Remember when Obama asked Congress' permission to take out Gadaffi?

The attacks were OFFENSIVE in both cases, despite the lying excuses made for them like they always do for Constitution violations, and therefore a crime against the American people, though we believe whatever we're told in the media and therefore don't question it.

And everyone else in the third world paid attention, so it came with even more cost. Just like Russia learned its lessons when we RENEGED on our 1990s promises to them about the Ukraine too.

Despite our best war propaganda campaigns, the rest of the world are not complete idiots. Fortunately.

CR, we can argue whether it was offensive, defensive, pre-emptive, whatever, but there was absolutely no violation of the constitution!

Please cite the section of the constitution that was violated?

At best, there was possibly a violation of the War Powers Act. But no president has been forced to strictly adhere to it, as even NPR noted back in 2011.

https://www.npr.org/2011/06/16/137222043/why-the-war-powers-act-doesnt-work

Correct. I used to have a sticker on my vehicle several years earlier than even that with the simple statement, "Only Congress can declare war. (Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11.)"

It was an abusive violation in Vietnam, it was an abusive violation in Afghanistan, and pretty close to everything else in between. If people had to pay in an explicitly amounted War Tax instead of bs Fed thefts, they'd stop falling for this shit. As you likely know.

Illegal assassinations are illegal assassinations - no matter what excuses they trot out for them after the fact. Law does not yield to political expedience, irrespective the party.

Okay, I see your point. And of course, the War Powers Act was absolutely intended to keep us out of another war like Vietnam, but as feckless as it is, couldn't do anything about Afghanistan. But, is something like what Trump did truly considered "war"? Yes, we're still stuck in Iraq and unbelievably still in Afghanistan, and of course this is tied to those wars, but my $0.02 is that it wasn't war. Let's say we could agree that it is, all he has to do is comply with the requirements of the War Powers Act, and he's done, right?. Or is he? He could argue that the troops in Iraq are there based on the the 2002 congressional authorization to use military force against Iraq, which I don't recall had any term. I could be wrong about that. It's a messy situation, no matter what the perspective.

Any international lawyer knows an open and undenied assassination like that is a perfect fit for casus belli. We went to war over barely more with the fabricated USS Maine incident. Or the Gulf of Tonkin.

We are the rogue state we accuse Iran of being.

Of course we also committed an act of war when we conspired with Israel to inject a virus into peaceful Iranian centrifuges to destroy everything. Not that we gave a shit about the fact the virus spread elsewhere too into the wild and did nasty destruction, since we and they are above the kind of accountability we demand of everyone else.

Had we - hypocrites that we are - ever been on the receiving end of that instead of the sending end, the birds would have been in the air.

The Founding Fathers hang their heads in SHAME at our outrageous double standards >>>:-/

ill take the words of that monkey from lion king who said 'it doesnt matter, it's in the past, what's important is that you learn from it' f**k obama he killed kids but trump doing it too isnt any better

Libyan rebels shot him. We supported them by air but Obama didn't just straight up have him killed one day.

He did with bin Laden, but not with Qaddafi.

We didn't just show up out of nowhere. There was a thing called the Arab Spring. Is memory loss starting to set in?

Yes, that totally organic 'arab spring'. Not CIA backed AT ALL, among others. Bwhahaha

No, it wasn't CIA backed, and the fact that it was totally unexpected is fair indication that it was spontaneous.

Those dictators weren't in charge for no reason. Not only did we allow it, we supported them and had placed several of them in place, disrupting whatever democracies stood in the way.

I agree our CIA put them in there, but I also believe they engineered the Arab Spring. Especially when it came to screwing with Egypt.

Yeah, got a street vendor to set himself on fire and used thousands of planted Italians speaking Arabic to wage riots in a handful of countries in order to hand them over to the Islamic Brotherhood and then Hillary Obama used a disguise to kill poor Qaddafi that the Right had for decades called the biggest terrorist in the world till they found out he's dead and now he's a hero too too bad Reagan bombed his palace they coulda been besties *rolls eyes*

Bad enough people here don't bother to look up what they don't know about because the windup monkees are all mouthing the same exact scripted lines, but does a simple dab of logic not apply either anymore?

I mean, it wasn't that long ago

Backtracks on his narrative. Bwahaaahahaha...

Eh?

Iran has a sleeper cell in the United States
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