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Don't kid yourself | ALL OF THESE GUYS WERE PEACEFUL MUSLIMS UNTIL THEIR PLANES TOOK OFF ON 9-11 | image tagged in 9-11 hijackers | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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12 ups, 1 reply
And yet none of them were from any of the countries from which president Trump-Bannon banned travel...Interesting how Trump-Bannon didn't include their countries in the ban...
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11 ups, 2 replies
You're repeating yourself and your argument is ridiculous. You would be complaining more if additional countries were on the list. The seven countries in question were the same listed as 'countries of concern' by obama. So seriously give the hypocrisy a rest, man.
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11 ups, 1 reply
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7 ups, 3 replies
I love how everyone knee-jerks with calling anyone who disagrees a liberal and name calls. For your information I have served on the leadership of four conservative GOP presidential campaigns, been involved in countless congressional and state races for constitutional conservatives, including running the US Senate campaign of constitutional conservative Bill Connor in an effort to oust RINO Lindsey Graham in 2014. I served as a county officer, county and state delegate in the GOP from 2011-2017. I attended the first tea party in the nation on the banks of the Reedy River in 2009, was in Washington 9-12-09 and have been involved in countless other tea party and conservative efforts. Just because someone disagrees doesn't make them a liberal. Just because Obama may have done the same things doesn't make it right when someone with a R in front of their name does it. My point is there's no logic or consistency in Trump-Bannon's executive order.
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8 ups
There's absolutely logic behind the order. Those 7 countries were identified as terrorist hotbeds.

If you were truly there for the beginning of the tea party, you would like Trump since the tea party populist movement is what he's all about. Maybe you don't have a problem with all the refugee attacks in Europe, but I do.

Ron Paul and Rand support him, why not you?
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7 ups, 1 reply
That comment you just left there really reminded me of
"What the f**k did you just f**king say about me, you little b**ch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f**k out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f**king words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, f**ker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f**king dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f**king tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you go***mn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f**king dead, kiddo."
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6 ups, 1 reply
Harsh enough?
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8 ups, 1 reply
That's a Reddit copypasta.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Dear God, had me worried there.
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5 ups
That's why I started it off with "that comment you just left there reminded me of"
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4 ups, 1 reply
I stand by trump. Because he stands with us.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I can no longer see the comment you replied to, so responding to this one instead. Was kidding about being in trouble, but Octavia tells me he is neither of the things you suggested. ;-)
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1 up
who knows which is which and who is who
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2 ups, 1 reply
What's ridiculous is that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan aren't on the list. To say they were a concern to Obama is moot. He didn't ban immigration from those countries. And considering the over two thousand attacks by Saudis, it just amazes me anyone can defend the glaring holes on the list.
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0 ups
I agree 100%. If I could put in a muslim ban, I would and those two countries would be number 1 and 2 on my list. But again, if they were, the reaction to the supposed ban would be not one iota different.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Did every Muslim on 9/11 cheer that the white man was being destroyed? What about the Muslims in America whom's family members were being killed in the fire?
Also, that's a lot of Muslims, and I remember only 3-4 planes being hijacked in 9/11.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Not everyone to be sure, but lots of them. Just because America opens it heart to people around the world, doesn't make it a requirement that every person who wants to come here has the right to. We should treat America like something special, not a third world boarding house. If you want to come here it should be because you love the idea of being an American, not because you want to come here and reshape our country into the hellhole you just arrived from.
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5 ups, 3 replies
How do you know lots of them cheered? If America is the Land of the Free, then why is she allowing someone to grasp her by the p*ssy and close the doors on everyone else? A five year-old child was separated from his mother, and was brought back several hours later in an airport.
I don't think the refugees want America to be the hellhole where they come from, otherwise what is the point of escaping?
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4 ups, 1 reply
Well, first off I remember them cheering on the news back then and beyond that, you might have missed it in the hubbub, but the whole Serge Kovaleski/Trump beef, which was played off as Trump making fun of a disabled guy, was actually regarding Trump saying that 'thousands of muslims' were cheering. Kovaleski challenged it, Trump was roundly excoriated in the press, but eventually proven correct, but they never cover that like they do saying he did a bad bad thing. They were cheering on rooftops in New Jersey, FBI watched it as they were monitoring those apartments already known as hotbeds of jihadi activity. Add to that the thousands cheering world wide, in Palestine, in Pakistan, etc. And please spare me the grab the pussy stuff. Only so much theater for the masses. Recreating where they came from? Check out Dearborn, MI.
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5 ups, 3 replies
Which news source? I don't trust the major news sources of CNN, FOX, and NBC. Very shady in my opinion; a bunch of old guys talking about issues in a twisted manner. YEESH! The real news would be what their 3-letted names mean. I could rant about the media all day, all I like.. o_O
There was a woman on a TED talk I watched who was Muslim, and didn't like the 9-11 aftermath. She was impacted by the people who say they hate Muslims. Although the TED talk wasn't about her being Muslim, she briefly went over it.
What about the ones who weren't cheering? Should we judge them as well? Does Dearborn, MI represent all of the people who follow the religion of Islam? Or should we continue allowing Trump's executive to take all of America's freedom and split them among themselves, none to spare for the rest?
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2 ups
Of course nothing represents 'all of anything.' That said, just because some muslims weren't cheering doesn't mean we need to flood our country with a hodgepodge of those who may love it here and those who don't. That is the purpose of borders, immigration policy and vetting.

