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2,291 views 72 upvotes Made by ross09ya 5 years ago in politics
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skeleton waiting | DOOMSDAY ENVIRONMENTALISTS WAITING FOR THE GLACIERS TO MELT AWAY | image tagged in skeleton waiting | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Lighting an Up Vote .... more oil please
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Fake glacier
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Seriously, even if we nuked our planet onto a nuclear winter, there will still be glaciers in that winter.
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Scientists are smart. Deniers are dumb.
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A list of FAILED Predictions
by:
all sorts of scientists, Al Gore, the Pentagon, NASA, US Navy, Prince Charles

Can provide links if interested.
I pasted some down below - have a look-see!

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!

PLEASE LET ME KNOW OF A PREDICTION THAT DID COME TRUE - VERY CURIOUS INDEED.
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No way! In that case - i f**king changed my mind! LOL

Dishonest? These where predictions in regards to our environment. All predictions in regards to our environment and planet earth are wrong. Keep moving these goal posts.

It's dishonest for you not to include the medieval warm period in your graph when human activity can't be blamed.

It's dishonest for you to continue to ignore the fact that 6 of 9 planets in our solar system are warming up and there are no humans living on or polluting them. That alone should prove to you that climate change/global warming is not caused by human activity.

It's dis-f**king-honest to claim fires in Australia as caused by climate change when close to 183 people have been arrested for arson. STOP SPREADING LIES!
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Fixed it for you - that black line is their BS estimate, just like all their other BS predictions that are always wrong. Follow the dotted line and you'll noticed that we're in the same temperatures as we were when human activity and burning of fossil fuels had no effect on our climate.

183 Aussies arrested, but not convicted = I will continue to spew lies in favor of BS climate change agenda - nice bro, real nice!
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Your added dotted line shows we’re already at or near the *highest* temps ever documented for the MWP. The *average* temp for the MWP was significantly lower.

And if we cross higher than that, as the models predict we will do very soon, what then?

Your attempt at refuting the chart doesn’t actually refute anything. It’s a bare hope that the current model of global warming is wrong.

Propose a convincing reason why we should expect to see temperatures *fall* going forward, rather than continue to rise as predicted. A reason that is grounded in data and backed by a logical explanatory theory — and I’ll listen.

But I expect I’ll just continue to encounter more haphazard and not even convincing attempts to poke holes in the consensus model, because that is all I’ve seen denialists present.
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Dotted lline as opposed to solid, do you require Google Translate for an assist in understanding what that signifies?

Here's the thing, this Global WarmiXX - 'scuse, Climate Change - thingy relies too much on deliberate lies. And that's a problem for the theory because science has proven that lies are lies and lies utilized to prove lies only serve to make it all, well, lies.
Proof/Pudding (or lack of therein).

We know we are not close to temps of the MWP because despite no thermometers to record temperature, other evidence - like the Greenland myth that turned out to be a myth about a myth that wasn't a myth concerning how green it was - amply display that it was warmer then by virtue of that plants are not less hardy now than then.

When England can grow grapes that produce wine of such quality that France seeks to take legal action to bar British production of it like they did back then, then we'll talk.
Until then or when Greenland can resume farming at levels the Vikings had a millenia ago, looks like all you'll have going for this fantasy is, yup, you guessed it, lies.
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I’m glad you brought up the wine thing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foodandwine.com/wine/cool-climate-wine-regions-climate-change%3famp=true

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/quartzy/1108814/the-improbable-new-wine-countries-that-climate-change-is-creating/amp/

Have you talked to any wine producers or read what they’re writing about this? They’re all reporting changes in where their grapes grow best. Varietals are being grown in Germany that haven’t before.

So, you don’t like climate scientists, fine? Talk to wine producers. Farmers. Ranchers. Other people in careers whose livelihoods depend upon staying closely in tune with the natural world. They all know.

If climate change is a hoax, it’s one that’s commanding a lot of attention from people across multiple industries.

So: we can talk already despite wherever you just set the bar about France suing England in some hopeless lawsuit.
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I take it you skipped past this from the OP, this being only a partial copypaste due to space restraints and so I ended this chunk with Britain:

"ross09ya

A list of FAILED Predictions
by:
all sorts of scientists, Al Gore, the Pentagon, NASA, US Navy, Prince Charles

Can provide links if interested.
I pasted some down below - have a look-see!

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024"

Anyways, looks like France has 80 years to delay fidgetting on that front, eh?
Merely growing grape vines wasn't what I was referring to, quality rivaling France was.

