Standing in solidarity with the people of New Zealand.

seriously?
what the fuk is wrong with you knuckledragging know-nothings?
coming on to a thread about actual slaughter,where actual woman and children were gunned down,and you see this as the perfect opportunity to make it about YOU and YOUR little "gun control" issues?

and WE are the "libtards?.the "libturds"?

get the fuk outta here you useless muppet shitbags.

go...GOOOO...
go fistf**k your mom or something,ya gaggle of trumptarts,hell,go finger each other.

but just goooo
why wou..I jus..what is wron…
gaaah…/throws mic

At what point in this post did I bring up gun control?

not you silly.
greatbreadbasket and seetheswithhatedemocrats

enochthewatcher, you really agree with this extremist libtard?

I don't know who you are talking about.

what I don't understand is why when someone,and this case ME,points out the very non-controversial point how the media treats terrorism differently.

when a muslim engages in radical violence against innocent people.nobody really attempts to change the narrative.
we all look at it for what it is,now there may be mitigating circumstances or whatever,but we all agree:radical muslim just engaged in violence for a specific goal.

we all agree that incident was a terrorist attack by a radical muslim,and it was tragic.

but when a radical white supremacist engages in violent act,with a specific goal of terror in mind and even has a manifesto! AND streams it!

we aren't supposed to call it what it is:radical white supremacist terror act.

we are supposed to view this "lone wolf",as somehow not being indicative of some deeper problem within our society.nothing to see here folks! just a lone,crazed shooter who in no way has affiliations with some pretty bad hombres.*even though there is always evidence that the supposed "lone wolf" belonged to some pretty radical white hyper-nationalist and racist groups.

so just like muslim terrorists exist.
so too,do radicalized white supremacists.

and some of the snowflakes who become so offended by that very simple,and obvious fact.really pisses me off.

because it tells me those little pansies lack the ability to think.
it tells me that they empathize,and identify, with the white terrorist groups.

because there is NO excuse nor reason to defend a maniac who walks into a mosque and just starts gunning women and children down.
that is an act of cowardice,cruelty and racism.

and to attempt to deflect,or move the argument away from the fact that this man was indeed a radicalized,white supremacist is not only vulgar,but it is a cynical lie to avoid the truth.

and ben shapiro is an adept liar.

so I don't know if this answered your question,but this is my opinion.
my .02

Your opinion on Ben Shapiro is just that an opinion. The truth of the matter is that you liberals engage in the same type of thing. It is just truth. When a Muslim commits a terrorist attack you liberals are all defending them and telling us not to judge all Muslims for the actions of a few. If a Christian commits an act of terror you blame all of Christianity. All Christians are bad, Christians are the real terrorists and blah blah blah. You may not realize it but you do. When the South Carolina church shooting was committed by a white supremacist happened leaving you unable to blame Christianity for it you used it to make a case for gun control instead.

why do you INSIST on putting words in my mouth?
1.not a liberal.
and you can't complain when people generalize,and then turn around and do the exact thing you were just complaining about.
2.opinions on lies,that can be proven lies,is not an opinion.
just because you may not like that fact,does not change the reality.
3.you are arguing with your own strawman,and not against anything tht I have put forth.
and those strawmen are based purely on your assumptions,and nothing to do with me,or anyone on this thread.

so at least let us be honest here.
you are arguing with some figment in your head.

and I have to admit,reading your comment kinda made me sad.
watching you just whoosh air,against some perceived enemy.

but that enemy is not me mate.

Well then I apologize. While I have accused you of some things, just some of your posts are the types of things liberals often post. I do like having conversations with non-leftists about things like this and I apologize for calling you a hypocrite. No, I am not Islamaphobic. I just hate the double standards with liberals and Islam. I’m sorry if I perceived you to be a liberal.

we should all hate double standards and hypocrites.

on civil liberties,conservative politics.shapiro is on point.smart and eloquent.

when it comes to race,religion and isreal?
he becomes a shameful propagandist.

Funny how quickly he forgot that 'facts don't care about your feelings' and not liking identity politics when Omar mentioned AIPAC exists.

that's where I have always had issue with shapiro.

