Total whackjob

I never read that magazine, but I had to look it up... Here's the article referred to folks: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

With Trump, anybody he disagrees with somehow becomes "Far Left". It's his predictable stock response.

But he's the Second Cumming.

It’s the magazine started by Billy Graham.

I was shocked they let someone print that.

Correction by the Graham Family
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Trust me... Coming from a country where everybody is obligated by law to have health insurance, I can say that even here there is no such thing as "free healthcare".

Perhaps... But trust me... somebody paid for that... I do not know exactly how the workings are on foreigners though...
In my case, being Dutch myself, I pay loads of money each months just in case I need care, and thus when I went under surgery last may, the insurance used the money I paid to get the surgeon who treated me paid for her service to me. If I didn't need that treatment, the money I paid would have been used for somebody else...
That is not what I call "free healthcare"...

"Free" is often misconstrued, also being Dutch you know that there are few to zero homeless, and the poor still get healthcare, obviously people are paying, the thing is they are at least mostly the people who can afford doing so. college is what? 2 large euros a year? here its 30 large. The Netherlands is much smarter nation with a better standard of living because of it. We used to have a decent standard of living, affordable healthcare and education, wages could pay the bills... but then the right wing, lets give the millionaires even more money, because well rich folks need money. this is the twisted f**** that started the downhill race on the standard of living for the middle class

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist

When it comes to homeless, don't say things you don't know, as the numbers of homeless people were spoken about on the Dutch news yesterday and they appear to be at an alarming rate... Het Leger Des Heils, a charity organization who takes care of homeless people simply can't handle the demand anymore, and let me tell you that I pay over a hundred of euros for healthcare a month, while I am officially (according to Dutch standards) poor, also having one of the cheaper insurances... Healthcare insurances are quite often a nightmare to people, and keeping the insurance prices under control is something that our government often has headaches about... And left and right are not of one mind here, and that also puts pressure on things...

Even in a country like the Netherlands, known for it's high standards of social security (only outranked by Sweden, Denmark and Norway, as far as I know), the situation is far from ideal. And the gorge between rich and poor is getting more and more visible here... It's not as huge as in the U.S., but still... We've had a liberal government for many years now, and it may sound strange, but due to them on the right (and not the left) side, things are going this way... Well, that and more complicated issues...

And to tell you an amusing anecdote about the homeless in the Netherlands. In the theme park "De Efteling" there's a dark ride called "Carnaval Festival". The music played there is hated as once you hear it, it never gets out of your head ever again. At the central station of Utrecht (the countries biggest railway station) they had a lot of homeless people for whom the place was good shelter for the night, and they used the tune from Carnaval Festival to scare them away (which actually worked, or so they told me).

But all-in-all, living in the Netherlands, has a lot of benefits, I'll be the first to admit that, but it does have a price... a high one... But I know that the U.S. does have a lot of trouble on this, and that working hard will get you a good life, the core point of the American Dream, doesn't work out fully the way they'd like the world to think...

The problem in the U.S. is also that as soon as you come up with the "secret" of the Dutch model, progressive taxes, and a better healthcare system and a system that can reduce poor and homeless people, you're name and picture will circle all around the country with a hammer and a scythe, and the discussion is over... Oh well..

It was a while back when I needed the care, in fact if I was allowed to pay it would have been in guilders. The squatter laws have changed quite a bit since then too, but back in the day one did not see any homeless at all. Regarding the USA yea the whole work hard have a good living dream is dead, now you work hard so you can pay the taxes the trust fund babies and billion dollar corporations dont, and only to paid a tiny fraction of your worth so the C suite can cash in your labour... sad what has happened, but thats unregulated capitalism. Forgot who at the moment but a famous economist once predicted a capitalist society can only last about 450 years or so till the workers have finally had enough and the pendulum swings back to the hard core left. We are about 400 years into it right now if I remember the story correctly.

Well yeah, the healthcare system has changed a lot if you still had to pay in guilders back then. Possibly that was even in the time we had the "Ziekenfonds" system still in place, although that system was abolished long before the guilder was replaced by the Euro. I do think that the hammer and scythe propaganda towards people with a more left orientation is because the ultra-right-wing politicians know that sooner or later the poor workers can come to rebellion and want to "warn" you about the communism and prevent the U.S.A. to become "like the U.S.S.R"... Now even Karl Marx himself admitted that communism in its purest form was very likely not going to be realistic. The Dutch system, as much as in the entire E.U. tries to combines the benefits from both capitalism and communism to each other. Although the right wing parties are more into the capitalism camp and the left wing more into communism (which is what "left" and "right" technically stands for in the first place... well, close enough... I hate to admit that Hitler was left-orientated on these matters, but he rejected the core idea of communism/socialism, stating everybody is equal to other people, so there is a bit more to it than just that)... I am really interested in that 450 years of capitalism theory though... Of course, the Russian revolution leading to the forming of the Soviet Union, was indeed set as the capital as the enemy. Hitler's anti-Jew propaganda was also set by depicting the Jews as capitalists who'd make money over "honest people's" (read: Germans') back... Yeah, if capitalism creates enough people in very poor conditions, than sooner or later enough will indeed be enough and then rebellions with terrible consequences are sooner or later the result... And we know that all attempts to bring pure socialism/communism have all been failures and I'd hate to see that happen to the U.S.A.

Of course, you'd wonder why I as a European should care, but the point is... I don't believe in Dutch, Germans, Americans, Brazilians, Chinese, whatever... I only believe in humans, and I simply am a bit allergic to human suffering for things they had no control over... Perhaps it has something to do with what I went trough myself, but enough about me. And if Trump supporters wish to shoot their own feet, I'd love to let them, but I know those who are wise enough to see the error in Trump's ways will suffer too, and that stings me a little...
Or maybe I'm just too good for this world 😜

Agree, neither system in its pure form is going to work. hard to get a balance when either group starts grasping and getting control, like the right wingers have been doing since the early 80's. Kids today in the US think things are better under Obama or Trump, or or... they have no idea what they missed out on in the 50's, 60's and most of the 70's. It would take a big swing left to be able to get back to that. pity.

Fair enough.