Defenseless or not

That's pretty sick. Next you'll be supporting child marriage.

Well in the kids defense, they are holding it safely. Not pointing at each other and their fingers are off the trigger.

You could say that about them holding hand grenades or a toxic nerve agent but the comment below believes that objecting to under 10s holding weapons is political correctness gone mad....

Ah... pragmatism... political correctness has hunted it almost to extinction

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I can make up random nonsense too.

Two of the states with the loosest gun laws, Alabama and Utah, also allow a girl to get married at 14.

The state with THE loosest gun laws, Arizona, does not.

That upends your whole theory, sorry.

Lol no it doesn't AT ALL. That's one state. I said "two of the states with the loosest gun laws...Alabama and Utah" That's two entire states of people who like guns and allow child marriage.

It demonstrates that you are making a non sequitur. There is no demonstrable connection between the two. If there were, Arizona and Texas would also have a low age of consent. They do not. Therefore, your argument is fallacious and invalid.

This would be analogous to saying; "NAMBLA is a homosexual organization that advocates pedophilia, therefore homosexuals are also pedophiles". That would be an obviously false conclusion based on a fallacious connection of facts unrelated to one another.

See, this is what people on the left like to do, take coincidental and unrelated facts and assemble them together to paint the false picture they wish people to see. The unfortunate part is, we've raised a generation of oatmeal-brained sheep that are mostly incapable of doing anything but eating what they are fed.

Dude, I just pointed out that two states with the loosest gun laws also allow child marriage. That's millions of people who like guns and allow pervs to marry children. It's a FACT. And in Utah, it's incestual as well. So yes, a lot of gun lovers also think child marriage is perfectly fine. Deal with it.

It's mind-boggling that you keep doubling down on the stupidity of that statement, but okay whatever. Have fun with your unrelated "facts".

Unrelated except happening in the same state, ok.

1. Those guns all look fake to me, like plastic toys.

2. My father taught me firearm safety and proper handling when I was 10 years old, the same year he bought me my first .22 rifle. I am proud to say that because of those lessons, I haven't accidentally shot anyone or anything with any of the many firearms I've owned in the intervening 40+ years.

Jamesv36 you get an upvote for your meme.

Very nice!

Thank you

Thank you too

So he takes her to a grave yard to see all the dead kids killed by guns in America. That kinda proves she would be better in a gun free society.

What he should really say is, 'darling you should move to Aus/NZ/Europe where people don't go into schools on a regular basis and kill kids. I know I'm all for big, bad guns but I'd cry like a baby if it ever happened to you. "

Ya really think that banning the sale and possession of guns will make a gun free society? Most of these shooters are suicidal maniacs who don't care how long their sentence is. The problem is we don't care about mental health whatsoever. If America started caring about mental health, I bet a lot of the problem will be solved.

You're imagining a he in the bottom photo. And Switzerland has almost zero gun deaths because all of them receive training when they do their part in mandatory military service. Americans have guns more than any other nation, but are 28th in gun crimes. What planet are you on?

If it ever happened to someone I loved, I would be demanding the shooter's head on a spike! I would want to beat him to a bloody pulp! I would want to rip his lungs out of his back and pour salt into the wound! I would want him to die a slow and very painful death!
I want that anyways and I didn't know the victims. But they were my fellow Americans, they were friends I haven't met yet.
I am so sick of everyone crying for liberties to be handed in when no one is demanding the killer's head! Why does no one want the shooter killed!!!!!

Well I guess wanting the shooter killed doesn't really solve the original problem and a lot of shooters are killed or kill themselves during a mass shooting episode.

I am convinced that these mass shooters are inspired by other mass shooters. They idolize each other and they are fascinated by each other. I first got this idea when reading Mind Fist by Dr. Haha Lung. It was about bullies and dealing with bullies but he also talked about mass shooters.

The Virginia Tech guy and the Columbine killers killed themselves. As well as that punk adam lanza. But here lately these guys have not been killing themselves. Perhaps it is because they have learned that they can get away with it...?
The guns will be blamed, not them. Mental illness will be blamed, not them. President Donald Trump will be blamed, not them. The NRA will be blamed, not them.
Why did the Aurora movie theatre shooter wear so much armor only to surrender to police? He didn't want to die.
That greasy slimeball dylan storm roof turned himself in like he was proud of his accomplishment.
The guy who shot up the Texas Church wanted to get away but he was shot by a civilian before he could. And in hot pursuit, knowing he couldn't get away, the coward killed himself. But I believe his intentions was to live.
And isn't the Florida School shooter alive as well?