Or maybe he’s just a propagandist, period.

Propagandist...like you.

Says the dimwit with the one dimensional party hack propaganda bot name.

Typical liberal

Nice. 👌

what classifies as “far right”?

Being horribly closeminded and acting like anything on the other side is a work of the devil. It perfectly defines Ben.

PawesomeAwesome, someone who isn’t left of center.

Name the last time New Zealand had a mass shooting before now, I’ll wait.

You accuse me of deflecting, yet you refused to answer my question about New Zealand's Mass shooting rate.

New Zealand had one of the worst mass shootings in history today. A criminal did manage to break the law to get a gun. And since you Antifa people have been training with guns the last couple of years, you have a lot of nerve to talk to others about guns. You people are the violent ones. You people are the communists who would kill everyone who disagreed with you if you could. You are the last people who should have guns. I do believe in gun control...but for YOU.

The Great Brandini needs to take a deep breath,calm down,& then carefully explain the reasoning behind his comments that the people who don't want guns in the first place shouldn't have them?

As my meme points out,traditionally its the non violent liberals who need to worry about being killed by pawns of the elite who fear that the message of nonviolent resistance might cut off the gravy train. As for the spate of public shootings, they've overwhelmingly been by fundamentalists-either Islamic fundamentalists or our own homegrown MAGA hat wearers who post online about how much they hate those who they fear might compete economically with them. Not liberals. In each case the common denominator is hatred & a desire to blame some innocent folks for the sins of others.
Brandini, you revealed exactly what it is that you truly fear with your Communist crack;you fear that your toys & money might be taken away by the terrible liberals! Guess what?

We don't want your money any more than we want your guns! All we want is for our tax monies not 2 go to finance death & destruction.
We want things like clean air for our children to breathe,clean water for us all to drink,and food not sprayed with RoundUp & stuffed with genes that shut down digestive processes & that disrupt intestinal flora,thereby killing our immune systems!
We want our kids to live. We don't want them to die from drinking fracking solvents.or from breathing depleted uranium as they're shot through the faulty armor & deafened by the crap earplugs defense contractors send our kids out w/ so that Big Oil can grow fatter still on our sacrificed children. Mammon is a bloody God. And the idiot you support Trump,is even robbing the Pentagon & Homeland Security! How long do you think it will be before the man who is too paranoid to let the Secret Service guard him_to get twitchy & decide that 2nd Amendment rights are just too risky to allow because he has ample reason to look over his shoulder? No other President has been so paranoid. Can the Night of the Long knives be far away? Followed by confiscation of all weapons,just as dictators ALWAYS do? Hillary was never coming for your guns,folks. That's just GOP propaganda designed to make you support the conservative/Republican cause--which is at heart not all what it claims to be.

CanaryInTheTemple, all I can say to that is it works both ways. Your little new green deal wants to tell us what to eat, where to live, what to drive, etc. Your girl AOC and crazy Bernie have flat out said that they want to overthrow capitalism. You complain that we blame all liberals for the actions of a few, we’ll take a look at yourself every once in awhile and see that you do many of the same things. Calling conservatives racist and fascist and all sorts of crap. Believe it or not not all conservatives think the same. I actually support things like gay rights and criminal justice reform. While I don’t agree with abortion in the least i do see the fact that anti-abortion laws often exacerbate the situation. I am not afraid to criticize my fellow conservatives who are against these things. Sure I may get called a Rino and things like that but I am not going to change my position. These ridiculous anti-abortion laws always get thrown out because the Supreme Court has long made Roe v Wade the law of the land. If they really wanted to they could have thrown out Roe v Wade a long time ago. The Supreme Court has also been gay marriage the law of the land. Despite resistance from some groups, it is all legal. That being said I still don’t think a baker should be forced to make a cake for a gay marriage if he doesn’t believe in it. I also don’t think that changing your gender should give you any right to use the same restroom of the sex you have chosen to be. That gives the green light to too many pedophiles.
You say you have the right to safety and protection, but I also have the same right. I have the right to secure borders and to be protected from invasion. There is no doubt in my mind that if illegal aliens were a potential Republican voting bloc there would already be a wall on the border and sanctuary cities wouldn’t exist. Because if you don’t think Democrat politicians don’t spoon feed you propaganda then you really are delusional.

