the principle that MODs have any power at all

Getting upset at me, and me only, for using powers that are generally available to all stream MODs seems like misplaced outrage. Every stream MOD who has ever clicked the red X on a single submitted meme in their life is in the same boat as me

I note that you haven't submitted any single meme to be featured SexStream (nor do I expect you to, because you've submitted 4 memes total to be featured in your entire profile history), and I've never deleted a single comment of yours on any of my streams

And you've whinged at me plenty -- I disagree, obviously, but allow it all because you're not behaving in any sort of bigoted way
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