Billboards put out by Planned "Parenthood"

I understand the debate on abortion but to brag about it. Disgusting.

It is a response to people saying its immoral and horrible. She is standing up for her rights, and doing it boldly because so many think she doesnt deserve it. She isn't bragging, but saying she wont apologize. She made bad decisions that led to having to get one, but she doesnt have to apologize to the millions of people who hate her as an immoral person now.

It's more attention seeking "brave" bullshit. No one cares about her irresponsible decisions that led to her deciding to get an abortion, nor do they care if she apologizes for it or not. She just wants to be oh so brave, look at me! It's like saying I can be 35 and unemployed, and collect welfare too! Yeay me! I think, for the most part, it's private personal business that no one wants to hear about, nor should it be talked about outside of your own personal circle. It's certainly nothing to be proud of.
I will never understand why these people suddenly feel like the world gives a shit. Or, their buddies that praise this nonsense, and call it "brave" to have an elective medical procedure. And, one that is born (bad pun not really intended) out of irresponsible behavior. Most people want to keep that private. It's like the whole world has flipped morals.

Your numerous vast walls of text sure look like you do.

Who's asking her to apologize? There's literally millions of women who have aborted babies. There only one person (or more, possibly) she should apologize to, and they're not here.

Imagine being not only an aborted baby but one who's mother appeared on a billboard, portraying it as a positive thing.

You're too smart not to get what I was saying. The key word is 'imagine'.

Now that there is some skilled shopping. The 2nd one, of course, because the 1st is real and the 2nd is art.

dave, the question is when the fetus becomes a human. is cutting your self and ripping out blood cells, or cumming on the sheets and putting it in the laundry killing humans

I believe it’s at conception. When that little spark occurs in the fertilized cell. Of course there is no separate life in the sperm or egg by themselves. That’s just silly. But just to be sure, 18 days is a good start...

I think the new discovery of the flash of light within the cell is pretty convincing. : )

Exactly. I’ve heard that when the first cells start dividing, they pulsate. And that pulsating turns into the heartbeat...

feeling pain doesnt mean you arent alive. you're life is being extinguished.

so you are okay with killing what you consider is alive? the real argument is when it is considered alive

It’s always more comfortable saying “terminating a pregnancy” than killing a life, right?

Me too. I would like to believe it’s fake...

Try to stay on topic. I noticed you attack Bible believing Christians whenever somebody id proving you wrong. Why?

What if you were a girl who was raped as a teenager? Would you want to be forced to give birth to your rapist's baby at a time when you are unable to properly care for a baby? I don't necessarily agree with the idea of abortion, either, but at the same time I don't want to throw a woman's rights out of the window.

The vast majority of abortions are just lazy, stupid people that would rather spark a life and end it than wrap a dick in a rubber.

There are exceptions to everything. If a woman gets raped she should immediately get that taken care of before the jumble of cells organizes into something human.

The abortion issue is about choosing responsibility over erasing mistakes.

Yes. I agree. But these lazy people should be controlled on what they want to do strictly by the govt. They made mistakes, why ruin their lives. It is about drawing the line of when a fetus is a life. I dont want no abortion, and I obviously dont want it up to 9 months. There is a place in the middle

Heart beats at 6 weeks. 1 month cutoffs imo.

Spark a life, take responsibility for it. If you're mature enough for sex, you need to be mature enough to take responsibility for the mistakes. It's extremely selfish of the parents to think of their own lives instead of the one they created. No sympathy for people that would take their child's life to make their own better.

Women should take a pregnancy test every two weeks if they are sexually active. Going to the store for tampons or pads? Buy two tests. That way they'll catch an unwanted pregnancy before there's any chance the cells have organized into a human.

Abortion solved.

An abortion at an early stage (which you are advocating) is still an abortion also.

Maybe you're right. Someone was talking about how scientists have seen a flash of light at conception. I'll have to look into that. No more dead humans for convenience.

Maybe I'm what?

You're such a brainless automated hack that you can't even recognize actual facts in your drivel of bs.

Flash of light? What, someone had a SEM up someone's uterus when they where getting laid? What does light even signify?