You obviously have a computer, you can investigate it just like I did if you choose. I suspect you would find fault with any sourcing I provide.
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0 ups, 1 reply
This was Shephard Smith on Fox News on 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-p1LEBAujE
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1 up
I don't trust FOX news, or any Media Outlet with those shady acronyms.
However, I'll have to view later..
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4 ups, 1 reply
Furthering islam by jihad at any costs is the goal.
Your just to naive to see that.
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4 ups
Do all Muslims think that?
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0 ups
When the Twin Towers were brought down, there was film of people in Tehran and Baghdad dancing and celebrating. It was on the evening news
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9 ups, 1 reply
I don't mean to troll, but...
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7 ups, 1 reply
Troll away, my friend. I had to research your image to figure out what it was referencing. I think your premise is a false equivalence. Remind of the last time a 'refugee' of any religion came to the USA to execute an abortion clinic bombing. Furthermore, the people on the airplanes and in the towers and the pentagon, and the victims of the Boston bombings, San Bernadino, the Pulse nightclub were simply out living their lives, they weren't in the process of causing harm to another living being. I am not condoning bombing a clinic, it's abhorrent, but read what goes on in these so called 'medical facilities.' Google Kermit Gosnell, he's a great place to start.
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10 ups, 4 replies
Moving the goalposts, are we? A bombing is a bombing. It doesn't matter if a Christian came here from overseas to carry out the bombing, or if they already lived here.

Second, it actually does sound like you're blaming the victims. "If they weren't at an abortion clinic they wouldn't have been killed/injured". It's reprehensible to do that. Getting an abortion is legal. Blowing up an abortion clinic is not.

Saying that Kermit Gosnell represents the abortion-providing community is just as flawed as saying the 9/11 hijackers represent Islam. Yet I'm sure you would say that abortion clinic bomber doesn't represent Christianity.
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7 ups, 2 replies
Not moving the goalpost at all. And of course it matters whether they were here to begin or whether they were brought here because of obama's irresponsible policies. If you have broken pipe in the basement and water coming in through the upstairs windows because it's storming outside, do you just say, well don't bother closing the windows because the basement is already wet? Trump just got elected and one of the reasons was national security. His job, not yours, my friend. The president has the authority and the responsibility to assess the situation and make what calls he deems necessary for the security of the country. Furthermore, I said Kermit Gosnell was a good place to begin an investigation and he is most certainly is. As with so many situations in our country, considerations were made in terms of abortions in order to preclude the dangers of back alley abortionists. The idea was that if the were brought out of the shadows they would be made safe, legal and rare. 3,000 a day, including on demand and at full term was hardly the intent and hardly fits that definition. If legal abortion becomes the same horror we were trying to prevent, what have we accomplished?
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7 ups, 3 replies
I see your point. Abortion is safer now than it was when it was illegal. Is it perfect? No, neither is any other medical procedure. What Kermit Gosnell did was illegal and reprehensible, and I believe he belongs in prison for life.

