Philosoraptor

Ok, but those attacks had NOTHING to do with Atheism.

as in "we're declaring war on you because of our atheistic beliefs"? The USSR presented itself as an atheistic nation and one would have to surmise that it had some effect on it's policy of killing millions. (see Cambodia) Although it really is an easy out to support your assertion because very few countries have adopted "atheism" as the state policy except the aforementioned and they were quite adept in killing. So technically you might have a point, however I would not crow about it given the track record of "atheists". PS. Most wars in history were economically based.

The USSR presented itself as a communist nation, not an atheist one.

read the communist manifesto, atheism is a key tenet to communism and is necessary to achieve the communist state. there can be no god, but only the state

So it's not possible for a Christian Communist?

not if you adhere to the manifesto. that's why they prohibit the importation of bibles and jail missionaries. read "God's Smuggler", it is a real life account.

That was most likely Communist Russia, or the Soviet Union, where we get our basis for communism from. Not all atheists fight for communism; we can't base the actions of a few as a motivation to attack the all.

I didn't say that all anybody does anything.

Good. :)

Just because somebody doesn't believe in God doesn't automatically mean they're gonna start wars or commit crimes.

not what I said. not all atheists are going to automatically start wars, but some have caused some real death, so bragging that they "never started a war" is not a convincing argument.

But saying they started wars because of their Atheism is a bit much.

I did not say that

You implied it.

I did not. You inferred it. What I am saying is that the virtue signaling of the initial post is misleading. Countries that are officially atheistic (re: USSR, Cambodia) have fought aggressive wars and killed millions of their own people. They have never announced "we are fighting in the name of atheism", but the damage remains and the claim that no wars were fought in "the name of atheism" while it may be technically correct rings hollow.

No I didn't. Atheist countries are NOT gonna become warmongers. Your claim that Atheist countries are aggressive and murderous is both untrue and stupid.

Prove me wrong.

"Atheist countries are NOT gonna become warmongers. Your claim that Atheist countries are aggressive and murderous is both untrue and stupid."

Just wait until a few jihads get called on these Atheist countries. They will either have to defend themselves. Like Europe did with the Crusades. Or they will be killed / forced to submit to allah. And then you will have people bashing said Atheist country for attacking the poor Islamic countries. Because people today have a thing for defending jihads. Never mind the fact that said Atheist country would just be defending itself.

That is what happened with Europe. And you see how shallow people are in regards to the Crusades.

Whoever told u that is a liar

i don't think you understand the phrase

Not to mention the war on Christians and whatever else China has waged on its citizenry.

And as Larry mentioned, Iron Curtain, Eastern Europe, USSR ring any bells?
Cambodia made for a nice holiday too.

The notion that wars are fought in the name of any religion is erroneous and naive.
While political leaders and goverments may stoke the feelings of such in order to rally the masses, religion is rarely, if ever, the actual cause of wars. Even in the past with the Crusades, Spain expelling the Moors, etc, the real issue was territorial expansion and consolidation.

The initial bloody spread by the sword of Islam is one exception, but even self-professed Muslim fundamentalist terrorist organiztions today such as Al Queda, the Taliban, and ISIL are more about the usual power grab and sphere of influence. The ones in control are about as religious as Charles Manson.

The claim was, no wars were fought in the NAME of atheism. When a religion is invoked to justify a war, that war is fought in the NAME of that religion. Remove the religion from the picture, politicians would have to find some other excuse for why we need to go to war.

Ahh, so the deliberate erasing of Tibet - what was the world's last classical theocracy - and attempts at extripating Uyghur Muslims by atheist China is not what it is?

There are 54 other ethnicities in China, why isn't the goverment trying to eradicate them?

And if you need a refresher course in USSR history and policy, then you might as well not bother.

Wars are fought for:
Greed
&
To attempt to rebuff such an incursion.

There is always a cause attached to some sort of ideology. Ask Trump & the Trumpites, ask Kim Jung-un and his minions. Heck, ask any Justin Bieber fan. Them girlz are crazy.

None of those wars were fought in the NAME of Atheism.

Religions are often used as excuses for fighting wars. Though I agree with you that the underlying causes are usually just power-lust, and that this or that deity is just being used as "justification".

Mind you, I have no problem with faith. People are welcome to believe in Jehova, Allah, ghosts, gremlins or little green men from Mars, as long as they don't harm others.

But organized religion is dangerous, because it allows a self-appointed and self-aggrandizing priesthood to claim power in the name of some higher being which they claim to have a monopoly on, and then claim that to go against their will would be to go against the will of the "Almighty".

