Where Democrats Are Leading You

See also: Police, firefighters, public schools and roads, utilities like sewage and garbage removal, etc.

Yup and that is why I got out after my 4 years was over. Didn't like being government property making much less than any civilian.

How do you know the person who made this meme supports socialized military? Maybe their a libertarian who wants everything privatized? You shouldn't assume so much :)

Fair enough.

healthcare that is of consistently lower quality, with higher wait times and worse organization overall, education that basically lets the government spread whatever propaganda it wants, and the government creating limitations on what consenting adults can agree to do with their time and money.

I don't need first-hand experience, just statistics. The US has a lower overall percentage of patient deaths than countries with socialized healthcare. The US has shorter average wait times than countries with socialized healthcare. Even Canada is starting to realize the value of privatized healthcare, and is starting to allow more of it.

Regarding your chart for life expectancy, that does not directly correlate to healthcare, the same way a statistic on patient mortality would. More likely than not, it is a result of American people having poor nutritional habits.

I'm not against people getting healthcare, education, and good working environments. In fact, I strongly support all three of those things. I disagree with socialism for both practical and principled reasons. Socialism is both immoral (due to being funded by involuntary payment, and relying on coercion and control), and idiotic (due to the economic calculation problem, among other reasons).

Entirely false. Canada is not starting to allow more of it. Some people are trying to allow more of it and they get consistently shot down because our healtchare system is amazing.

I'm not against people getting healthcare, education, and good working environments. In fact, I strongly support all three of those things. --- Well congratulations, you are a socialist.

Not gonna lie, you're pretty funny for a troll. I seriously don't know if you just didn't read the second half of that paragraph, or if you are willingly ignoring it.

Just in case I didn't make myself clear, I think that freedom is the best way to bring prosperity for all people. Socialism decreases freedom, and thus decreases prosperity. It is as simple as that. I oppose socialism because it eventually leads to people not getting the healthcare, education, and work environments that they need.

I already addressed the problem of personal experience. Thank you for making it abundantly clear that you are not looking for an intellectually honest discussion. I hope you at least got a good laugh out of this, and that people who read this thread will not be swayed by your ignorance

Yes you dont even have enough personal experience to know how important it is

I know how important personal experience is, but in this specific topic, statistics are more important. When looking at the overall results of a policy, individual experiences are likely to be fraught with biases and based on subjective opinions. I am more concerned with the objective results. I don't have to have first-hand experience with both systems to know that a statistically significant percentage of more moralities on the operating table or in the waiting room is a bad thing.

theft based on a false sense of legitimacy, and enforced with the threat of imprisonment. That sounds like coercion to me

Iaonsite. Yuo must answer my question, as it is of the upmost importance. Will you rise up as a nice guy gamer?

I dont even know what the f**k you are talking about.

Gamers are the most oppressed group in the world

Love it :)