Bringing Up ‘The Good O’ ’Days'

Oh, but you do mind. You know you do.

"Many Christians" give me a break. How many gays have been thrown off buildings by Christians as compared to Muslims?

Those aren't Christians. It's one thing to disapprove of a practice, it's another to wish for their deaths, imo.

Not a true one. If you get a concept as wrong as that (Wishing death), no matter how much right you get, you don't get the true spirt.

You might think so, and I know by contract you have to be a dissenting troublemaking shill in every 3 of 4 posts, by contract, but if you focus on Jesus, who came to fulfill the law, you can't wish for someone to die because of a path they took in a sinful world. Jesus, came to this world to die to redeem God's children, in a most horrible and painful way, and we shouldn't wish for people to die before they choose to accept their redemption.

But I did say imo, as you know. I know, I know, contract :)

it really is a "no true scotsman" fallacy.

let me explain:

up until the late 60's Christians never referred to themselves as simply "Christians".they identified as their preferred denomination i.e catholic,episcopalian,methodist,lutheran,7th day Adventist etc etc.

human beings can be quite the little bigots and tribalists,and if we look at our own history you can see where certain groups were ostracized almost exclusively for their religious affiliations.*race is still the all time champ,but religions played a large role as well.

just go back and look through how America patted itself on the back for electing a *gasp* "catholic" into the oval office (JFK).it pretty much mirrors the exact same sentiment when we elected Obama!

the "no true scotman" fallacy became prominent almost parallel to the advent of using the blanket euphemism "Christian" to express a religious affiliation.

I am pretty sure I have relayed this story befire,but I will again,because it makes me laugh...

my brother in law is a devout evangelical Lutheran.hardcore mode.

and one of my greatest joys in life is to introduce him to other devout followers of Christ.he always gets so excited when I introduce him to others who embrace the love and grace of jesus Christ.

until I pull him aside a few minutes later to inform him that they are:mormons or jehovahs witnesses.to watch his entire outlook change in real time (he literally transforms in front of me) is just one of lifes simple pleasures.

yes.
I troll my brother in law constantly.
and yes.
I am a dick to my brother in law.
and yes..i absolutely love and respect him,but I find his rigid religious ideologies tiresome and hypocritical,so I challenge his pre-conceptions by using the "no true scotsman" fallacy,and he bites every...single...time.

ok..i may have rambled on here too long and totally lost my point.it is in there somewhere!
it's like bobbing for apples! but they are a salient points instead of fruit!

Pshh no. All Muslims are Evil long bearded Men who hate everyone and everything. Also they have a world wide conspiracy to take over the world! And Stuff. Because!

I have defended Islam many times, but that's crazy.
Attempting to equate radical Islam with radical Christianity is crazy and harmful.
Radical Islam is a much huger problem. Christians in the US are SO liberal and not imposing.
Both Muslims and Christians can be terrorists, but the terroristic sentiment is much stronger in many many Muslims because Islam is at a dark age backwards time in its religion.
We should be more thankful for our benign Christians.
Most Muslims in the US wouldn't mind, they have assimilated well (cannot say the same about Europe)
That being said bringing up radical Christianity as a response to talking about radical Islam seems to be avoiding a real problem.
Sydney using Scripture to justify that Steven Anderson is not a Christian could be using the Quran saying that suicide is explicitly punishable by hell meaning the 9/11 bombers were not Muslim.

Not exactly. You're neglecting to consider two Post War trends:

🔘 European/Christians were taught to feel guilt over the blood of millions they shed in various wars culminating in WWI & WWII, and also over that which they bathed in with invasion and colonialism and the racist propaganda and policies they enacted to control their vassals and justify the cruelties they visited upon them.

Mind you, despite the efforts of the VOA, Marshall Plan and other efforts of America to domesticate and modernize once and for all this planet of squabbling savages, this didn't happen overnight. When I was your age I couldn't believe the Brixton Riots, Paki Bashing Saturdays, neo-Nazi Skinheads, and the rise of the National Front - all this in the UK - were real. Now your generation can't believe that the UK's former oppressed victims rape, assualt, and butcher their former overlords in broad daylight with near impunity.

Today's sporadic acts of terrorism committed by Moslems is no match to what was accepted as a daily norm a mere 7 decades ago in Europe with it's colonial subjects. Tens of millions of Indians and Iranians starved to death in the 20th century while the British took food from their farmers to take home so they can stay fat at affordable rates during WWI.
The British East India Company - a PRIVATE corporation, once had the LARGEST army in the world. They waged war in the Indian Ocean over cloves. CLOVES. C-L-O-V-E-S.

🔘 Middle Easterners/Muslims in the meantime were a lot more laid back than today. Then came WWI with the Ottomans joining the German war effort. British, American & French sought to weaken the Ottoman Empire by promoting nationalistic fervor amongst the various ethnicities within. After they lost, a large section of the country was divided up into fake countries we now call Arab. Enter WWII andbGermans again looking for allies, then thebpost war threats of Soviet takevover and worries of Nasser's dream of a pan-Arab Reublic taking hold, and and nationalism and religious zealotry - as provided by the new Wahhabbi movement - once again became the tools to drum up proxies for Western needs.
We created this mess and keep exacerbating it for our own myopic short term goals, thinking a little tweaking is all that is in need.
Acts of Islamic terrorism prior to this meddling? Zero. ZERO. Z-E-R-O.

🔘 As for Muslim assimilation in the US, pffft, as if. Smaller numbers in proportion to the whole, better economic and housing oppurtunities, immigrants that are more educated or at least skilled, etc, has allowed for less anger and radicalization.

We now see growing numbers and greater concentrations, feelings of being subject to prejudice and discrimination, less educated and wordly sorts, etc, all which contribute to alienation. That kid getting picked on in class for being a terrorist? He just might decide to prove them right.

The only Muslims I've encountered that don't have share the distaste Middle Eastern and European ones do for America and the West are from African countries like Senegal and Gambia.

As for the rest, note you words and look back at them in 20 or 30 years, you won't believe how things will have changed.

Yeah I agree with your first paragraph.

except those Muslims aren't RADICAL and the Christians you mention ARE radical. The quote is comparing Radical Islam to Mainstream Christianity. Comparing radical christianity to mainstream Islam would be equally offensive.

so that being said, I'm not sure who the guy in the meme is or even if the quote is accurate. So forgive me if I responded based on the quote as written in the meme and not the actual quote

You are a true patriot. Thank you, for what you contribute to some semblance of sanity.

Anyone remember the twat Steve Anderson? No, just me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjdNVLH0aX8

Absurd comedy. I got the point.