Here in the Bronx - Zone 7 in terms of plants - I can grow a couple of pomegranate varieties, a species of dwarf banana, and coffee plants. Just like France, Juan Valdez need not sweat, because no coffee going to be produced round these parts. Same with the other 2 (the pomegranates can bear fruit, but they require a longer hot season for ripening). Those picturesque palms that line So Cal streets? Same, no coconuts.
They're trying to breed avocada strains that can successfully fruit in the Norwest US as the trees can survive there now.

You see what I'm getting at?

Anyways, do you READ your own posts? 2020 is not 2100 yet, and as with the predictions on the OP's list, I wouldn't bet too much on that crystal ball.

btw, in 52 years the oil runs out, so here's hoping Britain ain't banking too much on the fine wine busines, because no black juice = no gas = no 2100 pinot noir in the Scottish Moors.
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I don't do links still?

Wine producers in the UK? TODAY?
Post IT. Done.
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You don’t do links? I know you’ve said that before, but I don’t really care.

Just Google some combination of, wine, the uk, and climate change, and look at the top few results. You didn’t think there was any wine produced in the UK?

Or, in case you change your mind about the links thing:

1. U.K. wine sector planning with respect to climate change:
http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/for-sustainable-growth-in-the-uks-wine-producing-industry-climate-change-must-be-integrated-into-sector-planning-now/

2. Britain had 500 vineyards in 2016 with lots of future growth predicted:
—https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/4587163/climate-change-wine-united-kingdom/%3famp=true

3. England’s climate is suitable for sparkling wine especially:
— https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna962606

4. Industry-focused analysis predicting Britain could be a major producer of wine by 2100:
— https://www.decanter.com/wine-news/britain-wine-climate-change-2100-347809/

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Hey still waiting for the predictions that did came true, because you are getting your butt kicked left and right here. Hope you are aware the fact that climate changes is a normal thing in this planet from the day it was created, a single massive volcanoe or meteor can do more climate change in one day than humans in a Melania. Can you stop the sun from getting brighter? The moon from moving further away from the earth? Prevent volcanic activities? Keep the earth in stasis in a "perfect" climate? If you answered yes to any of those, then you are better than me.
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Climate scientists know about and are capable of describing all those phenomena and more.

The “earth’s climate has changed before” thing is a strawman that you global warming deniers love to set up and knock down over and over again. Okay: Find me a single climate scientist who believes the earth’s climate has been constant throughout its history. I’ll wait.

And every single climate scientist would agree that a meteor strike would do more damage to earth in a single day than the activities of 7 billion humans in a year, or probably even 100 years.

No, we cannot prevent meteor strikes or volcanism: but we sure can slow the emission of human-generated greenhouse gases. Which is what’s causing the changes we’re seeing today, according to most climate scientists.

As for predictions that came true: I already cited one study commissioned by the government of Australia 11 years ago that pretty much predicted this insane wildfire season with dead-on accuracy.

But as I said, precise predictions of what changes will happen, where on earth, and exactly when they will happen, are very difficult to make and not really the point.

The point is the overall accuracy of the theory. Which nothing you’ve said has debunked because it’s all information that climate scientists themselves have generated and accounted for in their models.
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Like?
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The new signs: “When they will completely disappear depends on how and when we act. One thing is consistent: The glaciers in the park are shrinking.”

Annual average temperatures in the park have been rising close to 3-degrees Fahrenheit since 1950
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Been shrinking for millions of years.
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So? Some glaciers shrink while other increase in size. Nothing new.
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So true.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145185/major-greenland-glacier-is-growing
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Lol and very expensive
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That's funny, temperature have been rising since the 50's, yet back in the late 60's through 70's, scientist have been warning us of new ice age - Go figure!

see images below for more
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That is based on ONE study. One, and most scientists discounted it at the time. You should use other information to discount global warming.
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...and another one
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...and another one

The Maldives are still here.
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...and another one
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...and another one
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...and another one

Ice free Arctic in 5 to 10 years (2013-2018)
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...and another one

this time by Climate God himself:

Ice free North Pole by 2014
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...and another one

Did you know, back in 2009, we had just 96 months to save ourselves??
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...and another one
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wow, processes can vary in an uncontrolled environment good job youve caught them red handed
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no
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yes im sure, climate deniers are just grasping at straws of out-of-date math on signs that werent changed in 2017 because of budget restrictions, thats all
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Look up, I just listed a whole bunch of failed predictions - FO with your ONE!
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