Just because the president has the authority to make decisions about immigration and national security, that doesn't automatically make those decisions right. Remember the internment of Japanese-Americans during WW2? Many of them were born here, and they were still treated like dangerous criminals. I believe that immigrants and refugees should be vetted for safety reasons, but not barred wholesale just because they happen to be born into a certain country (which was 100% out of their control). I also abhor giving one group (like Christians) special priority over another. Is the life of a persecuted minority Christian worth more than the life of a persecuted minority Muslim? If a building was on fire, would you only let Christians out first? Of course not.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Forgive me for falling prey to imgflp shennanigens. Where I live we have an openly gay congressman who regularly proclaims his intent to register as muslim and sees not the slightest bit of the stupidity of his comments. I'm well aware of the internment camps of WWII, you will likely recall they were established under a widely loved Democrat president. Trump isn't and never has expressed any intent to do anything similar. Enforcing our border security is the responsibility of the government. It has been widely promised by both Ds and Rs for years as campaign rhetoric and routinely tossed on the dustbin post election. It is also one of the primary functions of the federal government and Trump's promise to make it a priority is one of the many reasons he was elected. Just because a sizable portion of people have now been convinced that America should have no borders whatsoever doesn't make that correct either. Trump faces a multitude of issues, but I think an American president putting America first is a good starting point.
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6 ups, 1 reply
There are gay Muslims, though they may not be very open about it. Just like there are gay Jews, gay Christians and gay everything else.

I didn't know the president that interned the Japanese was Democrat, but that was pre-Southern Strategy anyways.

I'm not really against a border wall. I support legal immigration and oppose illegal immigration. I was referring more to the overseas refugees and immigrants from the 7 countries on that list.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Of course there are gay Muslims it's never been a choice, but they best not be open about it in islamic countries as all they will find is a quick and brutal death. Hence the irony of openly gay congressman married to a man claiming he will become a muslim in protest. Were they to fly to Tehran and say 'we're here, we're queer sign us up' they would put ropes around their necks and swing them from the highest crane in the city.

On Trump's immigration orders: it's 7 countries with sketchy governments, for 90 days, in order to allow vetting processes to be established. Under Obama, vetting was a joke, and these are the same counties identified by Obama as 'countries of concern.' Trump's orders include allowances for particular cases including a baby traveling to the US for emergency surgery. Nothing drastic in the slightest. It sounds as though you would prefer he sit quietly in the oval office with his hands in his lap for 4 years.

FDR was the president when camps were opened. A true blue Democrat political legend. Earl Warren, later to be a chief justice of the Supreme Court was the Governor of California, home to the biggest camps of all. As you were unaware of the president at the time, you are likely unaware that they were not just for Japanese. Germans and Italians were also interred although to a lesser extent. A shameful part of American history perhaps, but one you could fully understand if you lived through the times.

Part of the frustration of Trump voters is so many anti-trump protesters talk about camps and Nazis and KKK and have virtually no historical knowledge to back it up. The last known Klansman to hold national political office was a Democrat, Senator Robert Byrd, Hillary Clinton called him her mentor in the senate, but I didn't hear that reported while wholly unfounded allegations of white supremacy were thrown continuously against Trump.

I urge everyone to stop buying into the pictures painted by the mainstream media to sway public opinion, they are an unofficial arm of the Democratic party.
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3 ups, 1 reply
If I were gay, there are many parts of this country where I wouldn't announce it out for fear for my safety. And you know what? Those parts are predominantly in the Bible Belt. Radical Islam is hostile to gay people, but radical Christians aren't much better.

Do you really think after 90 days, the gov't will be any closer to a vetting system that satisfies them? Or will they push it back another 90 days? Or 180? Or a year? It wouldn't surprise me if they drag their feet on this vetting system because they don't care to get it done.

I was aware that some German-Americans were put into internment camps. And those camps became a hotbed of Nazi sympathizers. One of the Japanese internment camps was Manzanar in California. I drive past it on US Highway 395 when I take loads from SoCal up to Reno. It's an historic site now.
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1 up
As there are plenty of 'peaceful' anti-Trump protests where I wouldn't wear a MAGA hat.

