It would be funny, if it were funny

I have grown to loathe mainstream news for this reason. If they spin it I don't want to hear it. I am always on the look out for unbiased news.

Me too. Unbiased, and I don't want to hear about shootings and horrible crimes all the time

I'm chinese and I don't find it offensive, I don't get it

Right, I taught English in Asia after college, was never offended by borrowed culture... well... except for how they all thought I loved SPAM... yeah...

Lmaoo

its because the leftists are using Asian people as a tool, the left are reascists

She got the dress in a vintage shop: Gently used, second-hand clothes. From the looks of it, it may have been a hostess dress at an Asian restaurant. That's about the only place I see where Chinese fashion is worn frequently. I see saris and hajibs here in the Midwest rural communities, but outside of the Chinese restaurants, no traditional Chinese clothing. Then, I don't go to the culture festivals, so I'd possibly see those there.

The dress was beautiful, as was the young woman that wore it.

This country is a melting pot of all cultures. Imagine if we didn't cross over and adopt some of those cultural artifacts from the myriad of other cultures. That's how melting pots work.

In Utah, it's hard to say how the dress ended up in a vintage shop. It looks pretty new. For all we know the original owner ordered it off Amazon. But to assume it belonged to a hostess in a Chinese restaurant is just... I don't even know where to begin responding to that one...

That may be a stretch, on the restaurant connection, but I don't have much interaction with Asians here in Indiana. We just move in different circles. Maybe if I lived in a larger city, but not here in this small one. The only time I've seen dresses like this were at some of the local Chinese restaurants that are more upscale. The hostess will wear the traditional clothes representative of China and the culture. Saris I started noticing back in '78 locally, but I rarely saw a hajib until after 9/11. This was just going into the local stores and such, seeing them in passing.

Since I didn't grow up around Asians, other than maybe some folks of Russian descent, I don't see traditional clothes often.

Fair enough. There are tons of Asians on the west coast so none of the restaurants I've seen use that as a uniform, maybe more upscale ones back in the day but not so much anymore.

Used to live next to a Vietnamese couple, but never got very friendly with them: not for lack of trying. My wife always complained about their cooking stinking up the building. A LOT of garlic. Me? I WANTED to become friends just to try their food. That's the closest I ever got to being around an Asian. I know, not Chinese, but that's as close as I could get.

Food is the international language. Yeah, some things I may raise an eyebrow about, but I'm usually willing to try most things. I've even tried my hand at making sweet and sour chicken and pork, although Chow Mein, I have to get from a can or restaurant. Now I'm getting hungry. Got a big bowl of rice in the fridge, some homemade sweet & sour sauce, and some chicken. I think I know what I'll have for supper.

I spent a few years working in an Italian restaurant, almost married one of their cooks. Yeah, I love garlic, too. Had to cut back on salt, so even my breakfast eggs get seasoned with garlic.

Eggs are no exception:))

First time I ever heard of it, I was in my early 20s. My sister showed me about that (the one that can cook) I use it in most things these days. I make my own seasoning: garlic powder, paprika, black pepper, onion powder, orgegano. Mix it all together and good stuff. If I ever get a food dehydrator, I'll use other veggies, and maybe even mushrooms for my seasoning.

I'll not try and pretend to be an optimist

Just kidding- I love personality as much as dat ass. Rihanna definitely would have a great personality, though.

Rhianna? Great personality? What?

I caught silicosis from your memes

I went to your memes and I had symptoms so bad it was like I drank too many spirits

I am from both an Asian and Catholic background. I know a lot of Asians who wouldn't find the prom dress offensive, but i know a lot of Catholics who would say Rihanna is going to hell.

Ha ha, and probably has nothing to do with her dressing like the pope

I remember asian-inspired shirts were extremely popular when I was in high school. But, so were short pleated kilt-like shirts. I wonder if people would be offended by the skirts today?

I heard that the usually translate to gibberish!

LOL

Ha ha! I used to make up meanings and tell their owner... When I was in Korea, I had a really nice co-worker that would wear a shirt saying "I do it all night long" or something, I had to tell her she shouldn't wear it, ha ha.

I know, if someone legit has a problem with that girl's Chinese dress, they are too sensitive to exist.

Right? Or work, or stay married, or raise decent children. It's scary

LOL

I'm of Irish decent. Anyone who wants to where a kilt or play the bagpipes is fine with me.......just.....just consider wearing underwear under it....

