The lefts answer to everything. "One more law will fix it."

It's obvious, we need to ban stupid people.

This quote is attributed to Einstein, but whether or not he actually said it has been disputed.

Either way, while his genius in the subject of physics is indiputable, I'm not sure that he knew a damn thing about mental health. Expertise in one field does not necessarily carry over to other fields.

This could also be considered a definition of "practice."

We seem to have lots of practice making gun laws, but not enough in enforcing them.

While 20000 (literally?) gun laws seems insane, it is equally insane to think that complex problems, such as gun violence, can be 100% solved with a Magic Bullet. Most of the problems our country faces require a collection of initiatives, each solving a piece.

Gun law reform? Nice idea. Maybe we'll get to that after tax reform, immigration reform, healthcare reform, etc...but with the intractibility of Congress I do not expect to live to see it.

I don't think you quite get the quote, as follows;

Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results –

Changing and altering exhisting laws would not be doing the same thing over and over again would it? It would be changing and altering gun laws, whereas doing absolutely nothing as you so desire would be doing the same thing over and over again, which is nothing and where we are today.

I don't think that over 20,000 laws restricting firearms can be called doing nothing, but they have been ineffective.

What has been shown over and over is that all these laws, including the basic laws against murder and assault, have not stopped criminals or people determine to do violence.

You see the fallacy with gun laws is that bad people don't abide by them. All gun laws do is restrict the constitutional rights of the law-abiding citizen.

For some people, mostly on the left, they feel passing one more law will fix anything. Most gun laws are feel-good laws, not do good laws. Passing a law because it makes you feel like you're doing something, even when it doesn't address the real problem, is just dumb.

What needs to happen is we need to look at the cause of the violence and have discussions on how to address that. Firearms do not cause violence, they are just a tool. Like any tool, they can be misused, like cars, explosives, knives, baseball bats, etc. The problem is more complex than that. We don't laws restricting firearms, we need to look at mental health issues, bullying, poverty, and a host of other issues if we truly want to do good and reduce violence.

With over 300 million firearms and over 1 trillion rounds of ammunition in the hands of private citizens, if firearms themselves were the problem we would all be dead.

Well said...

Still doesn't match the quote. And people and still getting shot up

"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws" - Penn Gillette

True

Then get rid of these 20k laws and reform it into one set of coherent laws. Perhaps add Gun Licenses, a mandatory training period(say a total of two weeks of weapons traing spread out over a number of month) perhaps special licenses for Snipers and Machine guns, or just outright ban Snipers and Machine guns? There is a lot that can be done, but by doing nothing your not helping anyone except the NRA (or atleast their memebers and donors) who will continue to profit from weapons sales

Machine guns are already a HIGHLY restricted weapon now. An average person can not just go out and buy a machine gun.

But why Can you even buy one? What purpose coyld you possibly have for a Machine gun? Self defence? I think not

Because it is a right to own one if someone so desires.
Also the 2nd Amendment was not created for "hunting" or just "target shooting" like so many on the left would have you think.

The WHOLE reason the 2A was created was to allow the citizenry to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

THAT is the ONLY reason it was created.

Thats good and all, but in the dawn of the modern Era getting acces to illegal weaponry is easier than ever. If tge US government ever turns into a totalitarian regime (Something I find to be highly unlikely) you'd have little problem on getting weapons. In the meantime, I think we can make it a bit safer by banning Snipers and Machine Guns?

I want to ask you something, what do you mean by snipers?

Well Snipers generally. extremely long ranged weapons. You'll have to firgive me if I am not specific. I onlg ever bothered to do research aboout handguns, since I own one.

As to machine guns, anything with over thirty-thirty-five rounds and at a fire rate of 900+ RPM

I see.
Well I was not trying to be a smart aleck when I asked you that, I was just wondering if you knew what defined each.

The machine gun is a decent explanation, except a machine gun is defined as anything that is fully automatic as opposed to semi automatic.
What that means is: semi-automatic is whenever you pull the trigger once, one bullet comes out.
Most handguns, as well as AR-15's, including some hunting rifles are semi-automatic. They are pretty much the standard type weapon used today.

Fully automatic is when you pull the trigger once and the gun keeps firing until it either runs out of ammo, jams, or overheats.
Most military and some law enforcement weapons are fully automatic.

Fully automatic weapons are a HIGHLY restricted item now, and you either have to purchase a special tax stamp to own one (plus the wait times are about a year to get that stamp), as well as have fingerprints done, or you have to have a class 3 FFL license(which is very stringent to get. You have to go through very strict background checks etc to get that, as well as going through the other way purchasing the tax stamp, multiple fingerprints of both hands and background checks as well).

As far as snipers go, it would he very hard to define a sniper rifle because pretty much ANY hunting rifle with a high powered scope could be used as such.

The machine guns are a pretty straight forward definition, but a sniper rifle would be very hard to define really.

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to try and help you understand the difference.

I truly do believe that a lot of the citizenry of America even do not know a lot about guns.

I was raised around them and shot them from an early age.
My dad was a hunter so picking up a gun and being around a gun is truly like second nature to me, and I am fully comfortable around pretty much any gun I pick up once I study it a bit.

Hope this helped.

Ah thanks!

Also could you please define what you mean by a machine gun?

FightingUntruth's post indicates you do not live in the US. Are you in the UK?

No, Germany actually.

Hey, better than what you Americans are proposing. Which is to say nothing.