I honestly don't care what anyone's religion or orientation is. All I know is we all ready have 14 kinds of hell ready to explode in the USA and we don't need to import unlimited quantities more from Sandland.
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6 ups, 1 reply
That comment was completely irrelevant.
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2 ups, 1 reply
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1 up, 1 reply
I'm aware he wasn't talking about Trump.
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2 ups, 1 reply
If you think about it, it was worse for the Jews in Nazi Germany. Transgenders are banned from entering predominantly Muslim countries just because they are Transgender. 90,000 Christians were killed in 2016. White men are constantly attacked and abused for being white, and that is completely out of their control. Do you like having your own techniques used against you? No, you probably don't. You know babies can't control whether you want them alive or not. I don't care if it's your body, It's not your life. I'm just listing many things you forget about when attacking conservatives for not wanting a law to be enforced.
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2 ups
The law I am naming is the law that says you have to have a license to live in America. You cannot make me feel bad for people who illegally cross our border and fail. Keep trying to make me feel bad for people who everyone wants to save, and now I as a white male feel unsafe in my daily life. Congratulations
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1 up, 1 reply
Hey, Natalie, you got me in trouble ;-)
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1 up
Trouble?
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3 ups, 2 replies
Thank you, Natalie. A gay muslim? LOL! He should consider himself lucky his head is still sitting atop his shoulders!
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10 ups, 1 reply
Natalie has no idea what the hell she's saying. I'm not gay or Muslim, and I've never said that I am. Please check with the person in question before believing random stuff like that, ejected haphazardly from the face holes of people who don't know what they're talking about.
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8 ups, 2 replies
key word: fundamentalist
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3 ups, 1 reply
The violent Muslims are following the Quran and wishes of muhammed.

