i dont think the president is allowed to ask other countries for help getting dirt on other people running for his office
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7 ups, 5y,
2 replies
Then you'd be wrong. On many levels.
1. He never asked for dirt. He made a perfectly legal and normal request for the Ukraine president to cooperate. No threats. No blackmail. No coercion.
2. Had he asked "for dirt", that would have also been fine. But he didn't. Dirt is stuff that's already there, not fabricated nonsense (like the libs are doing to Trump).
3. Biden running for the nomination (he's currently not even Trump's opponent) does not give him sanctuary protection from answering for any potential crimes he committed. Even if he were the nominee (still almost a year away), his wrongdoing should be investigated correctly.
trump was using the fact that ukraine needs our support to defend themselves from russian backed rebels as leverage to get a favour from the ukrainian president which involved looking into joe bidens son
and no it would not have been fine, it isnt okay for a president to try and turn a reelection in his favour using foreign governments
even if none of this is true and the entirety of the media is all coordinating a big evil scary bad attack on god emperor, he literally publically asked china to look into it as well
Really? It seems to me that the President used his office to pressure another office to investigate his political rival. I fail yo see your pov.
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4 ups, 5y,
1 reply
How it "seems" to you doesn't matter. All that matters is what really happened. The transcript, both parties, and the listeners on the call did not observe anything wrong.
And Biden is not Trump's political rival at all. He's not the nominee for the Democrats and even if he were it does not protect him from criminal activities.
"Trump never said or implied "Imma need ya to do us a favour before we sell you these weapons" -- You're lying."
I was obviously paraphrasing. No need to directly say I was lying.
So because AOC isnt the Democratic nominee, she isnt Trumps rival. I'd imagine that he rivals most of the democratic party. Besides, he is high in the polls for the democratic nomination either way.
Come on. We should be able to agree on that atleast
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0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
Yes lying, because you didn’t paraphrase, you completely said in your own words what it did not say and no one in their right mind could interpret it that way.
At a very base level, yes a “rival” per se, but not in the specific sense being implied. And as I clearly stated and am correct on, it’s not relevant. Biden did wrong. He should not be protected simply because the opposite party is in power due to some nonsensical imagination.
I agree with you on the second part. I suppose Rival is not an accurate Term. Political Opponent is more accurate, ya?
I do disagree with the first part. I read the transcript and what I got out of it was that Zelensky said something along the lines of: "We are ready to buy Javlins from the US" And Trump answered with something along the lines of "We need you to do us a favour tho"
So I'd say I wasnt lying. At least not consciously
OOh, that reminds me.
Seems I spoke too soon the other day. Yes, the day after I asked where were the Q Anon memes from your 'non' alt, kiwihouse, your 'non' alt, kiwihouse posted a, yup, ya guessed it, a Q meme! Well, I stand correctededed *wink*
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3 ups, 5y
Still no idea who Q is or kiwihouse is, so stop babbling.
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3 ups, 5y,
1 reply
And all who were on the call said nothing was wrong.
It takes some idiot DNC plant to claim he overheard something (and thus not a whistleblower)
Idk man. I took a lool at the transcript, or what is available and it seems to me that the Prez pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on biden
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2 ups, 5y,
2 replies
Nope. Read it again. And regardless, digging up dirt isn't an invalid or illegal request. At all. If there is no dirt created by Biden, nothing to "dig". If they asked to MAKE UP FAKE STUFF like the democrats are doing, that would be different. Asking only for cooperation is 100% okay and legal. Sheesh.
Nobody yawned about 4 Americans dying in Benghazi. No more than the 250 killed in embassy attacks while Bush was Prez. People yawned during the 4,5,6 and 7th Benghazi probe that was run exclusively by Repubs, finding nothing and no one of guilt.
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