"However bizarre or wrong, that was one of the most coherent things I've ever seen Timber post.
The reason America won't stay at the top is size. While we may have all those things coast to coast, technology, innovation and be a powerhouse, China has 3 times the population and is quickly reaching the point where they won't even need us anymore.
There are options now for people around the globe. Honestly, I'm surprised an anti-American consortium hasn't formed to counter Trump and simply demanded us to back down or lose out world wide.
The world has moved on. That is why America is being left behind."
I usually don't read past the 1st half line of anything Dimber says because he always says the same thing, which is typically ad hominems occasionally dressed up as some pretentious pseudo intellectual babble based on revisionist fantasy.
Especially with this thread, since I've been sick this week to the point that scrolling up and down hurts my eyes and gets me close to nauseus, which is why I haven't gotten to read your earlier exchange with Syd even though I intend to yet.
The thing with China is that is DOES need us because it's basically our factory, churning out goods to sell here. Efforts to expand such domestically have met some success, but is still limited. They also sell to other markets such as in Europe.
Thing is, within China and abroad none can meet the gluttonous wasteful impulsive
appetite of the American consumer. Deprive China of the American market, whether manufacturing our goods or their own, and its economy dries up. And that's by design - giving it Most Favored Nation Trading Status is what elevated its economy in the first place.
Yes, over time it will develop more of its own consumer base as well as extend links with others as it has been doing since Trump, but minus THE big spender, it's ascendancy gets curtailed, as would any other country. The US is the modern era's Rome, its economic engine. Should that come to an end, then another Dark Ages shall begin. It's not an accident that the current world boom began after America started exporting it post WWII, with some roots going back to Woodrow Wilson, if you will.
India is a far better bet than China in the long run, more free market driven than the autocratic designed machine of China. The latter's approach suffices for now, but India's allows for innovation.
Regardless, without America the rest of the World will do what it had prior, and that is collect dust.