If and when I have a kid or two, I'm not raising them "genderless" no matter what PC liberals tell me!

I'd probably laugh. Also, I'm gonna tell my kids science and facts so that won't even be a concern.

Gender is determined by your chromosomes. That is a fact. Trans is not a mental illness, but it is a delusion.

Physically, usually (there are people who are born with or develop sexual characteristics not typical of their sexual identity), but psychologically, even more susceptible to deviation, as with what mikkiscorpian said.

Mental illness, delusion, normal - all just subjective perspectives and classifications.

"Gender is determined by your chromosomes." Why are you trying to work so hard around that fact. Your poor opinion still does not changes the fact.

"VagabondSouffle 23h

A higher than average number of women of homosexual orientation were born to mothers who used Diethylstilbestrol from the 1930s - 70s to prevent miscarriages. Many trans women born to such mothers claim this must be what caused their condition.

The youngest in a bunch of sons have a higher incidence of turning out to be of homosexual orientation.
Women under a prolonged period of stress may experience elevated levels of estrogen production and are likelier to give birth to them as well, as witnessed by the higher numbers of them born in areas undergoing continous heavy bombardment in European countries during WWII.
There is some indication that an auto immune response by pregnant mothers to Y chromosomes may cause the same type of hormonal imbalances, again, affecting orientation of their sons.

The brains of trans men are often smaller than average for males, approaching that of women in proportions and structure (i.e. thinner cerebral cortex).

So obviously these are various biological and enviromental factors affecting gene expression associated with orientation and gender indentification."

I deal in facts, not opinions, poor or otherwise.

You have my permission to refute them.

- Oh, that's right, you can't.

btw, will you guys stop answering for your alts? It doesn't lend any credence to your fake pre-made so-called opinions handed out to you, it merely makes it all look even lamer.

"But there's 4 of me saying the exact same thing"

Yes, there is, champ, yes there is.

Still does not discredits the fact that was stated. Stop trying to shift the context of the conversation. You are not winning.

BTW I do not have alts here. Unlike you. Yes there is a bunch of people here telling you that you are wrong and the best you can do is shift the context of the conversation so that people forget what they are arguing about then you can feel better about yourself.

Is you finding what I never said going to take much longer?
Or are you scrounging for more bullshit to pull out of your ass (not going to ask how a cow got it up there) to fake argue about?

Oh, and what's the prize for this contest you've entered us into? A bonus 10pts and a plaque for the e-wall?

Still waiting.

Don't forfeit that jar of cherry gumballs. They even put a nice bow on top for you.

Congrats, you can read. So try adding some comprehension to it instead of wasting my time with your diarrhea gurgling idiocy?

But I feel bad for you, so I'll play. Show me where I supposedly disagreed with that point, because quite frankly, I can't find it myself. Might have something to do with the fact that I never did, but you seem up to the challenge, so knock your little head out.

I'd pay to treat their mental illness, same as if they told me they were OCD, bipolar, or schizophrenic.

ok

So NOT factual. A huge segment of life on earth, changes sex naturally every day.

https://ourblueplanet.bbcearth.com/blog/?article=incredible-sex-changing-fish-from-blue-planet

But I'm talking about humans, not fish...

All mammals evolved from the oceans. We have remaining internal switching that is still there.

Great meme.

What happens when chromosomes don't get expressed properly? Gene expression is a complicated system - we don't even teach it in high school.

How often does that happen?

A higher than average number of women of homosexual orientation were born to mothers who used Diethylstilbestrol from the 1930s - 70s to prevent miscarriages. Many trans women born to such mothers claim this must be what caused their condition.

The youngest in a bunch of sons have a higher incidence of turning out to be of homosexual orientation.
Women under a prolonged period of stress may experience elevated levels of estrogen production and are likelier to give birth to them as well, as witnessed by the higher numbers of them born in areas undergoing continous heavy bombardment in European countries during WWII.
There is some indication that an auto immune response by pregnant mothers to Y chromosomes may cause the same type of hormonal imbalances, again, affecting orientation of their sons.

The brains of trans men are often smaller than average for males, approaching that of women in proportions and structure (i.e. thinner cerebral cortex).

So obviously these are various biological and enviromental factors affecting gene expression associated with orientation and gender indentification.

"Women under a prolonged period of stress may experience elevated levels of estrogen production and are likelier to give birth to them as well, as witnessed by the higher numbers of them born in areas undergoing continuous heavy bombardment in European countries during WWII. "
I wonder if they ever studied Cortisol too. You think they would have high levels of that too under such conditions.
I wonder if there has been a cancer increase in these women from higher estrogen/prolactin levels?
Stress does nobody good.

