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Surah 9:29. is a clear cut example. (though some will try to create contextual misinterpretations)

Or perhaps tis you who has the Contextual misinterpretation?

No, it's pretty clear.

Well I read the German Variant and it pretty much says something along the lines of Defend yourselves against those that would dare try to harm your belief in the one True god and then some more stuff about the corruption of the Catholic Church, I think. Can't remember it now. Has been a day or two.

Yeah, those pesky Catholic pedos deserve everything they get and more.

No, but the cult of Islam is the most prevalent and most powerful of all cults/religions where their main platform is murder and rape. Nice deflection, but it's been done before.

I tend to hate people who's sole purpose in life is either to murder and rape and mistreat women and gay's, or silently applaud those that do. Call me crazy.

I didn't say every Muslim.

If I switched Muslim with Christian, would you be as offended?

Probably.

I didn't say all the people were violent. I said the group (cult, religion) is a violent group. It's founded on violence and hate. If you know some history, or are willing to learn, read up on the roots of Islam.

"I said the group (cult, religion)"

Define Group (Cult, Religion)

Islam

A religion (cult) that basis their entire belief around a man who lived from 517 AD to 632 AD. This man (Muhammad) is considered a prophet by Muslims. He had 9 wives, including a 6 year old, Aisha, whom he consummated the marriage by the time she was 9 years old. This not only makes him a sick pervert, but also an actual pedophile, as he raped many underage girls during his lifetime and which many Muslim men believe is their calling, to rape women in general.

The entire premise of Islam is to forcibly convert the entire world and murder those who do not comply.

Majority Islamic countries such as most in the middle east and fast becoming Eastern Europe, support Sharia Law where "mercy killings" and turning women into less than dogs, beating and stoning to death anyone who fails to follow the Islamic law, etc.

Rape, murder, torture, pedophilia, and sex trafficking are the norms in Muslim countries.

And before you bring up the fact we have those here in Christian countries, it isn't Christians as a whole who are doing these things.

Ooohh boy I can see we will be at this for the next week at the very least

"A religion (cult) that basis their entire belief around a man who lived from 517 AD to 632 AD"

And Jesus was also a man who lived from 0 Ad to whenever it was that he died, that is not evidence for Islam being a terror Cult

"He had 9 wives"

Yes. For, as far as the Islamic Holy book states, Helping out the widows of his companions.
Creating family bonds between him and his companions (Muhammad married the daughters of Abu Bakr and Umar, whereas Uthman and Ali married his daughters. He therefore had family bonds with all the first four Caliphs).
Spreading the message by uniting different clans through marriage.
Increasing credibility and sources for conveying his private family life. If he only had one wife, then it would have been a tremendous responsibility on her to convey Muhammad's private acts of worship and family life, and people would try to discredit her to destroy the credibility of these practices. However, with multiple wives, there were a lot more sources to the knowledge, making it more difficult to discredit. Therefore, his marriages gave more women the opportunity to learn and teach the matters of his private life.

", including a 6 year old, Aisha, whom he consummated the marriage by the time she was 9 years old."

Hmm. True, though she was due to be wed off anyway. It was a Barbaric time back then. Doesn't mean it is accepted by Muslims today.

"as he **ped many underage girls during his lifetime and which many Muslim men believe is their calling, to **pe women in general."

No. He has had, once again as far as their holy book goes, only consummated with Willing wives, and yes the Book states Aisha was willing. Muslim men do not belive that, while I am sure there are enough Islamic Terrorist Extreemists out there who think so and have probably done so, they do not represent the entire Religion

"The entire premise of Islam is to forcibly convert the entire world and murder those who do not comply."

Really? Because I kinda remember how Prophet Muhammad conqured non-Islamic cities and didn't forcibly assimilate anyone. In fact had you bothered you would find out that the religon preaches peaceful coexistence above all else.

"Majority Islamic countries such as most in the middle east"

Did you know that Dictatorships like to employ sstrict laws to enforce their will on their people. Sharia Law is an out dated law set, designed with the problems of the medieval world in mind. They are conveniently strict however and are often used by Middle eastern Dictatorships to try and get a bit of legitimacy for their rulings

"fast becoming Eastern Europe"

No. I don't think so. While Eastern Europe has regressed when it comes to Democracy, its quite frankly more likely for Putin to bring back the Soviet Union than any of those countries implementing any sort of vaguely Islamic laws

"turning women into less than dogs, beating and stoning to death anyone who fails to follow the Islamic law, etc."

Yeah, maybe in The special Premium I.S. version. 100% more heresy.

"Rape, murder, torture, pedophilia, and sex trafficking are the norms in Muslim countries."

They are for the most part 3rd world countries. Its always a bad idea to mix religon and government. Still, that has less to do with them being Muslims and mkre with the after effects of Colonialism and their own shitty actions

"it isn't Christians as a whole who are doing these things."

