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Matrix Morpheus Meme | WHAT IF I TOLD YOU; CHRISTIANS, JEWS, AND MUSLIMS ALL BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD | image tagged in memes,matrix morpheus,christianity,judaism,islam,god | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 7y,
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I would tell you to study comparative religion and what the James White Yasir Qadhi dialogue. These Christian and Muslim scholars will correct that notion and let you know that what they believe is mutually exclusive.
3 ups, 7y,
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All 3 religions believe in the prophets Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
2 ups, 7y,
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jesus ??
3 ups, 7y
Exactly.
2 ups, 7y,
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3 ups, 7y,
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Excuse me?
2 ups, 7y,
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The "everywhere" applies mostly to the comment section but also to your original meme.
You keep saying that these groups "believe in the same god" which is demonstrably false.
If you say they believe in the same god because they all believe in "the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob" that is like a "bait and switch" or equivocation fallacy.
That statement is totally fallacious to those who understand theology and what these groups believe about the deity they worship and recognize the importance of drawing theological distinctions.

While all three are monotheistic in their beliefs there is a fundamental difference in the nature and being of what each group believes in.
Can you define 'monotheism' or explain the difference between "unitarian monotheism" and "trinitarian monotheism"? These are all terms and subjects you can look up and become knowledgeable about.

For an atheist the distinctions in the nature of the supposed deity may be irrelevant but if you would take time to learn about these things it may keep you from making sweeping generalizations and category errors and believers would be more willing to listen to your arguments.
3 ups, 7y,
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They still believe in the same God, even if they do teach him differently.

If you really were smart like you say you are, you'd know the God of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam is Yahweh.

But Christians, Jews, AND Muslims DO believe in the same God. The only difference is how they teach him.
2 ups, 7y,
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You don't actually interact with my argument, you just keep repeating the same thing over and over. Just because you repeat something over and over does not make it true.
If it were actually true you could interact with my argument and show logically how what you are saying is true.
Let me guess your response: ad nauseam ad infinitum
1 up, 7y
You can chuck in all the cute theogical angels-on-a-head-of-a-pin Biblical studies quotes you want ad ?, but that doesn't change the fact that the three major Abrahamic religions worship the Abrahamic God, hence why they are called Abrahamic.
In fact, as horrible as recent events have been on ALL sides (as well as the past), Islam is closer to traditional Judaism than Christianity in terms of commandments followed and culture.

Yes, all three religions have gone on divergent paths, but the origin is not in dispute.
1 up, 7y,
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You just don't get it, do you?
1 up, 7y,
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You don't have to interact with my argument that you are making an equivocation, sweeping generalization, category error, and ad nauseam argument. You don't have to interact with the theological aspect of my argument (which you purport to know about because you are making claims about that subject.)
I "get" the fallacious nature of your argument and I "get" the theologically erroneous nature of your argument. Am I missing something else?

I also get the biblical position on the nature of God and how that relates to idol worshipers. So if you are willing to admit that there is only One True God, I will admit that monotheists like Muslims and others who are wrong about the being and person of God are ignorantly attempting to worship the One True God. They do *not* believe in the One True God because they do not have confidence in His person nor do they have faith in what He has said; they do not consent to any of that but have tried to change it to their liking. Jews do not even consent to His final revelation of Himself in the person of Jesus Christ.
Please tell me what I don't "get" because you don't seem to "get" the actual biblical Christian position.
0 ups, 7y
None of the messiahs were the son of any God.
Nephilim are. Or maybe they are the sons of the Hebrew Gods who visited themselves upon human women. Well, you know the story.

You STILL keep resorting to logical fallacies form without plugging in any verifiable content.
Your arguments are therefore as hollow as your 'knolwedge' as well as your faith.
1 up, 7y
"You don't have to interact with my argument that you are making an equivocation, sweeping generalization" I'm not making ANY generalizations. It's YOU who is making generalizations.
"I "get" the fallacious nature of your argument" What 'fallacious nature'?
"I "get" the theologically erroneous nature of your argument" What 'theologically erroneous nature'?
"So if you are willing to admit that there is only One True God, I will admit that monotheists like Muslims and others who are wrong about the being and person of God are ignorantly attempting to worship the One True God" Except there is no god at all.
"They do *not* believe in the One True God because they do not have confidence in His person nor do they have faith in what He has said" Uh, yes they do.
"they do not consent to any of that but have tried to change it to their liking" Uh, no they didn't.
"Jews do not even consent to His final revelation of Himself in the person of Jesus Christ" Still believe in the Messiah.
"Please tell me what I don't "get" because you don't seem to "get" the actual biblical Christian position" I know religion better than you think I do, and I know it better than you think you do.
1 up, 7y,
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Or at least in the case of Muslims at one point it was the same probably the split between Judaism and Islam came when Abrahams two sons whose names I can't remember each took different parts of the religion their father taught and made their own religions
2 ups, 7y,
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Well they still believe in the same God regardless.
1 up, 7y,
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Muslims murder in the name of Allah. Does Allah want to kill his own followers? (No, because he isn't real)
2 ups, 7y,
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One, Allah just means God in Arabic, and two, Christians AND Jews have murdered eachother too, as well as murdering Muslims.
2 ups, 7y,
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and the christains have murdered tons of people not in any ie. the Crusades
2 ups, 7y,
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And don't forget Vlad the Impaler.
2 ups, 7y,
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From Dracula untold?
2 ups, 7y,
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History
1 up, 7y,
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k pretty sure dracula's name in dracula untold as vlad the impaler
2 ups, 7y,
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Still though
0 ups, 7y
It was reported that he impaled people, but who knows how much is distortion by enemies.
1 up, 7y,
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Propaganda from Vlad Dracul's contempary enemies did refer` to him as Vlad the Imapaler.
1 up, 7y
Is it really a surprise that Vlad would become known as Vlad the Impaler? I mean, he did impale people in the name of his god.
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0 ups, 7y,
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2 ups, 7y,
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One, being an Atheist doesn't make me biased, two, both the Bible and the Quran mention Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so, the god of Christianity and the god of Islam ARE, in fact, the same god, and three, the Bible is the ONLY thing Christians ever wanna use when trying to prove their point.
0 ups, 7y,
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No, the God of Christianity and the God of Islam are not the same. First of all, the God of Christianity is a Trinity where the God of Islam is not. The Trinity is the monotheistic teaching that God exists eternally as three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
1 up, 7y,
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Muslims believe in the prophets Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
0 ups, 7y
Correct
1 up, 7y,
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Muslims believe in Jesus
0 ups, 7y
They do.
They also believe he was NOT the son of God. Christians believe he WAS the son of their God.
Islam believes in Mohammed being the messager of God.
There for NOT the same God.
Two reasons it's not the same.
Three if you count my trinity comment.
1 up, 7y
I'm not excusing terrorists, but it is kinda a matter of perspective, yes?
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