It's not unlikely. Women have had worse in their lady parts while getting laid. You, for example.

Oh, golly, he made a sanp about women who have partaken in me.

Perhaps there are some selfies of their innards doiung the deed for your perusal.

Aww f**k, I literally just ate some vanilla flavored yogurt, now I gotta spit real bad.

I'll upvote that, because it's true.

doing*

snap* partaken of*

Lack of sleep does wonders for my already bad spelling skills.....

There's a lesson in all this. Never use flashbulbs when engaging in coital acts.

HAHAHA

Not the most flattering pickup line but a win is a win I guess.

What about the woman that is taking birth control, and needs to switch, because the one she's on isn't made anymore... And the new one, doesn't work... But she doesn't know it, until it's too late? Or, the woman that tried a new form of b/c, and...shes part of that small percentage that it didn't work for? Transdermal was new years ago, and many women got pregnant on it. I believe they pulled it for few yrs, or at least a while, and I thought for good (I used to work in a pharmacy and heard many stories like this, and I felt awful for some of these women, they were all walks of life, & just not looking to start a family just yet for many different reasons), but I read recently that Transdermal b/c is still available.. I wouldn't recommend it though, yikes! Anyway, it's such a fine line when u start saying certain people can, but others can't.. Because not all of these situations fall under one, or the other (lazy VS victim), and then who is to decide these things? I also believe in absolutely having a cut off period (again, bad pun not intended). These partial ones are brutal.

Women really just need to get ballsy and tell men not to cum in them if they have any doubt that their bc will work. They should be using condoms when they have sex too. Prevention! Oops, I better kill my child is not an answer.

It comes down to education and propaganda. People are stupid idiots about sex, plain and simple. Schools and entertainment have trained them to be that way. People need to be taught safe sex and good practices in school (like prego tests twice a month).Hollywood also needs to start promoting safe sex in its films. People just drop their pants and start humping in movies and stupid kids grow up imitating that.

The whole culture of sex needs to change. Ignorance isn't working. Education and healthy brainwashing are the cure.

The people I was referring to were pretty responsible, been with their bf/fiance/husband for a while, some living together, but using b/c because they aren't financially, mentally or emotionally ready for a child, or never planned on having any... Which I was in this category for yrs, but matured, & changed my views on kids later than most, lol... And because of reasons beyond their control, got pregnant before they ever had the chance to plan it themselves. I'm not saying even the majority, but for the ones it does happen to, the responsible ones that were and are doing the right thing, and got pregnant regardless (also, women's bodies change and adjust, and the b/c that worked for you for the last 6 yrs, may not work anymore). It's not fair to them to lot them up w the irresponsible kids that just didn't suit up. It's just not so black and white. It would be nice if everything was clean cut down the middle, you are, or u aren't. That's probably why it's a "hot topic" and people are going to not agree for another thousand yrs. It just sucks that it's been that way and will continue to be bc it isn't so black and white, yes or no.

Not fair? Who said anything about it being fair? Is it fair to the unborn to have its entire life snatched away because they were inconvenient?

Get that "fair" stuff outa here.

Adults should be smart enough to wrap that dick in rubber or pull out regardless of the b/c. What kinda ronchie woman leaves a load in her after sex if she's not trying to get prego anyway? Squeeze that goop out and take a shower. Jeezus.

Lives are created and destroyed from nasty hygiene and you say it isn't fair.

Abortion is a very touchy subject. I believe that it should only be allowed in the situation above or for when the fetus is going to die regardless of whether or not it is aborted. It shouldn't be used as an alternative form of birth control, but those who have had abortions for the right reasons should not be demonized.

If only those were the reasons that abortions were happening.
" In 2014, approximately 19% of U.S. pregnancies (excluding spontaneous miscarriages) ended in abortion. "

almost 20% of pregnancies in the entire country aborted, and if the reasons given are similar across the board to what this survey found.. almost none of them were due to rape or health issues. They were killed because they were INCONVENIENT. This is what pro-life people want to end. Most anti-abortion people are willing to discuss letting abortions be legal in case of rape or for health reasons. That just simply isn't what abortion is being used for in the vast majority of cases, though. Millions of lives never lived all because mom thought it was too much trouble. It's tragic.

