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Facts | it'll just stop safe abortions, and up the suicide rate among rape victims; Banning abortion won't stop abortion; | image tagged in coat hanger,abortion | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Futurama Fry Meme | YEAH, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM IF LIBERALS HADN'T GOTTEN GREEDY, DITCHED A WORKABLE COMPROMISE, AND OVERREACHED OVER INTO FLA | image tagged in memes,futurama fry | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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What you are against being a Do IT Your selfer? Hey you got pregnant by being irresponsible. Why should not have to do the job fixing it . Your choice protection or a Hanger. I am sure it will cut way down on irresponble sex
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Victims of non-consensual sex are not at fault for being raped, the rapist is responsible for r@ping them.
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PEOPLE LIKE GERMAN MAYOR HENRIETTE REKER VICTIM BLAMES BY SAYING "WOMEN SHOULD KEEP ARMS LENGTH AWAY" | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Henriette Reker. Look her up if you don't know the story. Basically you got a bunch of refugees swarming into Germany and they are raping / assaulting German women on a large scale. And this is what their officials have to say about the crimes. They care more about foreigners than they do their own citizens.

And where was the public outrage about this incident? Where was all the feminists and social justice protesters? They are over here in the US choking on gnats while turning a blind eye to real problems. Instead of marching on Washington over some remarks a man made years ago perhaps marches could be made for these German women.

But you will most likely be labeled a racist for pointing things like this out. That is what people has done to me before.

You are absolutely right! The victim of rape is not at fault! I don't care if she runs around completely nude, it does not give another the right to rape her!!!
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that is why u use the pill, the morning after pill and stay out of bad areas
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We can continue here, if you like...
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the Green Party by no means feels that all votes are counted equally. We know that the system is rigged but we fight to promote democracy and more fair elections. A lot of our members work with a wonderful organization called Represent Us, You should look into it; it's nonpartisan and works to stop corruption and build real democracy.

You can think of voting Green Party as submitting a protest vote against oligarchy and in favor of an organization of activists that tends to push back on the Dem Party to force leftist policies like Medicare for all and the Green New Deal into mainstream debate.
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Admirable stance. Unfortunately, it does more harm than good as it completely ignores the passive-aggressive role that third parties play in Presidential Elections. It's the equivalent to playing Solitare while everyone else plays Poker with the same single deck. While yes, the two other people at the table could still potentially win, the player playing Solitare is definitely unlikely to do so. In fact, the Solitare player actually endangers the chances of one of the other two players winning by continuously drawing from the same deck.
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that logic assumes Greens would vote for one of the capitalist parties if the Greens weren't here, but most the Greens I know would not vote at all if the Greens weren't running. Also, the Dem Primary is rigged so your vote in it doesn't count anyway.

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/dnc-we-can-legally-choose-candidate-over-cigars-in-back-room-e3026730e252
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Are those that you know aware the reality that their candidate cannot possibly win the election? Do you deny the probability that because the Green party appeals to some liberal voters that it can potentially decrease those who might vote Democratically? And are you generalizing that those who would vote Green would not consider any other option at all other than the Green party? It seems to me that your assumptions are much greater than my own. Also, I assume you are aware most national conventions are rigged in some way; that between delegates and super delegates; the committee members may choose a candidate despite popular support.
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check this out https://act.represent.us/sign/the-problem/
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I will look into this. Thank you for the link.
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And voting Green Party pulls votes away from Democratic candidates that would otherwise place moderate to liberal judges who support Roe v Wade on the Supreme Court to keep it as is. By voting third party in Presidential elections, you unwittingly support banning abortion.
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AmySwank1, I implore you to debate me on this without memes. I am not trying to undermine your political positions or insult you. My goal is to educate you on how our political campaigns work so that you can actually contribute your views to the rest of the voting population.

In a perfect world, perhaps your vote would matter and the United States would honor it's multi-party status by giving equal attention to all parties. But the fact of the matter is, we're a two-party system and have been one for over one hundred years despite the intentions of the founding fathers.

The Green Party primarily appeals to liberal voters and when you advocate for Green Party Presidential Candidates, you falsely presume your vote contributes in some meaningful way but it actually undermines the liberal views that you actively advocate for. Including keeping abortion legal.

I'm not saying you cannot vote independent or Green Party at a local level, or state level, but until there is a significant overhaul in how the electoral college actually works, there is no point in anyone voting for anything other than Democrat or Republican. I've seen this happen for decades and it only leads to people being incredibly disenfranchised in voting to the point that they fail to vote at all. In some ways, I have a feeling that some people think this is the system working as intended.

That the less educated or the less wise do not deserve a vote. I vehemently disagree with that. I'm not going to even lie to you and say that Democrats will actually overhaul or abolish the electoral college. The only truth that I'm prepared to convince you of, is that third party candidates in a Presidential Election, with the way the system is currently structured, can never be President.

I'm sorry if I come off as repetitive, but if you ask any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
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Also, I'm not a liberal; I'm an eco-socialist
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I'm a Sociologist and like memes, they save me time typing.
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Fantastic, you're a sociologist. If you don't actively participate in the executive elections with a meaningful vote, you're severely limiting your access to how you actually effect the federal government. Presidential elections are not a democratically elected system. You're only participating in a passive manner that ultimately leaves your choice continuously looked over in favor of passing up a candidate with at least a minimal support in the issues you actually care about.
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The Green Party isn't oligarchical, but the Dem and Rep parties are.
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Ah, but the Green Party actively participates in the Presidential Elections despite the fact that they cannot win them. Therefore they contribute to the oligarchical structure that you so rigidly oppose. If they truly cared, they wouldn't bother wasting time and money on Presidential Elections and entirely focus their efforts on winning congressional seats.
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Green Party stands in opposition to oligarchy. Also, voting is not like a horse race, the goal is not to pick a "winner" but to vote for a person you feel will represent you best and the Green Party represents me better than any of the capitalist parties.
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Except it is exactly like a horse race. Even if you bypass the statistical unlikelihood of a third party winning by a landslide across the nation, the Electoral College could still swing the election to either Democrat or Republican presidential candidate.

Perhaps the Green Party doesn't stand for oligarchy but it indirectly supports it by contributing to the systematic lie that all votes are counted equally.

I encourage you to keep debating on this. Feel free to reply to my comment above.
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it'll just stop safe abortions, and up the suicide rate among rape victims; Banning abortion won't stop abortion;