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Batman Slapping Robin Meme | NO ONE IN CHICAGO HAS GUNS! THE CRIMINALS DO! | image tagged in memes,batman slapping robin | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Seriously, I read a story where Rom Emmanuel was blaming guns coming in from other states.

I will guarantee that some troll will chime in with the argument that gun restrictions need to be nationwide, not state or local. Thank God that we won't see that any time soon.
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I personally don't own a gun, but I find them fascinating. I also understand why someone would want one and I also understand the responsibilities that come with ownership.
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You should own a gun because you can.
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I understand that everyone has a lawful right to have a gun. But I also have my lawful right not to get shot...purposely or accidentally.
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Your naïve. There are people everyday who get killed over something stupid as TV in their house or $20 on accident.
It doesn't matter how careful you are. I have a friend who was murdered 6 shots to the chest over apparently nothing and the killer was never caught.
I own 2 guns.
Its a great hobby; the gun community is incredibly responsible, and we share a right to defend ourselves from self-serving trash.

If Americans did not have the right to have guns, we would all be potential targets and we would not be as safe. And your opinion would change. The fact that I might have a gun in a convenience store protects you and me. Criminals know that, and it makes us all safer.
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Next time someone proposes NATIONAL gun control laws and cite places like England, remind them that Mexico has some of the stricter NATIONAL gun laws and regulations in the planet. Yet, criminals there are armed as good or better than their military.
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And before any of the conservative trolls say it, Fast & Furious involved weapons purchased by cartel buyers, not US government funding.
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SpursFanFromAround already explained that Fast and Furious was already exposed and proven. It was funded by our government. That is a fact. But, regardless of Fast and Furious, criminals in Mexico were well-equipped before it. The disproportionate nature of guns owned by criminals and guns owned by ordinary citizens is off the charts, and it has been for a very long time. My wife is in her mid 40s and she tells me how these people ran towns by fear back when she was a teen. It was so much so, they (criminals) would impose curfews to citizens with the threat of murder if they were walking about after dark. So, if you were in some sort of work that require you to work after dark, you would have to arrange it with them, or take your chances of being murdered. That is no joke. And, because the level of corruption in all levels of government, you could not go to police for fear that they would tell on you or kill you themselves.

All that said, the 2nd amendment to the constitution wasn't for citizens to protect themselves from "criminals." It was for citizens to have means to protect themselves against tyranny. The idea was to establish balance of power between the government and the people. That balance of power did not exist in the monarchy they (our forefathers) fought against for independence. Now, limiting gun ownership simply because some crazy individual got a hold of a gun and killed people is stupid. It solves nothing. The problem that needs solving is figuring out how that deranged individual got a hold on the gun and address that. For example, in the case of Sandy Hook, charges needed to filed against the mother for negligence. But, even deeper than that, we need to figure out why are we breeding "violent crazies." If you take a gun away from a crazy person set to kill people, they will do it with a knife, a bar, with their bare hands, you name it. To me, it is dumb to focus in "mass" killings. After all, would you be less upset or distraught if a loved one is killed by a deranged individual if your loved one was the ONLY victim? I don't think so. The fact that your loved one was one of many will not be any worse than if he or she was a solitary victim.
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No, they did not. They were funded by money given to the cartels by the Obama administration. Sorry to break it to you, but it's already been exposed.
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Yup... lots more countries where the bans are effective, you point to one of the exceptions with horrifically counterproductive laws about guns.
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Here in the USA, places with stricter gun laws have a much higher rate of gun violence than places without them. That is our reality. And we need to legislate laws that can fit our reality, not others. England is not the United States; and neither is Australia. But, if you still convince that these sort of comparisons are valid, you must take ALL elements of that society and consider each and every one. For example, when I arrived in Germany in the mid 80s, we were told to NEVER refuse the instructions of the Polizei because they could use much more force to make you comply than cops here in the USA. AND, if for some odd reason the case went to court, the courts will be on their side. I am bringing this up to make the point that the mindset of the average German citizen is way different than the mindset of your average American citizen. Culturally, we are way different. We view law and law enforcement differently. Therefore, laws that are effective here might not work there and vice versa.

Also, for all I know, Australian citizens are not very happy with the gun ban. I read somewhere that violent crime in remote areas is way up. I think, if I remember right, home invasions are on the rise and it might be even illegal to defend yourself. That you have to call the police and THEY are the ones allowed to intervene.

Anyway, when I bring the issue of guns, I compare places here in America like Chicago and Dallas. And, again, our reality is that gun restrictions in America do not work. The evidence is overwhelming. All you have to do is look it up and be open-minded about it.
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Gun Free zones never made sense to me. It's usually just a sign saying "No Guns". I bet you steal sprite from the fountain all the time when the sign says "Water Only" when you have a water cup.
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When you say "you" are you asking about me specifically or people in general?

I don't drink sprite and don't steal soda from the fountain if I only have a water cup.