No, libturds are too removed from reality. It is better for them to just deflect.

Yes, IHateDemocrats,your screen name says it ALL! You are so consumed by hatred that it's your very identity online! You choose to condemn all fellow citizens who dont share your political views. Im sure that your assessment of the present political & environmental nightmare we find ourselves in is indeed well balanced,fair & accurate!
You call us "libturds"- How very MATURE of you!
Your astute political analysis of the reasons that millions of Americans choose to vote for Democratic candidates must be oh so very accurate! I could retaliate by pointing out that higher education is inextricably associated with a more liberal viewpoint-not because universities are part of a "liberal agenda"- but because the more one knows about the rest of the world the more we realize how little we really DO know! It makes you humble, not the stuck up creatures you condemn us as. No liberal would describe himself as a "stable genius " any more than we'd pick screennames like "IHateRepublicans"!.

Oh CanaryInTheTemple, higher education doesn’t always mean higher intelligence. Most college graduates spend a lot of money for worthless degrees that go nowhere. Some of the most intelligent people I have known never even graduated high school. And that goes for rich liberals as well. Neither Bill Gates nor Mark Zuckerberg graduated college. You really just threw out a lot of the liberal stereotypes that make me often hate liberals. You claim to be so tolerant and open-minded but you turn around and do the same types of things you accuse your opponents of doing. At least conservatives don’t go around preaching love and tolerance. You do, but that seems to end when someone disagrees with you. That person automatically becomes some buck-toothed, low-educated, racist redneck. That is why I often tell liberals to not preach to me about that stuff until they learn to be truly that way themselves. Sure, it is fine to be intolerant of intolerance, but that is when it actually happens, not when somebody simply disagrees with you or somebody doesn’t have the same type of politics you have. I don’t recall conservatives starting riots on college campuses to keep a person they don’t agree with from coming to talk to a certain group. As much as you talk about businesses banning people the owner disagrees with, I have seen liberal business owners do just that with the police, MAGA hat wearers,etc. You talk about school shootings. Well school shootings are not as frequent as the media would lead you to believe. In fact, after they peaked with Columbine they actually declined. The worst terror attack in US history was perpetrated not by domestic far-right groups but foreign Muslims. You don’t have to use “IHateConservatives” as your username because you have made that perfectly clear without it

I didn't say higher education was any guarantee of intelligence-i said that as people become more educated their political leanings often go left.
Once you become exposed to the larger world you are SUPPOSED to grow!
Liberals ARE tolerant-you won't find liberals wigging out because black or Mexican families moved next door. Nor will you find us being Good Germans by squealing on some hardworking Mexican doing a job no MAGA hat wearer wants- because we suspect he or she might lack a green card.
We see where the true threats lie-& no,it's not a sad crew of desperate refugees. Yes,they're a challenge.
But they are NOT a "national emergency! ".
I'd like to point out that the hate crazed men who took the towers down were allowed in under LEGAL immigration, much like TRUMP has bought in thousands of employees under Work VISA-he LOVES immigrant labor, the Scrooge!
He can exploit them with ease,the ultimate turn on for a bully.

