Great Christmas Gift Idea

I hope you don't mind that I kept that image. My kids will love it.

It's all free game when it's on the internet!

Not even a double wide!

I'm sorry but who would get us our food if they don't work

Burger Heaven?

Oh, yeah!

Hoping somebody hasn't already made this joke, cuz then I will look like a rip-off

the snowflakes fighting for 15 were unfortunately and deliberately deprived of an education in basic economics.

Every student in my school thinks that it would be helpful to our economy

I don't get :/

Fight for 15. If those stupid protests manage to get the law changed, she will make as much money as the average full-time worker in the USA in present-day. Just made a Christmas joke by accident there xD

If you don't understand, look up "Fight for 15"

too lazy to

it isn't that hard

Congress has set a COLA into their own wages because they realize the cost of living generally goes up.

In the 80+ years of the minimum wage, every time it was raised, the cry of prices going up and jobs being lost has been heard constantly. But did you ever notice that prices continue to rise eben when the minimum wage stays the same? Compare, for example, the prices of everyday staples in supermarket ads from 2007 and current ads. Using the logic that minimum wage affects price increases shows otherwise. Housing Goes up, utilities go up, cost of food and clothing goes up.

When the minimum wage was established, it was to provide the basic wages needed to provide the basic needs. Bad Congress worked a COLA into it in the 70s like they did with Social Security payments, this argument wouldn't icvur every four to ten years.

The only way that the bencarl for minimum wage could be held would be price freezes on everything. I mean everything. All wages would have to be frozen. Gas stations couldn't play with their prices like they currently do. Electric, natural gas, telephone, never change.

Businesses raise prices because their cost of doing business keeps going up. Raw material goes up, advertising goes up, rent skyrockets, utilities, so why shouldn't labor.

Until businesses realize that their employees are an asset, not a drain, we, the consumers, the very people that keep a business in business, are stuck with poor service, employees that are, at best. Lethargic about going that extra step to insure customer satisfaction and continued success of the company.

Since most folks focus on the fast food industry as being the minimum wage leader, ask yourself if you'd harp over a failure in the minimum wage increase to the person taking your order? Remember, they're the ones that interact with the kitchen help.

Lastly, you have to consider that should the $15 minimum wage be passed, it won't go into effect immediately. First, it's usually spread over a period of 3 years. Second, it usually goes into effect on January first, to allow businesses to plan on how they will meet the increase. The absolute earliest it would go into effect would be in 2018, and it wouldn't jump to $15.

Very clearly a supporter here. Are you forgetting how easily it is to replace a workforce with robots? There are ways for companies to fire half the workforce, so they would have to pay the same amount of money to the workers, despite the minimum wage. Jobs would be lost. Even if they did keep the whole workforce, they would have to raise their prices for things, which would cause people to look for other places. That would be the downfall of a business. Neither scenario is good for our economy. You will say, "Oh, just give them money, donate it". That defeats the purpose of going to the places for the goods anyway. Realize what it will do to our economy.

Good. I love a good debate. I'll reply to you different replies in separate replies.

One, replacing the workforce with "robots". If this were the case, the robots would have taken all the jobs 40 years ago. Wages are not THE determining factor in automation. Many factors have to be taken into consideration, among them, quality control and actual value. There are too many jobs today that require human interaction and judgement. Machines can be programmed for repetitive tasks. Still, they break down. In a factory setting, that can be costly. A good example is Packard Electric's sonic welder. To begin with, it had a human operating it. That was how the problem was discovered. Welds were not holding, but the machine was unable to determine it. So, now you have a computerized machine not working and parts needing repaired, on top of parts needing to be made. The specialist in charge of repairing the machine was unavailable as it occurred on second shift. Third shift wouldn't have access to him either. Maintenance had a problem. I was doing data entry in a different department and the maintenance man came to me because he was stuck. I was doing entry level work, but he came to me because I knew something about computers. I was overqualified for my job. He explained how it worked, showed me the program, and I thought on it, and acted. I figured out a solution and the machine was back in production for the rest of the shift and the next. When the specialist came in the next day, he did the right repair needed, and commented that I did a great job for someone not trained on the machine. My boss in QC even was happy because I saved the company about $50 K in lost production. Domino effect. One hour of human Intervention more than paid my wages for the year. I could have declined for several reasons, but instead, looked at the big picture.

And that's how businesses have to determine expenditures for automation. It doesn't matter if the expenditure is an automated welder, a forklift to unload trucks, a computerized deep fryer, whatever.

Go shopping at Walmart. Go through the self service checkout. Notice that there is a human overseeing it. That automated fryer? Human oversees that. Any wonder there always seems to be one or three registers out of order. Robotics is not always the answer, especially for small businesses. When my father in law owned his woodshop, he used regular table saws because the cost of gang saws was prohibitive for his needs.

Let's use McDonald's as an example here. Minimum wage goes up. What happens? The lazy, goofy, procrastinating employees will all get fired. Lost jobs, bad economy. What else? If the workforce is kept, prices would go up on food. What would be a $5 burger now could easily become $7.50 or $10 burger. People would ask for raises from their work to keep up with the growing prices. The value of money would go down, massive inflation, leading to a horrible economy, and possibly world war, due to the USA's economy being possibly the most important on earth. Let's look at another example, a real estate company. Say, the wage gets moved to $15 an hour. That is not fair to employees who work their full-time and make just over that. They would ask for raises. Part-time employees would get fired. The prices of houses would skyrocket. The availability of employees would dwindle. The amount of houses being shown-off would hit an all-time low. Neither scenario is beneficial to anybody. Think outside of your own greedy, selfish small peanut of a mind and realize what effects your ridiculous demands will have on our economy.