LOL you say 10,000 legitimate abortions somehow is more important than the 98% that are fully elective? If you're talking a pool of a hundred thousand, that is 98,000 murders in exchange for 2,000 legitimate abortions. Of course you'd think that is worth it, though. Be willing to outlaw elective abortion and I might take some of what you say seriously. That you ignore 98% to harp on the 2% makes any argument you make pretty absurd, tbh.

https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html

here's a couple source links, sorry. The top one basically summarises the bottom one

Slavery used to be legal. Should abolitionists have just figured "those slaveholders holding slaves is none of my business, and that's a fact. As long as they are within the bounds of the law, they can rape beat and murder as many people as they like." Your logic blows, sorry to say. The law is NOT the final arbiter of right and wrong. You hiding behind it to avoid having to make any rational arguments to defend your indefensible position is just a sign of your cowardice. Figures with someone as morally bankrupt as you, though.

If you continue to think 2,000 lives being easier outweighs 98,000 being ended, yes.

Abortion is circumstantial, it is not a black & white issue but rather it’s ugly shades of grey.

Exactly!

And that is most unfortunate.

Would you want her to know that the scum who did it to her was able to walk the streets again?
Rape and sexual assault perps don't get thrown in jail for life. And even if they do would you want tax money being spent on them to keep them alive?

Everyone is able to get rid of the baby in the case of a rape. But most of those soft cowards turn squeamish and pale at the thought of getting rid of the rapist.

Why keep him alive? Eventually he will serve his time and he will be set free. Do you want repeat offenders? Because that is how you get repeat offenders!

I say it should be law that every time a lady who was raped decides to abort her decision also decides the fate of the rapist. If she chooses to abort, the rapist is executed. Publicly and painfully.

Yikes... I'm not so sure I'd want to have to make that decision... For me, I'd take that plan b. That is still an available thing, isn't it? If so, I'd take that the minute I got to the hospital, and ask for seconds just to make sure. I just don't know how someone that's been through such a horrific ordeal, can then go through all the court proceedings to ensure justice is served, then have to live with the fact that they had to painfully and brutally put someone to death.... Me, personally, I'd have zero problem w it, but not all women feel that way, just to be clear.... Some women just aren't built that way. Others believe in forgiveness no matter the reason, and mentally wouldn't be able to live with that. What would that do to the victim that's already been through such a disgusting thing... I think it should be left to the judge or whatever,, and convicted rapists should never see the chance to ever do it again. Be it death, or castration (which, honestly, I haven't really looked into, but if rape is about power, they don't need a p**is for that... Think Brock turner is it? The digit rap*r.).

You also make a good point.

Lol, they censor certain w**ds here... I didn't know this... Even the more proper word for Mr. Richard was censored.. Lol, that's crazy.. Sorry, I would have used another word if I knew before hand...

"...to ensure justice is served, then have to live with the fact that they had to painfully and brutally put someone to death.... Me, personally, I'd have zero problem w it, but not all women feel that way, just to be clear.... Some women just aren't built that way. Others believe in forgiveness no matter the reason, and mentally wouldn't be able to live with that."

Have you ever even seen a woman in your life, let alone been out with one or gotten to know any?
Most would kill their own exes just so he won't replace her.

To argue that a woman would not have an abortion in order to protect the rapist that got her pregnant is the weirdest thing I have ever read on this site, and given the windup toy monkeys you can see on this thread, that's saying a lot.

Eh, it's weird, but it's not entirely untrue-- I know some girls who would hate to see a fly get hurt.

The reason rape is so difficult to prove in court is because of way back when some women would use the charge as a revenge against exes or as an excuse when they got caught cheating or got pregnant much to the chagrin of family, etc.

The same phenomenon occurred with the sexual harrasment band wagon that began in the late 80s and ended when feminists gave Clinton a pass over Lewinsky, and we're seeing it now with the Me Too movement of which some cases are false claims for similar reasons.

True.

You make a very good point and, although it may make me seem a bit harsh, I agree.