At the school I went to (I graduated but my sister still goes there) there was a boy threatening to bring a gun and shoot a fellow class mate he wasn't getting along with. His threat came the day after the more recent school shooting. (Can't remember if it was the one in Florida or Kentucky. BTW The shooter from KY is alive too.)
It's like mass shootings have become a trend. And these guys know they can get away with it. And why shouldn't they? What have they got to fear for doing such a heinous deed?

I don't think any of them have got away with it that survived, most are looking at the rest of their lives in jail and the death penalty doesn't work as a deterrent. It has been shown in history it has not affected serious crime levels.

Anyway, whatever I say here will not change anything. Americans have decided to live with this level of gun violence and mass shootings. You'll spend money arming teachers and when one goes 'postal' you'll arm the janitors next or some such thing.....

I find it funny you completely ignored the comment about the Swiss or all the nation's with fewer guns but more gun crime. Avoiding facts?

So basically you want to tell me the probably is not the guns but Americans are mental mixed with stupid

Stupid enough to have walked on the moon unlike you savages. How's that UK space program going pal? We'll be on Mars before you fools even have a working launch vehicle and capsule, lol.

"The death penalty doesn't work as a deterrent."
Not the way we handle the death penalty. Trying to make is as "humane" as possible so all the bleeding hearts can feel good about themselves. And it takes soooo long to actually get around to executing someone. Plus I have heard that some people get off death row. But I don't know too much about that. In any case our current death penalty is a joke.

As far as history backing up your claim, I don't know enough about history and crimes to argue that one. I would have to go back to medieval and much earlier times to tell if it made a significant difference. From what little I do know I thought burning accused witches at the stakes done a lot to prevent the practice of heresy/witchcraft or whatever it's called.

But history can prove what happens to an unarmed people. And I do know a few examples to back up that statement.

What I say here will not change anything either. I am as infuriated about these mass shootings as much as anyone else. Only I do not like what the protesters are demanding. I do not think it is fair to the millions of law abiding gun owners to have to turn in their guns because a small percent of the population is nutcases. If there was a way to weed them out, that would be great.

I also do not like the idea of arming teachers. I think a solution can be found without the banning of guns or the arming of teachers. Besides what you said about teachers going postal, students could find it and do the same thing. And if it is locked away sufficiently to prevent a kid from getting it, I believe that would render the gun obsolete in the event of a shooting. I don't think arming teachers will work.

Iranian executes 1000 people a year, if it made any difference you would expect the figure to come down. Same goes for China.

The major problem with the death penalty is when you find out you made a mistake, you can't bring the person back. That's what happened in a lot of European countries and they decided that it's best to jail someone for life for murder rather than execute innocent people.

"I don't think any have got away with it that survived and most are looking at the rest of their lives in jail."
I forgot to address this point earlier, sorry. (Been loading hay all day and I am rather tired and not thinking as sharp as normally, which isn't all that sharp anyways XD

I don't think these guys will give an iota about going to jail. They will probably regard it as a party and that they will be feared and respected by other lesser known criminals in there. And they will be looking forward to bragging about their stack of kills among the other "greats" behind bars.

You may not find this story relevant but I think it speaks volume to the mindset of today's youth.
My sister has a friend (well former friend now she doesn't really hang around my sister anymore) who said she is now an atheist. And she said she is not concerned about Hell and that Hell will be just a big party. And her parents are church going Christians, I am sure she has had quite a vivid description of what hell will be like.

My point with that story is that people today, especially the younger generation, have no concern with abstract consequences. If the idea of Hell isn't enough to scare a teen into remaining true to their faith, what significance will the idea of jail time have on mass shooters? Especially if jail is as good as what I hear, they will not be phased by the thought of jail at all.
Now if jail was harsh brutal and they are able to see it with their own eyes, then that might make a difference. That is why I am throwing out my idea of a painful execution for people to witness. That way it will have much more impact on them.

Well Hell doesn't exist but if it did the first people who should be candidates are those adults that tell kids if they don't do what they say they are going to hell. That is psychological child abuse.