Yeah, and it isnt Muslims as a whole doing it.

You'd be in the minority then.

But Islam as a violent religion is not a stereotype.

Maybe both are true. I'm ok with that. Still supports my point.

At least his came from this century

Also, much of the "Christians" who were slaughtering Muslims, were doing so in a massive push-back from Islamic aggression. Basically, Islam came in, conquering lands and murdering Christians and taking Christian women and children as sex slaves (you know, cause the Qu'ran tells them to) so much of the Roman Catholics (which represented many of the Christian nations of the time) finally fought back, but did so in a much more brutal way.

If God allows the wicked to be punished by the wicked, then who are we to argue? Although, as I have stated many times before, before Christ's death and resurrection, things were much different than they were after. Christ came and poured his blood out to atone for our wickedness.

Before Christ, if you did not sacrifice an actual clean animal to God, you were not forgiven of your sins. Burning a sacrifice was the way to talk to God in those days. After Christ died and rose, we can now pray to God through Christ. And the way wicked nations were punished for their adherent wickedness was through slavery and slaughter. Man put it on themselves, just as man continues to sin, but now we have Christ's blood and overwhelming mercy to save us.

Yes, no one talks about the Janissaries either, who were basically captured Christian slaves made to fight for Islam.

I always thought it was funny that it was the Christians that ended the slave trade yet the Muslim slave trade was worse, plus they castrated their slaves yet only one side takes the blame, and it still goes on in Islam today.

Uhhhh....no- that's just the comparison of christian vs muslim. Learn to read. LOLOLOLOL

Yeah, i misread it and deleted it. By the way, not every European or North American was a Christian LOLOLOL

I couldn't care less about what Facebook group pages he looked at, he is what he is.

Don't like it? Neither do I.
Hive five, my brother, we got this.

not

1. Muslim terrorists kill people while praisng there god and quoting there actions are backed by the Quaran, not some radical dude, the book that IS there religion.
2. They KILL LGTBTQ+ people because they say it is against there religion.
3. they constantly attack jews and are a spewing machine of anti-semitism.
4. if you don't submit to islam they will either kill you or raise high taxes on you, they also turn your town into a shithole (not all of them though, but most of them).
5. They want to make hate speech illegial, they want to jail you for anything you say that they disagree with.
6. Just look at indonesia.
7. Muslims around my neighborhood shun non-muslims and destroy american culture.

"Muslim terrorists kill people while praisng there god and quoting there actions are backed by the Quaran, not some radical dude, the book that IS there religion."

Ha! As a matter of fact Islamic Terrorists could be furtger distanced from the religion than if they were to mive to Pluto. They might Quote parts of the Islamic Holy bool, but it is a Gross misinterpretation. For example the Book states the only way for you to kill without Sin would be in self defence. Now The likes of IS turn that around and say, we are killing American Heathens because we are defending ourselves from their Imperialist ways or some such nonsense. Islam might be a very Conservative Religion but so are most religons.

"They KILL LGTBTQ+ people because they say it is against there religion."

Well of course. Like Christianity, Islam sins Homosexuality. That is a fact. And Extremists use them as good targets to channel hate against

"they constantly attack jews and are a spewing machine of anti-semitism"

Hey budy, lets not confuse an Arab Israeli conflict with a Religious Conflict. There has always been hate against the Jews, not only from the Muslims.

"if you don't submit to islam they will either kill you or raise high taxes on you, they also turn your town into a shithole"

That is actually False. True Muslims should be the very definition of Peacful Co-existence. For example Their Prophet Muhammad, conquered many a City with Non-Muslims. Instead of forcing assimilation he let them keep their Religons. Of course they WERE conquered people, so insert every thing one does when subjugating a City

"They want to make hate speech illegial, they want to jail you for anything you say that they disagree with"

Ha. Perhaps those Dictatorial Pot heads lime the Saudis or Iranias. But not every singal Muslim is out to get your freedoms. Hell not even a minority of them are. Perhaps 1% of 1%?

"Just look at indonesia."

I am looking and all I see are Muslims being prosecuted and their being a culling of them. Wasn't there a Controversy about how that Nobel peace prize winner who got elected as President of Burma or something turning a blind eye towards the genocide of the local Muslims?

"Muslims around my neighborhood shun non-muslims and destroy american culture."

Then you live in a shit Neighbourhood. Even still, let not the actions of one colour the faeces of many.

1. Seld defense: yes you are right about killing for "self defense" and the "misinterpretation" which is exactly what they do, they say other religions are a threat to theres so they attack them.

2. Don't you dare compare christians with muslims throwing them off of buildings.

3. They espically hate jews and attack them on the streets, there churches and homes, and want to know the worst part, this is part of the reason feminists support islam.