Why does McDonalds have "lazy, goofy, procrastinating employees"? After more than a half century, they decided to look into that. Their experiment? They selected several corporate owned stores, and gave everybody, including new hires, a raise. About $1 an hour. The numbers speak for themselves.

Stores saved about $1000 a month on training. If you're old enough to get a job, apply and tell the owner you need absolutely no training. For anything. As a former business owner, I can tell you, even the owner has to train himself. I think there were a dozen stores in this test. In one year, they saved about $150k. Why? Key item that plays throughout the experiment: Employee retention. The minimum wage caused them to only have the worst employees from applying for the jobs. They may stay a few months, but the turnover ration was high. A 20 man crew may have as many as 100 different people fill those positions over a 1 year period. The reason so many employees seem like they don't know what they're doing is because they don't. Many have less than a couple weeks on the job.

So they save money on training. That's almost a wash for the higher pay. What aboyt profits?

This is the good part. Profits rose dramatically. Why? Employees stayed and became good at their jobs. You may think it's a no brainer job, but there are a lot of decisions involved in getting that Big Mac to you. As they worked longer at their jobs, they got more efficient. Questions they once asked their manager they can now answer. Waiting time for orders dropped dramatically. Orders were processed correctly. Customers were happy to choose them over the competition because of these little things. This experiment also had another, unexpected benefit: employee morale. Employees, treated like an asset, treat customers better, are less likely to call in sick, and overall, project a positive image. Bottom line: at the end if one year, profits were up. McDonald's rolled this out to all of their corporate stores earlier this year. They are also stressing that their franchises do likewise. How the franchises handle it is up to them, but I expect they'll continue on the old way, with lower profits because it's always been done that way.

As for businesses shutting down, I can't think of a real businessman that would shut his business down because of the minimum wage going up. Businesses are in business to make money.

You would be surprised

I have been in the work force since 1972/and I have yet to come across a businessman that shut down for the sole purpose of higher wages. Generally, it's either retirement or poir management. Poor management includes buying companies, over extending credit while cutting costs elsewhere.

In the 1980s, unions agreed to many concessions on compensation to keep companies in business. Companies still closed down.

High wage leads to problems that cause businesses to go out of business. Just because you've never seen it, doesn't mean it's never happened. It's not that the protests are unreasonable, it is the increase in value. Let the economy settle, before forcing the country into this

If an increase in wages causes a business to fold, it is poir business practices all the way around. New businesses fold right and left because they are under funded and don't take into consideration future events. A friend opened a Vape store a couple years ago. No problem. They had a great plan, but the state decided to require Vape stores to have a tobacco license a month after they opened. Fast growth without planning for downturns also helps. Proof is in the last decade without a raise in minimum wage. That argument falls flat.

Austerity is never a solution. It leads to a loss of revenues to all busi esses.

I do not understand what you are saying at all, because of your horrible spelling, also, I want to end this argument, my point is there are negative effects as well as positive. I did not disagree with your point, but you do not see what harm this minimum wage could go. Goodbye. I won't respond anymore.

Fine. Just to let you know, be prepared to back up your arguments with facts and hierarchical evidence that supports your thesis. Without it, you lose the argument.

A few weeks ago I spoke with the former scheduling manager of a local, corporate owned nursing home chain. She was having trouble hiring CNAs. They were quitting after a month or so and going to work at Burger King. Why? Because the nursing home only paid minimum wage for their CNAs. After I had a talk with the marketing director of the local franchise, BK took it to heart to follow through. They raised their wages and business improved. And this was years before the McDonald's experiment. Why bust your tail for minimum wage after incurring debt to go to school when you can make more money working fast food. Of course, the corporation had difficulty covering higher wages: their legal fees kept going up because they kept violating state regs.

You have to take into. Consideration, in making your claims, that they are what you have been taught. You fail to take into real world experience. I have a wide background in several fields and practical knowledge in others. Add to that, actual classroom training.

Let's look at real life "classroom experiments". Best cases would be to compare two states in this country. Minnesota representing my experience and Kansas representing your theory.

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As you go through the various articles you'll see real world examples. Low wages do not generate or stimulate the economy. Nor do low taxes, but that's another topic.

As minimum wage grows, so does the ability for these low wage earners to purchase other goods. Its not a case of deciding between dinner tonight and that new pair of shoes you need. Not want, need. Higher wages generates more consumerism. The fallacy of prices going up is an easy bubble to burst. McDonald's raises the price of a quarter pounder a buck because minimum wage goes up. So does every other restaurant. Prices will go up, regardless if the people producing the product are paid more or not.

DerUbersau has a very good point. Machines can take people's places on jobs. That is an easy solution, because robots do not have to be paid, not to mention they can keep the business open longer. The only bad effect that will have is less jobs for people. Think about it for more than .4 seconds.

Yes, he has a point, but for the wrong argument. I've used these kiosks since before the turn of the century, so they aren't anything new. The cost of staffing does not go down, though. Instead, staff is moved around to other positions because of increased orders. Today, you may have three order takers at the counter and one at the drive thru. The counter people will be replaced by 10 kiosks. Now you need more people in the kitchen to handle those orders in the kitchen. Another one to put the orders together. And you'll still have somebody at the drive through window to pass the food out.

We are going through the buggy whip change. There are still people making buggy whips, but not in the number there was in 1816. Same with almost everything. Today's order takers will move on to other businesses or industries. Full service restaraunts still exist, as do bars. They require the human element.

Don't forget girls dropping out may also lead to these jobs!

Best Christmas Wishes for you, too.

now i get it