An actual Christian would never call another Christian a heretic for being peaceful because the bible doesn't say you have to be violent to spread Christianity. The Quran does.
4 ups
Not that they call pacifist Christians heretics for not spreading Christianity through violence, but they call them heretics for completely opposing war, which many Christians feel is justified, but some don't.
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8 ups
Peaceful Muslims call violent ones heretics. And Christians have called pacifist Christians (like Quakers) heretics as well. You only looked at one side of the issue, not both.
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9 ups, 4 replies
I haven't been on here for a long time (family tragedy). I had enjoyed the good natured banter, the clever invention and blistering humour. So today I started scrolling through and was really sad to see such polarisation and hatred among the users here, due to the new administration in your country. From a British perspective it seems this polarisation is deliberate and that Trump is going through the Modern Dictators Handbook step by step. Create division, create fear, create chaos to provide misdirection. Make the press, the judiciary, and the intelligence community enemies. Convince the poorest, the disenfranchised and the least educated that they will be heard and rewarded for their loyalty (which History proves is never the case). Then gradually take away freedoms and before you know it he will take you to war, because war pays; especially if you are a businessman like Trump dealing in arms, oil or whatever takes the fancy of this man/child billionaire with absolutely no understanding or regard for ordinary people. You're young men will have to enlist and be blown up in which ever country he decides in his lunacy to pick a fight with. Let's hope it isn't one that has a nuclear arsenal or it is game over for all of us. I don't think Clinton was a good choice and I understand why people wanted to make a point, but the rest of the world can see that America voted in a dangerous egomaniac, with obvious allegiances to Russia. This is a country America should fear more than any other and with which it had a long history of mistrust during the cold war (just ask your parents and grandparents). If he wants to talk of dangerous hombres, Putin is top of most Intelligence Services lists. Please don't fight amongst yourselves, you might as well be swapping chairs on the Titanic. Everyone can make a mistake, don't compound it by buying into his apocalyptic agenda. His Presidency has just made our world a much more dangerous place. War is not the same any more, the weapons have a longer reach than they had in WW2 and it will come to everyone's back door this time. Do you all want to be drafted? Is that what you voted for? From someone old, with a long memory and no party partiality, I am telling you this will not end well for any of us. Don't be distracted by this ban or any of his other tricks and empty promises, the real enemy is within, the fox is in the chicken coop.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Very sorry to hear of your family tragedy. Having suffered similar, I feel for you and yours whatever you're dealing with. Regarding Trump, you have missed the point entirely, not surprising, many did and many still do, but the British have been missing the point about America and Americans (not this pussycat crowd capturing the headlines) for better than 200 years. Best to you, my friend and don't believe everything you read in the press. The world should be sleeping better tonight having a man who loves his country as POTUS, rather than the charlatan, Hillary Clinton, who was more than willing to offer us all up to the highest bidder.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Thank you for your kindness about my family. I am sorry you have had similar sadness to contend with. I fear we will have to agree to disagree on this. As I said to another contributor I sincerely hope that you are right and I am wrong, because my fears for all our peoples weigh heavy at the moment. However, for all of the reasons I gave in my longer contribution above, I struggle to see how the world has become safer in the last week or so. I just hope that people remain calm, measured and informed, keep reading, thinking and debating rationally and making up their minds without the fear of recrimination or insult. I have many American friends and it breaks my heart to see division on this scale. God bless you all.
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2 ups
And thanks to you in return. Sadness finds it's way to all of eventually, but when it arrives suddenly and unexpectedly as is usually the case in tragic situations, it jars the very foundations of what we think we know to be steady and constant. As to agreeing to disagree, I will add you to the growing list of people with whom I now suffer a similar relationship. As I understand it, the concepts behind the American revolution were only popular among roughly 30 percent of colonials and the assessment of its outcome was certainly disparate on opposite sides of the Atlantic. While Brexit and Trump may seem precipitous, neither of our countries was excelling with an endless series of politicians whispering that the world is gentle and kind and everything will be fine if we just trust them. It is quite plain to see that the middle east was set afire under the leadership of Obama, Clinton and Cameron. Turning a blind eye to the realities of those who would see an end to our way of life was accomplishing little, save to bring the problems of the desert to our own shores. Only time will tell as to whether Trump can begin to turn back the damage that was being done to our country at an ever increasing pace. I pray he can and I pray the same for the UK, for without a change of course the future of western civilization as we have known it is looking bleak indeed.
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1 up, 1 reply
Did you vote for brexit?
Trump is not a dictator either.
He just wants to protect America and not let in 1000s of barbarians to **pe our people like what's going on in Europe and the uk.
Have you ever heard of the group "Britain First"?
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0 ups
I have heard of Britain First they are a far right extremist group with a dangerous agenda. They advocate violence and I don't. I am sorry if anything I have said offended you. I always believe that to find compromise and middle ground is the rational choice. When we become polarised and take entrenched positions there is usually only one outcome, suffering on both sides. Political history shows us that time and time again. I may not hold with all of your thoughts, but I would defend with my last breath your right to your opinion. :)
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0 ups
You British need to stay out of our politics, it's hardly your business to begin with. I get sick of hearing international countries complain that we have made a decision for a leader who could be good or bad for our country. It's a learning experience, and he is not a dictator. He is very pro-america, and Americans have been against Dictators forever. Your logic confuses me.
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3 ups, 2 replies
The liberals are the ones attacking Trump supporters everywhere. THEY are the ones creating division, not Trump. Don't fall for the lies.
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8 ups, 1 reply
I gave a good deal of thought to what I posted. When you or someone you love is drafted, I hope you remember there were good people who stood back from all the smoke and mirrors and tried to warn you. Keep you mind, your eyes and your heart open. You are being played by an expert negotiator and he doesn't give a damn about you. Why would he?
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2 ups, 2 replies
Doesn't make you right. Trump isn't out to get anyone. War is the LAST thing he wants. You're mistaken, sorry.
8 ups
As Ripley says in Aliens 'I hope you're right, I really do'. I am also glad that some one so confidently professes to know the mind of Donald Trump, when it appears to elude him so regularly.
6 ups
That's funny because he made threats of war throughout his entire campaign. I don't think war is the last thing he wants. I don't think he cares. He's an insecure madman at the helm of a very powerful army. God help us all.
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6 ups, 1 reply
Why do you think they're so angry? Trump ran a divisive campaign and sowed discord every step of the way. And now you expect everyone to just lay there and do nothing? He angered people. This is the result. Blame him.
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3 ups
The media is to blame for making him out to be Hitler.

Who did he threaten? Hillary was the one threatening to attack Russia over cyber attacks. Being mad doesn't give them the right to riot and attack Trump supporters.

Sorry to tell you, but your thoughts aren't your own. You have fallen for the lies of the mainstream media and aren't living in reality.
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3 ups
Just because it is YOUR body doesn't mean it's YOUR life
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6 ups, 1 reply
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8 ups, 1 reply
How so? :)
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6 ups
Oh for example, when comparing modern day Christianity to modern day Islam, using examples from medieval era Christianity to bash them?
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5 ups, 1 reply
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9 ups, 1 reply
And the Christians who blow up abortion clinics are following the verses that tell them that God hates those who shed innocent blood.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Nope. Wrong again.
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7 ups, 2 replies
The *actual* Ten Commandments? As in Exodus chapter 34? Or the ones in Exodus chapter 20, which 99% of people think of as the TC, but which actually aren't because they were never called the Ten Commandments OR written in stone tablets?