4. I am talking about right now in this time century.

5. About 50% actually.

"Seld defense: yes you are right about killing for "self defense" and the "misinterpretation" which is exactly what they do, they say other religions are a threat to theres so they attack them."

Good that we could agree on the fact that Ectreemists wilfully misinterpret the Koran (Quran... However you write that)

"Don't you dare compare christians with muslims throwing them off of buildings."

So 1. Am I not supposed to say Both Muslims and Christians hate Gays? 2. Once again let not the actions of one colour the faeces of Many. Following the logic of a Muslim killed a Christian all Christians are hated by Muslims, would mean that Christianity hates everyone.

"They espically hate jews and attack them on the streets, there churches and homes"

The hate is mutual in Israel. While I personally support the Israeli state, theh themselves are not innocent of wrong doings. Besides that prosecution is nothing new. Would you call all Hindus terrorists for their persecution of Christians and Muslims alike?

" I am talking about right now in this time century."

Thats nice. But still doesn't change the fact that only Radical Jihadist Extremist Terrorists belive in that. You make it sound like all Muslims are warmongering savages.

"About 50% actually."

Honey that couldn't be further from the truth than if you were to go to the Andromeda Galaxy and preech your "Opinion" there. Honestly for such open hate of a group you would wind up in Prison here in Germany. We actually have functional Hate Speech laws that don't limit our Democratic freedoms to the point of Dictatorial regimes, contrary to American opinion.

And nice dodging all of my other points. I'll asume you coincided those.

for you last sentence, sorry unlike you i was doing research before jumping into a conclusion, anyways.

1. good you agree

2. I am saying condeming gays is not the same as killing them, also, i'm am targeting the religion not the person.

3. "the hate is mutual", when was the last time a bunch of jews went to there church and stabbed people to death, the muslim hate of jews is not even comparable to any other religous hate.

4. sorry about my wording, hate can come in many ways but the muslim way is the worst, oh by the way you dodged my comment because you know i'm right and you'll look like an idiot.

5. WHAT??? I did not really understand what you were saying, this is not an opinion this was a real stat.

6. now, i did not dodge i was gathering shit so here it goes, discrimination my ass, 98% of indonesia is muslim, i don't know what time period you live in but get your shit together.

7. yes i do lve in a shit neighborhood but the muslims don't

" I am saying condeming gays is not the same as killing them, also, i'm am targeting the religion not the person."

True, but we must remember these are Fanatical Extremists. They practically mame everyone their enemy. But the fact that they are Extremists means that they do not Represent tge entire Religion. Thats honestly my biggest complaint, that one attcks the entire religon over the actions of a few

""the hate is mutual", when was the last time a bunch of jews went to there church and stabbed people to death"

Oh no. Not like that, the Israeli military is well kniwn for its scandalous attacks on civilian targets on the Arab's side for murky reasons at best.

"did not really understand what you were saying, this is not an opinion this was a real stat."

Okay look. While I agree there are some horrible Extremist Terrorists out there who lust to see the world burn in an attempt to gain power, perverting the teachings of a generally peaceful religion and using a bastard variant as justification You cannot say all Muslims or a Majority of Muslims are terrorists. That is simply wrong. The very definition of Extremism is that some people take it way way too far.

"98% of indonesia is muslim,"

Whoops I was thinking of Indochina. I completely forgot Indonesia was a country. My mistake. I am actually quite suprised at the amount Muslims living there. Anyways, as for the perecution just google 'Myanmar Muslims' and you'll see what I was thinking about

"yes i do lve in a shit neighborhood but the muslims don't"

Alright I can't exactly comment on this. You live where you live.

Learn to spell and I might listen

Valid Argument right there ladies and gents. Do Apologize for any typos, English isn't my first language and I miss typos far more often on my phone. I also apologies for your lack of an actual argument. Nothing to be ashamed of

Tell me this then, how many terrorist groups base their actions on Christianity please. How many people they have killed sense 9/11. Also what country they are based

I am not denying that Extremist Islamic Terrorists have caused death and destruction for the furthering of their own goals. What I am disputing is that these fringe extremist groups represent an entire Religion.

"Tell me this then, how many terrorist groups base their actions on Christianity please."

1. The Army of God

2. Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God

3. The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)

4. The National Liberation Front of Tripura

5. The Phineas Priesthood

6. The Concerned Christians

https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

Islamic Terrorists don't have a Monopoly on Terrorism. Nor as previously stated represent islam

You forgot how many people they have killed and what country they are based :)

Thats not the point. You asked me for Christian Terror groups and I provided. The point being that the actions of the likes of IS or Al Qaida do not represent the entire Islamic religion

No, I asked for Christian Terror Groups, how many they have killed and their base country re-read my comment