Just kidding, I think that I know what you meant, the fact that a sign saying that it's a gun free zone won't keep criminals from introducing a gun?
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Yes, using it as an example.
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All fair points. Gun culture, and a host of societal and class issues are at the heart of the problem. I can't disagree with you. I just thought that using Mexico as an argument is pretty rough due to their very complicated relationship with gun controls over the years. Lastly, cities with gun controls in the US really don't do anything anyway, when you can just cross state lines or go to another city to get guns.
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BUT, it doesn't explain the disproportionate rate of gun violence crimes when compared to cities where guns are more easily accessible. Logic dictates that law-abiding citizens will not go to other cities to buy guns to circumvent local gun laws. That is the only thing, in my opinion, that can explain why crime is higher in Chicago than a city like Houston or Dallas; where ordinary citizens can arm themselves for self-protection.
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Fair point... however I think that there are confounding factors that are missed in general. I'm also sure there are plenty of normally law abiding citizens who disagree with the gun laws of the city and buy guns elsewhere. It's a question with no good answer at the moment. Guns are in America, they aren't going anywhere, the question is how to reduce violence in general. I've got a few ideas, but this isn't the place for a dissertation on the convergence of socioeconomic factors, maladaptive coping mechanisms and the "cult of macho".
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Had to post it. I gotta be me.
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But the cops never accept the truth.
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still the mafia tho.....
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not to mention terrorists next door
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If only two people existed, they'd find a reason to kill each other... if only one person existed, he'd do something stupid and get himself killed!
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Sure!
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and that's why nowhere is safe from criminal minds.
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This is your friendly neighborhood fox, warning you of the dangers of the great beyond.
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Lol :-)
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Nice image. Maybe the FBI should change their targets.
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Thx
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I don't own A gun. I own about a dozen. And none of them have killed anyone. Yet two of them have stopped me from being killed or injured because I had them. A home invasion...stopped by a Ruger GP100. An attempted assault/carjack in my work parking lot...stopped by a Glock model 27. Ahh but no one was killed so that didn't make the news, just as most crimes stopped by guns don't. Doesn't promote the left agenda and no one died so it's not going to make headlines.
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Guns in Chicago, never seen one!
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Chicago has been rough, even in the early 20th Century. Quote from Louis Sullivan, who spent a large portion of his life in the Windy City: "this flat smear, this endless drawl of streets and shanties, large and small, this ocean of smoke..Seventy years ago it was a mudhole-today it is a human swamp".
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Source, It's required reading for my Politics Class: "Twentieth Century America: A Brief History" by Thomas C. Reeves
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There is no such thing.
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I was born in Chicago
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I try to stay away from Chicago
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Anyone know a user that can help me make a photo collage without the background of the pictures?
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I use "png" pictures from google. However, if you want more ideas on how to photoshop, I'd ask Jying. He's good at that sort of thing.
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If no restrictions work, shouldn't Somalia be the safest place on earth?
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You're seriously comparing Somalia to the United States? We don't have a dictatorship government that goes around slaughtering its people. It isn't ordinary citizens that have weapons, it's their own government and the local gangs that do their dirty work. Try again.
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Bronx, New York, New York, USA

Once the most dangerous town in the world.

Gun restrictions turned NYC into the safest big city in America,,,
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Are you kidding me???? Gun restriction didn't turn New York City into the safest big city in America. Tough law enforcement initiatives by Rudy Giuliani did. And I remember vividly how much criticism he got because he was going hard against the "little fish." But, it worked. Do some research first. Repeating liberal rhetoric will only make you look dumb.
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Incidentally, to save you the trouble of doing actual research, some neighborhoods - afflicted by the crack crisis and related crimes - thusly a rise in crime rates, warping overall stats. Non afflicted neighborhoods continued to see a decline in said rates. Once the epidemic was over, overall rates continued on their downward course.

PS: Silly left/right wing-isms do not alter facts.

PPS: No worries, I still got my hanky at my side since two night ago when libero lefto trolls here called me a right winger war mongering fascist for my stance against terrorism by terroristic islamic terrorists.
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No, I'm not kidding you, facts don't kid.

Crime in NYC has been going down since the 1960s.
They continue going down today.
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Dude... good luck rewriting history. Crime going down in NYC since 1960? That is laughable.
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Bronx, New York, New York, USA

Once the most dangerous town in the world.

Gun restrictions turned NYC into the safest big city in America,,,
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Here's from the CITY's website. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/poa_crime.shtml

Even they admit crime rate started to go down in the 90s, not the 60s.
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I can barely make out the years on the graphs. But, does the data show crime reduction since the 1960s? I don't think so. I think it shows crime reduction since the 1990s. Thanks for making my point.
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Dates too small to make out,
But ain't any 1960s?

Gotcha

Love it.
You alright, I like you.

February 6, 2017

'Noight,,,
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LMFAO... gotcha? I clearly posted that the data you posted doesn't support your ridiculous claim of crime reduction since the 1960s.
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Dates too small to make out,
But ain't any 1960s?

Gotcha

Love it.
You alright, I like you.