Perhaps the elevated cortisol level causes an response with elevated estrogen?
If I recall correctly, Diethylstilbestrol has been associated with an increased rate of va**nal cancer.

Continous higher levels of cortisil and adrenaline due to stress experienced by low ranking baboons who never get to mate and are frequently harrassed by higher ranking males lead to increased susceptibilty to a whole host of illnesses and shortened lifespans. Human males lead shorter and sicker lives, so evidently...

Women, however, love that drama, and adjust to being alone better (with the assistance of cats at times), so they probably do a lot better than those around them that have to bear their wrath.

- My comments are being scoped by someone who called me a misogynist last night, so that delightfully worded bit was a wink to her ornery self. -

Very interesting.
I do know high levels of estrogen can cause breast cancer. an ex GF of mine had it and the Dr said it was the cause.Luckily she is ok. Eats hormone free foods now..

and you so eloquently called her a "Crazy cat lady" lol.. good burn.

I was looking up Diethylstilbestrol last night because I couldn't remember the name, so skimmed through different stuff while reading up on it. Perhaps breast cancer was mentioned and I forgot or missed it?

Women who don't breast feed their babies have a higher incidence of breast cancer, so maybe all that extra estrogen flowing around for naught ("Can you hear me now? Feed the kid already. Not yet? How about a notch higher?") is the cause.

Horrible thing to go through, but glad to hear your ex is ok at least.
My mother's cousin had to have a masectomy for it, and that was in the mid 1970s, and she's been alright since.

Yeah, couldn't resist wedging cat lady into it politely.

Yes very scary stuff cancer. my mom is a 30+ yr colon cancer survivor

medical science is getting better. I had an aunt that died from breast cancer b4 I was born. The stupid Dr didnt do anything, she had a lump the size of an egg and she finally told my grandmother and yelled at her to goto another dr right away. It was too late, she died a yr later. This was in the late 50's. The chances for survival now are much better.

Yes Nursing is much better for both mom and child, helps the child have a better immune system.

Cat lady.lol

Thankful for that at least.

My father got a small spot of melanoma removed removed soon after finding it about a decade ago, lucky too because it was a more dangerous strain. Odd because he's the only one in his family to get any cancer as far as I know, and he's olive skinned.

On my mother's side, my grandmother was taken by lung cancer in the early 70s, an uncle 35 or 37 not too long after. My grandfather was similar to your aunt in that he kept going to get checked for stomach problems, nope, no biggie, what? gall stones. By the time the idiots realized it was stomach cancer, it had spread to his other organs, so too late. That was in 76.
A few years ago a cousin was lost because of brain cancer. A year or so later her sister got pancreatic cancer, but at least the treatment was a success.
They're from Puerto Rico which is 2nd to NJ in US cancer rates.

Breastfed kids also end up with higher IQs as well.

Wow I can understand NJ (ever see Cadillac man with Robin Williams?)
but would not think of PR as the #2. Is it because of eating a lot of fish and mercury etc?

I thought I hadn't, but then looked it up now and remembered it when I read about Tim Robbins taking everyone hostage. But I saw only once way back, so I can't remember much.

It's the pollution. To encourage economic development, the US encouraged a lot of pharmaceutical and other chemical companies to open factories there. They were lax about pollution control, so between the fumes and dumping, lots of toxiticity - also 2nd to NJ in that respect.
In the mid 80s, one town, Barceloneta, had to be permanently evacuated because the ground was so laden with mercury, maybe lead, stuff like that. No one knew either about that till the evac because it was always denied. Tests were finally done after all the pressure from everyone getting sick.

Another town, Barcelona (minus the "-eta"), is in the mountanious area next to EL Yunque National Rainforest. Agent Orange was tested there without anyone knowing prior to using it in Viet Nam. Literally sprayed it around. My grandparents lived 2 houses away from the park entrance.

Tim robbins takes everyone hostage and has a fake bomb vest with C4. Cop is very skeptical and sarcastically says "C4, yea right, where'd u get it" Robins yells "New Jersey" , Cop smirk is quickly replaced by look of dred and says"Remain calm" lol... I have family there. its true lol .

No need to tell me about agent orange a pal and colleague of mine just died last week of that from cancer. Vietnam vet, health nut, very fit. gone 72, wulda made it to 100 i bet. Very sad,bad stuff.