Have you forgotten how many attacks we've had from home grown nutjobs?
Timothy McVeigh? The Kansas bombings? The clinic attacks? Exactly how many mass shootings ,bombings and arsons can you attribute to those pesky liberals?
You know on which side of the violence scale is heaviest.
Before you label all of us as hate filled,understand that many of us detest censorship,and believe that silencing speech sets a very dangerous precedent..
Incidentally, Trumps censorship of the press,& CDC,& destruction of our EPA is far scarier than a few upset college kids who don't want a right wing speaker to lecture at college!
Many of us thought it absurd not to let the researcher who wrote 'The Bell Curve' speak. I don't like censorship-and your buddy Trump censors people.
I have NEVER in my entire LIFE witnessed ANY business owner refuse service to a police officer!
Most are delighted to have a cop in their coffee shop,deli,or restaurant, because it's a great crime deterrent. They comp cops as a way of thanking them for their service. Its a small courtesy for the risks they take on the job.
As for MAGA hat wearers, I would imagine that those incidents have more to do with the hostile personalities of the hat wearer than than the hat.
I've never said a word to any MAGA hat wearer I saw-why would I? This is supposed to still be America, & I don't dictate their choice of head gear!
As hard as it may be for you to comprehend, I do not hate people for being Republican. I pity them,for Trump has caused dissension within the party.

You want to talk about poor red states, well there is not a ghetto in this country that is ran by Republicans, all Democrats.

Do you seriously think many Republican politicians are interested in representing the interests of districts that are populated by blue collar cattle? Yes,I said CATTLE-for such is the contemptuous attitude the political elite have of the very people that pay their salaries! They sit & play solitaire on the PCs we bought them in session because they've already been told how to vote by their major campaign contributors.
As long as we can produce income they can grab we are barely tolerated.
But let us become disabled, or old,& it's time to cut off any aid that might keep an old milkless cow around. Culling time-off to the slaughterhouse with us!
Republican legislators think the sick should promptly die,yet they oppose compassionate euthanasia laws. Why? Because terminal patients, even low income ones,still represent big bucks to Big Pharma & Big Healthcare.
God forbid that we be permitted to die w/ dignity. No,that's only for the wealthy!
Much like reliable contraception & prenatal care, as well as medical aid for all those babies the birther Republicans are SO concerned about-until they exit the uterus! Republicans do indeed prate on ENDLESSLY about "family values"- yet they don't walk their talk!
How family values is it to refuse to help American children receive medical care,safe food,clean water, to breathe clean air so that they don't die from severe asthma attacks & get cancer from herbicides & pesticides in their food,or fracking solvents in their water?
I watch Republican legislators drone on about family values then cut the already sparse safety net out from under the most vulnerable members of society.
The birther thing is about keeping birth rates up so that they can draw a large army & cheap workforce from it,not the sanctity of Life. They coldly assume enough will survive to draft & use when they force births upon the poor. At least the Nazis had Lebensborn homes!
They want plenty of peasants to support the lifestyle to which they feel entitled.
And if they don't feel like paying us decent wages,they just write up ever more restrictive laws for minor crimes with mandatory sentencing rules to negate our judges & juries. That allows them exploit loopholes in the antislavery laws to force citizens they bust into slave labor. Then "law & order" touting Republicans pretend they're "making the streets safer" when they are actually aiding the dissolution of families & increasing drug use!

Liberals and their double-standards

At no point here did I even entertain the notion of christians being terrorists.

If this is the best rebuttal you can give to someone for saying white supremacy is bad, then I'm just going to assume you took my post as a personal attack.

I did take your post as an attack and I am pointing out your double standards regarding muslims and christians. You never stand with Christians against anything, but a very rare time a muslim is attacked you blame America, Christians and conservatives...even though this happened in New Zealand. You people intimidate and taunt Christians everyday, but never Muslims. You are always talking about Separation of Church and State but that doesn't apply to Muslims according to you.

When have I ever said that separation of church and state shouldn't apply to muslims? Please, point to an example of me saying that.

I'd also like to point out that America IS largely to blame for the destabilization of the middle east, and therefore responsible for the existence of terrorist organizations like ISIS.

Yes, that included your messiah Obama as well. But thanks for blaming America, you are no better than ISIS or any other terrorist.

I would also say the same about the 9/11 terrorists. You are no better than they are. You Democrats all are.

Didn't even address that. You Democrats do these things and you know it. I don't know how old you are? I am guessing since you are a Democrat you weren't old enough to remember 9/11. That wasn't Christians, it was muslims. Very few attacks by Christians but lists full of the muslims you Democrats love.

It dates back to the Crusades! That is what started all of this!

Bullcrap