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1) His wife isn't Jewish, his daughter is.
2) Judiasm is a religion, not a race.

By the way, I'm not arguing that he's racist, just pointing out the religion thing. :P

for sure man

This issue (race/religion) isn't as clear cut as you might, at first glace, believe.

How do you figure? Religion is a choice, race is genetic and therefore not.

Among Jews today you are considered a Jew if your mother is Jewish. Before the Middle Ages, from the beginning of Jewish history, it was about paternal lineage-you belonged to your father's tribe. Conversion was possible and remains a possibility, so choice is a factor. But not the only factor. There are some distinct DNA markers and genetic traits that are exclusive to Hebrew people. In the 1970's they help solidify the claim that some Ethiopians had descended from ancient Hebrews and permitted them to apply for Israeli citizenship as "returnee's." There is no comparable test that I know of that can determine a persons nationality much less their religious affiliation. This is a lot more complicated than saying my Mom was a Methodist and my Dad a Presbyterian but I'm a nondenominational Christian. Or my dad was born in Scotland and my Mom was born in Denmark but I was born in Chicago so I'm an American-those things are true but a historical facts, not genetics. BTW, as a Libertarian I endorse people choosing for themselves, regardless of the subject or topic, as long as no one else is hurt by our choices, okay? If Senator Warren wants to be Native American, or Rachel Dolezal wants to be African-American I have no opinion.

How does one choose to be African American?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

This a lot reading. I apologize. Some of our identity is choice, some is hereditary. And some of the values we honor or disagree with is based on our own preferences. I personally detest the Confederate flag. Others hold it in a reverent regard because it DOESN'T mean the same thing to them that it does to me.
I'm not saying your wrong, I'm saying that some things are much more complicated than they first appear.
Point of view is critical.
Also see "politics of identity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics

I'm not talking about identity, I'm talking about reality. One does not choose their race. I can't choose to be African American tomorrow. I can, however, choose to be Jewish.

Now I know that you're not a "Progressive" - no offense meant – but reality seldom applies to Progressive ideals. That's why I can't be a progressive: Too much reality has to be written off. You have to believe truth is "relative," not absolute. Or that identity transcends the facts of you birth. And the biggest falsehood is that "ends justify means." Yes, jtw, you can become a Jew (if you study, and apply to a Congregation, and conform to some practices). Or you can be born a Jew, according to Jewish traditions. You can be born Welsh or Corsican, or you can immigrate. But life isn't always simply about choices. Unless one's parents, for instance, a Japanese, one cannot 'become Japanese' even if you lived and died in Japan. (There are Korean communities in present day Japan that go back to the 19th Century). Sorry for running on. Some identities are choice, some are hereditary. Some are both.

Which brings us full circle to my original point: Race is hereditary, not a matter of choice. Religion is a matter of choice.

Examples of religions:
1) Christianity
2) Judiasm
3) Islam
3) Scientology
4) Confucianism
5) Taoism
6) The Universe People (Really?? I laughed when I saw this one. Ha!)

One can choose to be any of the above. They are religions, not races.

Examples of races from the Iowa Data Center:
1) American Indian
2) Black
3) Asian
4) Hispanic

These are not a matter of choice.

The notion that Senator Warren can become a Native American or that Rachel Dolezal can become an African-American is as absurd as the suggestion that I could become a horse tomorrow. No matter how much I wish I was a horse, I am not a horse and can never become one.

I could, however, become Jewish or a Scientologist. Could a Chinese or black person become Jewish by practicing Judiasm? You bet. It's a religious conversion. Could they become Native Americans by going to pow wow's? Nope. Racial conversions don't exist.

One is religion, the other is race. The term "racism" refers to "race." Judiasm is not a race, therefore "racism" does not apply to Judiasm.

The term "racism" also does not apply to Christianity, Islam, Scientology, or the Universe People. If I hate someone because they are a Scientologist, is it racist?

As for the family "we're Jewish" aspect goes, after a couple generations Scientologists will talk about their children and families in the same terms Jews or any other religious group will.

"We're Scientologists," said a white/black couple who practice Scientology and come from a long line of Scientologists.

I'm not offended by the progressive comment. I'm in my early 40's and was too busy writing video games and physics/vehicle dynamics software all my life to ever go to college where such things are discussed at great length by kids in their 20's trying to figure out where they fit into the world, so not only do I not know what the phrase means, I don't care that I don't know. I don't have to fit in with anyone and I don't give two shits what some college kid who hasn't done a damned thing in his life yet thinks about me. (Not talking about you, just the general idea).

"Progressive" sounds like a snotty "my ideas are better than yours" way that a group of people can categorize their thought processes in such a way that they win by definition, as though if someone doesn't agree with a particular idea they deem "progressive", they are regressive idiots who want the world to go backwards by definition. I'd bet half of them are Marxists anyway. It's annoying.

I think what I think and am not trying to fit in with the college kids that spend too much time trying to apply a word with a previously existing definition to every conceivable idea that has "ism" in it through wild free association in drum circles around a bong. The phrase "intellectual masturbation" comes to mind. Fun, but it's not particularly useful to keep redefining words every year. That's a way to lose everyone in the conversation and make sure the only people you're talking to who know what you're talking about is your circle of friends. I suspect what people are really doing is figuring out a thought process they can use to cope with life. That's fine, but what you're supposed to do is invent new words and phrases for those new ideas, not hijack ones that already have definitions. Stop making us old people have to relearn the English language every time a new class of kids graduates college, ok?

Let's allow "racism" to mean one thing, as currently defined in the Oxford Dictionary: The belief that your race is superior to others.

It's a stupid idea, as is the idea of race to begin with, but that's what it is. I was raised of the mind that if the idea of race never entered one's mind, there would be no such thing as racism, or at least it'd be reduced a lot. Morgan Freeman has expressed a similar view. "Stop talking about it," he said. And since Morgan Freeman really is God, we should listen.

It amazes me you have to even argue this point. How wierd that folks can't grasp simple concepts. I knew a guy who wanted to be Italian o bad he changed his name. Sorry, he's still western European mutt despite his best efforts.

Just because all those people are around him, that Doesn't mean he likes them.

He called Carson a child molester for f**ks sake

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You really think he gives two shits about his wife? You have a strange perception of love, lol.

You're just sad.

No, I prefer young white women

Judaism isn’t a race. His wife is Catholic and white, the black/latinos are cleaning crew, and he has one black dude in his cabinet. racism is definitely a possibility

Just because he knows a black guy doesn't mean that he can't also be racist.

he has a black guy working foe him you idiot! he doesn't just know him, he trusts him!

for

foe? You do know that means enemy and not for, right? Also, because someone is working for you, does not mean that you trust them. I wouldn't trust someone who was competing against me previously, so why would he.

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