February 6, 2017

'Noight,,,
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/historical_nyc_crime_data.shtml
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http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm

Here are the facts, Jack! But, keep posting your crap. It is actually amusing to see how delusional libtards love to embarrass themselves by posting their ridiculous claims like you just did.
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/historical_nyc_crime_data.shtml

PS: I'm not a liberal. In fact, lefto terrorism apologist trolls 1redshoe & AnotherWorldView are currently trying to e-kill me for my stance on moslem terrorists.

Golly, Bronx born/raised - ya think I'mmo end up yet another stat?
The onslaught sho iz fierce,,,
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Oh, btw, Rudes ain't been mayuh here since 2001, we hads Bloomsy (3 terms), and now we gat Debalsi.

It's 2017. Da 90s is ovuh.
Next time, look it up.
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Way to go... use a country that is severely oppressed by its government as an example why no gun restrictions don't work. You are a real man of genius!
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No taxes, no pesky regulations, no gun control.....A real CONSERVATIVE PARADISE!
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Do you hear yourself right now?
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Guys, guys, these arguments don't matter anyways, because the constitution guarantees us the right to bear arms...
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You're using tired old examples of "perfect" gun control policies. The United kingdom has an abundance of [email protected], mass stabbings and thuggery, and so does Australia. Yeah, they're perfect examples ... pfft!

And don't even get me started on Germany. Do some research, why don't you ....
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But minimal shootings, school shootings, etc.
You have better chances of surviving a stabbing.
Do your research.
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Not if you have a gun. You can't fight off an attacker with a gun if you only have a knife. And you really believe criminals are giving up their guns? Hmmmm....
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Funny cause they don't seem to have guns anymore around here. It's pretty rare.
But don't worry, I'm sure your kids will survive school today. You remembered to give them all guns right?
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When you move to the United States you can have this conversation about guns in America. Until then, you have no idea. I mean, I'm assuming you don't live here. Chicago has the most restrictive regulations on guns in the entire country and there were well over 700 homicides from gun related incidents in the city.

Take away Chicago, L.A., and Detroit and the United States would be at the bottom of the list of countries with the least ammoint of gun related homicides of all countries per capita.

So I would suggest you do your research.  
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So take away the largest cities and homicides go down? That's mighty impressive.
Usa is the only country with the world where school shootings are normal, and yet Americans insist on changing nothing. I think that speaks volumes.
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School shootings are normal, you say? How so? Because every time one happens on a grand scale they show it on the national news? Yeah, right. School shootings don't happen as often as you might think. They just seem like they do,because it's news worthy. And these school shooting happen in "gun free" zones, not NRA meetings or gun shows. You want to know why? ...

Because in "gun free" zones, no one has a gun to shoot back. You really believe that if you're going to shoot up a building with hundreds of people, you're going to do it where the majority of people are packing heat? Give me a break ... you're going to go where there is the least resistance.

This is why almost every mass shooting happens in schools, malls, and even the military bases ... because they are all "gun free" zones.

Wow, it's almost like liberals have no thought process of their own.
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And yet it doesn't happen in any other country but America. But you won't change.
Maybe you'll feel different when it's your children in danger?
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Keep denying the facts. You're a picture perfect liberal.
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Dunno what that means as the liberals removed gun registration.
But me denying facts? The facts are on my side.
No other country has biannual school shootings, mass bar shootings, mass mall shootings yearly. Only America holds that title. More Americans die every year by guns from other Americans then Americans die every decade in war.
But keep denying the facts. Eventually you or your children will lay dead on the floor, shot by another American, and maybe then you'll wonder why you bothered to support guns when they didn't help you.
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Glad I don't have a gun. Only thing close is my dad's old gun..but of course, it's not even loaded.
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Indiana's fault
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Of course we can't blame another state, because it messes with your narrative.
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One does not simply ban guns in a city / state and expect it will work if you can buy tons of them few miles away in every direction.
I know most of you don't want to hear this, but... It's simply logic.
I would like to make a MEME about it but you downvoted me so hard I'm stuck with text messages. :'(
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I didn't down vote anything of yours. I don't even know who you are.

And the whole "Chicago is so violent because of the surrounding cities" argument is bull.
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Welcome to imgflip. Turned into an alt right hyper right conservative meme site like a year and half ago. Used to be middle schoolers complaining about homework then it turned into self proclaimed right wing geniuses that hate liberals.
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Then I guess you can leave if you hate it so much. Go join reddit. No one is making you stay here.
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LOL...no way, I wanna be here when you all self destruct and implode the site.
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Not going to happen. The site has actually gotten a lot more traffic in recent months. The site used to be quite slow and full. I should know, I've been here for four years.
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Me too! under different names. You right wingers make it hard to have fun so I change it up to keep it interesting.

Remember Ser.Donald.P.Suttingsworth and Acuity12? Ah, the good old days.
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Yes, when they were actually making memes.
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Gun laws may be strict in Chicago, but they aren't in the surrounding areas. If you want an example of gun laws actually working the way they were intended, try Australia, which has barely had any mass shootings since 1996.
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Guess they forgot to ban the knives because they have a problem with beatings and stabbings.
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But saw an increase on home invasions, particularly in remote areas.
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...and are now back UP to the rates they were at before the gun grab :-/
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