The *actual* Ten Commandments don't say anything about killing. Don't take my word for it. Read Exodus for yourself, chapters 20 and 34.

Also, might want to read Proverbs 6:16-17
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5 ups, 1 reply
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7 ups, 1 reply
Do you ask Natalie and ninja the same thing? They deflect from Bible verses which are atrocious.

What would you like me to do, then?
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6 ups
YOU DO NOT USE NINJA FOR ANY EXAMPLE WHATSOEVER. He is a bomb triggered by words.
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3 ups, 2 replies
Lol, I've read the bible. Cover to cover dude. You haven't.

You're a bigot dude.
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8 ups, 4 replies
How do you know I haven't? I haven't, by the way. But I'm in the process of reading it :) Anyhow, that doesn't make what I said about the Ten Commandments any less true.

How am I a bigot? I don't advocate for treating Christians any differently than anyone else. I oppose religious discrimination *against* anyone and *by* anyone. All people should be treated equally under the law and in society. Christians should not be treated better or worse, and Muslims should not be treated better or worse. How is that bigotry?
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6 ups, 1 reply
Dude, I know what you're doing. You're just reading shit off random websites and trying to act like you know what you're talking about. You'll believe anything you read as long as it fits your wanted narrative, yet you claim outlets like Infowars is bullshit.
8 ups
I've got to go to bed soon, but I'll reply ASAP. I notice that you never did explain how what I said about the TC was wrong. It's right there in the Bible, in Exodus. Just like it doesn't say anywhere that Noah preached repentance like many people think. God told him to build the ark, he built it, and it started raining. No preaching to anyone about turning from sin, getting in the ark for safety, none of that. Something can be incorrectly remembered, yet become so ingrained in culture that people don't know it's wrong.

Luke, I am your father
Beam me up, Scotty
Elementary, my dear Watson

None of these are actual quotes. And the TC 99% of people think of (chap. 20) aren't the TC.
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5 ups, 1 reply
I know you haven't because I can tell by your incorrect statements. Pretty easy.

No, you are 100% wrong about the 10 commandments.

You just said Christians being persecuted don't deserve to helped first. THEY are the minority there. It's not America's responsibility to help Muslims. We're not a Muslim country. Countries like Saudi Arabia should be helping them.
8 ups
How exactly was I 100% wrong about the Ten Commandments? Be specific please. I know what Exodus says.

Christians don't deserve special treatment. There are Muslims who are being persecuted as well because they are the wrong sect. Others have pointed this out as well. It's not America's responsibility to help anyone overseas, technically. We do it because Americans are good people.