I'm of Irish descent, but completely American by culture. Met a man of African descent, raised in Ireland his whole life, for three generations... Who's Irish?

Yeah.. he is Irish. Just like African Americans are not African, they are American.

Most cultures know this, and do not take offense when people imitate their style of dress, or food, etc... Certain segments of the population in the United States however, thrive on drama and never miss a chance to start some.

No kidding. Especially when tastefully done. The girl's dress was beautiful

Ignorance is not flattery on any level...

Just wondering how wearing items or otherwise taking interest in other cultures makes one ignorant? I feel that choosing to live in an echo chamber and never venture outside that safe box to explore what other cultures wear, do, eat, ways of life etc... would be ignorant.

To embrace something unique to other cultures is not "appropriating". In order to "appropriate" you must be taking something that someone OWNS and use it without their permission. You do not "own" your culture. You are a part of it. I understand if someone takes parts of a culture to use in a way that insults or demeans the people within the culture. However, wearing a prom dress which is fashioned after Chinese style does not do that.

I didn't say cultural appropriation in and of itself makes someone ignorant, as long as they understand what they're doing is appropriation. Her posing with hands pressed together in a Thai greeting while wearing a Chinese cheongsam or qipao does display ignorance of the culture(s) she's appropriating. I, personally, think the dress looks great on her. I've never had a problem with it's appearance in western fashion trends. But call it what it is.

As an Asian-American growing up in the US, I've endured and seen other Asians endure a lot of racism and ignorance of our cultures, meanwhile watching those same people indulge in and "appreciate" them. Ridiculing Asians is the final frontier of accepted political incorrectness in this country.

Her pose was not independent. It was something the group was doing. Were she wearing some other dress would the pose then be as offensive to you? Also, how does the actions discussed here translate into ridicule?

Yes I know she said the pose was suggested by one of the other girls. Why do you think she suggested it? I would call what they were doing more mocking Asians than anything else. Whether it descended into all out ridicule I couldn't say. My comment was referring to ridicule in general of Asians.

Just wondering.

I'm not even going to try to figure out what that's all about :)))

The pose was a gag. It was in relation to a meme posted by Ethan Klein of H3H3 productions. His meme was making fun of a Papa Johns Pizza ad. So yeah. Speaking of ignorance. Assuming is one of the first actions of the ignorant.

Uh huh, yeah I heard that story back when it first happened. Whether that's true or not it's still quite a coincidence. Not sure how it absolves them of their ignorant behavior, though, but whatevs...

You asked WHY it was suggested. THAT is why. You choose to believe otherwise because you do not want to lose the only reason you have to remain offended. And that is your right. Carry on!

I don't think he's offended. I actually think he is just playing devils advocate. In this tread I've seen him make remarks that favor both sides of this issue. And even the comments I've disagreed with have been logical, thought provoking, and not from la la land (la la land is common in these debates).

I'm actually not offended at all. She looks cute, as does anyone who can fit into one of those (they're not the easiest things to wear because the material has virtually no give).

Look, neither of us were there to know for sure why they did what they did. Their behavior is suspect, that's all I'm saying. Why everyone is getting so offended by me taking an opposing viewpoint is beyond me...

No one is offended at your view point, however when someone answers your question with a solid answer and continue looking for ways to keep it going that's silly. Some people enjoy arguing. I know a few people who make a hobby of it. You may be one of those people. Totally your thing. And that's okay.

I am Asian American and you seem like an oversensitive fruitcake. Grow up. Not everything is motivated by prejudice. Though I am getting the impression YOU are.

Why are you so angry?

Because nonsense like you've been spouting is what CAUSES racism and racial divide in this country. Instead of accepting people of different colors or backgrounds adapting each others cultures, you seem to be absolutely offended that any sort of differences between us get blurred. I'm angry because you promote racism while claiming to be fighting it, and because it's a trend across the country. They bring up race every chance they get, then blame the people who don't for the races drifting farther apart.

I didn't start the trend. It's been here for 200 years. Utah, in particular, is one of the most racist states in the country. So this girl is getting an education in cultural sensitivity, which the US has been sorely lacking in as of late. Your desire to silence me with personal attacks is exactly what's been wrong with this country for a long time. The fact that you're Asian too only makes you an even bigger tool for doing it.

Utah is one of the least racist and welcoming states in the country. Take it from someone who lived there.