Those are ongoing campaigns. And yes, they are being carried in the name of atheism, which is what the Communist State 'religion' is (an ism is an ism. Need I explain that to someone as devout as you?). Being the land which is home to a LIVING Bhuddist diety, the Dalai Lama (skip the, they ain't got Gods jive), is a VERY BIG deal to Bejing, and ditto for the restive Muslim populace in Uyghurstan. Eliminate those religions, and fidelity is steered more completely to the state.

They are welcome to do so? How magnanimous of you. Heck, I might adopt a religion again now that I have your permission.

Organized religion gives people structure, a common morality, the roots of society, culture. You think this world is bad with it? Imagine humans WITHOUT it.
The need for religiosity may be instinctual, a behavior which increased the survivability of ancient groups via the altruism and strivng for a greater good it confers. Why do you think you are so zealous in this 'non-faith' faith of yours and the need to convert the masses to its saving graces? Same dance, different drummer.

Communists do NOT represent Atheism. That's like if I was to say Martin Luther King carried his campaign in the name of black supremacy.

Believing on God doesn't automatically make you moral or good. You don't need a deity to do good things.

Says who, you?
That's what they are, deal with it.

The same can be said of murderers and those who start wars who happened to have a religious affiliation - even more so since how they act is contary to the admonishments of their religion.

Again, China's campaign against Bhuddist Tibet and Islamic Uyghurstan is SOLELY based on their religion of choice. Adopt the state official religion of atheISM, and they shall be left in peace.

This needless repetition of you are pretending to be too dimwitted to comprehend is beginning to bore me a lot.

Toodles. I'm done.

of what* you are pretending

No it's not. Communist =/= Atheist. Communists DO NOT represent Atheism, nor vice versa.

You don't need to lack a deity to be able to do bad things, and you don't need to have a deity to do good things.

China is a Buddhist country, dumbass....

Excuse me, but I'm not the one who insists Atheism and Communism go hand in hand, and that Communists started wars in the name of Atheism.

You need to do some research because your glaring idiocy isn't exactly dissipating no matter how much more idiocy you pile on it.

Confucianism & Taoism ring any bells?
Mao Tse Tung & the Cultural Revolution?
Marx & Religion is the opium of the people?

Communist =/= Atheist? Who said that?
Communist = Communist
Atheist = Atheist

All German Shepards are dogs, but not all dogs are German Shepards, mkay?
Or do you need me to explain basic diction to you with crayons also?

Excuse me, but I'm not the one who insists on calling Atheists Communists.

Is that seriously the best you can come up with?

You seem to have this demented mentality that Communism and Atheism are one in the same.

Says the guy who thinks Communists represent Atheism as a whole.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Read a book, you massive hemmorhoid of a f**ktard.

Why don't you take your own advice?

Don't have to. I already know it. Which is why I told it.
So git ta readin that book, dimwit.

I'm not putting anything in your mouth. This whole thing is on YOU and you alone.

Yes, it is. So STFU.

I'm not the one who needs to read a book, you are.

Look below.
Hit the wrong reply.

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Those people are not representative of Atheists or Atheism.

How is that? Not only are they atheists, their personal history with such and their impact on the history of it are well studied and documented. I take you never studied the subject?

In case you haven't noticed, atheISM isn't. It's rarely about logic, and more about anger. I've never met anyone who believed in God than a so-called atheist, because with them, this shitz personal. Hence the zealotry, the need to kill God (yet not the other Gods, huh?) - it's called revenge.

They're only 4 out of at most 500,000 non-believers, excluding Adolf Hitler, who was a Christian.

"In case you haven't noticed, atheISM isn't. It's rarely about logic, and more about anger. "
As goes with religion.

Hitler was a Germanic Pagan.

They ARE atheists, nonetheless (or especially so), and of significance and position to exterminate MILLIONS that weren't.
- Just like any other RELIGIOUS zealout.

So in other words, yes four, but those are four of the 'GREATS' in the atheist Hall of Game.

The rest of the 'saved' flotsam are a bunch of insignificant ignoramuses that toe the party line but haven't the knowledge or ability to understand or make an impact in anything other than their toilet seat.

Like in anything, the shapers of history shape history while the nobodies are nobody.

Hitler was a Christian lol. You're a f**king retard.

Your misguided presumption that everyone is as ignorant as you will yourself to be neither changes facts nor wins you any arguments.

was a*

Cue misinformed meme...some day when your old sitting in your death bed I want tou.to remember me.

Now now, don't be hard on the lad. He's an atheist, and all atheists are so super duperity smart, they can dispense with facts.

Ok well, Stalin didn't kill people because he was an Atheist, he killed because he was paranoid and wanted to keep his country under control through threat of death. Communism and Atheism DO NOT go hand in hand.

That is a misconception. Atheists are just like everybody else, except for the fact that they don't believe in deities. People are both good and bad, whether they believe in a God or not.

But the religious, ones do.