We're not a specifically Christian country, either. We should help people in need regardless of their beliefs.
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5 ups
Just because you can google someone saying some bullshit doesn't make it true. I'm not your sunday school teacher. You're clearly going to believe what you want.
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8 ups, 2 replies
Was that your rationale for calling me a bigot? Because I think Muslims and Christians should be treated equally?
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6 ups
The Christians there aren't being treated equally. THAT is the issue.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Treated equally even though they're being killed at a 1000x faster rate?
Wouldn't it make sense to get the most persecuted out first?
2 ups
It would make sense to get *any* persecuted people out first.
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Hi! I have a partial notification from you but I can't read it as my initial comments have been removed (I am looking into why). The part I can read seems to suggest I have annoyed you. I don't know if you did read my comments but if you did you will see that I am not partisan or political, just some one who has lived long enough to see patterns emerging and is very afraid for all our futures. I am sorry if those fears disturb you but they are deeply felt. I certainly meant no harm. Anyone with children can be forgiven for fearing the hatred and division that is being stirred up. I know I come from another country but I am sure I don't need to point out that the stability of America affects the whole world order. I was motivated to write having seen the level of discord and disrespect on here at the moment and feeling so sad about that. I hope that clarifies a few things for you and that you recognise that a differing opinion does not necessarily come from a place of contention but a place of genuine anxiety. :)
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3 ups, 2 replies
I wonder if someone could tell me why a conversation I was having with Screamnmeme, renegade - sith and others has been removed. I am at a loss to know why that would be. Thanks
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2 ups, 1 reply
Thanks for pointing that out grumpygirl. This thread has gone off on so many tangents I had not noticed it was gone. Despite differing opinions, you were certainly nothing but kind and courteous to me. I hope I was behaving in a similar fashion with you and everyone else that I have exchanged comments with here.
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You were, but obviously I would appreciate it being re-instated. I can re-post of course if that would help. I feel uncomfortable about it's removal. I am sure you can appreciate why, at a time when a one sided debate might look like partisan behaviour and possibly indicate suppression. I would worry that it could be seen as flouting the codes of conduct and I am sure that would not be your intention.
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Of course, I abhor censorship in all forms. Not too savvy on what policies are around here. Perhaps gentle conversation is considered inappropriate ;)
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So glad you feel as I do about it, so I have reposted my comment below.
I haven't been on here for a long time (family tragedy). I had enjoyed the good natured banter, the clever invention and blistering humour. So today I started scrolling through and was really sad to see such polarisation and hatred among the users here, due to the new administration in your country. From a British perspective it seems this polarisation is deliberate and that Trump is going through the Modern Dictators Handbook step by step. Create division, create fear, create chaos to provide misdirection. Make the press, the judiciary, and the intelligence community enemies. Convince the poorest, the disenfranchised and the least educated that they will be heard and rewarded for their loyalty (which History proves is never the case). Then gradually take away freedoms and before you know it he will take you to war, because war pays; especially if you are a businessman like Trump dealing in arms, oil or whatever takes the fancy of this man/child billionaire with absolutely no understanding or regard for ordinary people. You're young men will have to enlist and be blown up in which ever country he decides in his lunacy to pick a fight with. Let's hope it isn't one that has a nuclear arsenal or it is game over for all of us. I don't think Clinton was a good choice and I understand why people wanted to make a point, but the rest of the world can see that America voted in a dangerous egomaniac, with obvious allegiances to Russia. This is a country America should fear more than any other and with which it had a long history of mistrust during the cold war (just ask your parents and grandparents). If he wants to talk of dangerous hombres, Putin is top of most Intelligence Services lists. Please don't fight amongst yourselves, you might as well be swapping chairs on the Titanic. Everyone can make a mistake, don't compound it by buying into his apocalyptic agenda. His Presidency has just made our world a much more dangerous place. War is not the same any more, the weapons have a longer reach than they had in WW2 and it will come to everyone's back door this time. Do you all want to be drafted? Is that what you voted for? From someone old, with a long memory and no party partiality, I am telling you this will not end well for any of us. Don't be distracted by this ban or any of his other tricks and empty promises, the real enemy is within, the fox is in the chicken coop.
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You have the liberals to thank for downvoting the comment thread into hidden status. They love trying to censor Trump supporters like myself here and as a result, your comments were "hidden" as well even though you were opposing him. There's a reason we call them "libtards" here in the US.
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It really is incredible how willing liberals are to silence any opposing views while pointing fingers and screaming fascist at anything that moves.
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It's under this comment. Hope it helps.

You're exactly right. Many of them were trying to prevent Trump supporters to attend his inauguration, while calling everyone a fascist. Trying to stop people from peacefully assembling is pure fascism.
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ah, found it, thanks for the pointer… hate it when I am being a dunce!
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Thanks again! Doh! In my defence I didn't have my glasses...
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No problem!
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Yep - It's why I am down to two submissions a day, and this is probably the last comment I will be able to post.
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Thank you renegade. I see your point and as an old none partisan, I agree that down voting someone's contribution just because it represents a different perspective is really unedifying. You would think that defending someone's right to their opinion was paramount to informed debate. I share your incredulity. It makes me really sad because we should all feel confident enough in our opinions not to feel threatened by someone else's. It shows deep political insecurity and I guess for that reason, an attempt at censorship indicates that an argument is strong and may hold veracity and sway. Hopefully it is not a trend that continues to the detriment of healthy political debate and good natured satire on this site, which has always been my experience in the past. Thank you again for your courteous response. :)
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I cannot find anything that says 'low rated comment.' Is it a feature only available if you are premium member perhaps?
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Interesting, I noticed that your comments from our conversation still exist on your page but no longer on this thread.
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They're still here....you guys have to click on low rated comment click to show up above because the Trump haters downvoted the comments
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Thanks for head up. I still have no idea what I am doing for the most part, including being able to post memes in the comment section. I wonder if my browser is making some features unavailable.
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Perhaps best I make an enquiry regarding this.
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Although suicide is a sin in Islam, adherents believe that martyrdom absolves them of all sin. That’s why the 9-11 killer’s did drugs, had w**res, etc. before the attack.
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