The people in France are like fish in a barrel because of gun control laws

this recent terrorist attack has proven to us that banning guns is useless. driving a truck with explosives into a crowd can cause just as many casualties. what now liberals! are we going to ban trucks?

The suspect was an immigrant with a police record. Being an immigrant looking for a better life is one thing, but not working and being a criminal, send him back where he came from.

They attack whomever, WHENEVER they choose! They fear nobody, including people with guns! They set out to commit suicide, HATER! Why the heck do they care if their potential victims are carrying concealed weapons?

"They attack whomever, WHENEVER they choose! They fear nobody, including people with guns! They set out to commit suicide, HATER!"

Obviously, they fear no one. That isn't the POINT.

"Why the heck do they care if their potential victims are carrying concealed weapons?"

They don't, but if someone there had a gun, maybe they could've shot the driver before he killed anyone, or at least before he killed as many as he did.

Are you that dumb?

Terrorists do not give a mindless DAMN if you are carrying a concealed weapon! Especially when they know that a person carrying also has to rummage through their respective holding place (holster, handbag, et al) and then release the "safety" before even being able to use the gun.

But if you want to kill a bunch of people, it's Logical to go where no one can fight back. You'll get more people. Isis is smarter than you give them credit.

Anti-2nd Amendment liberals have a tough time with logic.

Sounds like you have a tough time with over-generalization and under-substantiation.

The fact that anti-2nd amendment libs like you want guns banned because of a few shootings is the same. So that would mean you have a tough time with over-generalization, and under-substantiation on TOP of logic and hypocrisy.

Get a sense of humor kid.

They do care if their potential victims might have guns. That is precisely why they hit countries where civilians are not allowed to own and when they hit us here they choose "gun free" zones where they know they will have an unarmed victim pool. As of yet I have not seen any terrorists attack a police station here, a gun show, or an NRA convention.

Oh they absolutely target gun free zones because they know the risk is less. A few have targeted gun free zones and made a mistake and paid for it. The guy that attacked a church because he assumed it was gun free did not realize his mistake until after he was shot by a parishioner who also volunteered and served as security. Why would a church need security if they had God? Because God may not stop the attack, but a pistol will. :-) She was there precisely because of an earlier incident where a church was attacked and she suggested her church needed more security. As a former police officer she offered her services and it's a good thing she did, God was not there but she was..with her pistol. Look it up..New Life Church shooting..even Snopes, who is notorious for being left leaning, gave this a "Partly true " Rating because it does prove the point that when there IS a person with a gun there to defend the victim count is lower.

In Texas the only gun-free zones are government buildings and areas such as public schools and the VA, etc. There are some privately owned businesses that are under the owner's discretion, but almost all areas in Texas are not gun free zones.

In fact, Texas is open carry state and I have seen people walking around with their pistols on their hips. Great stuff.

Here in AZ you can carry concealed concealed without a license or permit so the bad guys have NO idea if you are armed or not. That's why most of the shootings, there a lot here in Phoenix, involve crook shooting crook or cop shooting crook and not crook shooting unarmed victim.

Sounds like Texas isn't on the top target list of any terrorist.

Well...Dallas....

Well a terrorist with a ground assault. The BLM shooter was probably sniping specifically because of the armed citizens.

Could be, but more likely because the cops were armed. Most of the crowed were BLM protesters. They would have cheered him on.

That's true unfortunately. Some of them were praising the Nice, France attack. Sickening

Most do have signs, that is why they are targeted. However it is pretty common knowledge that you cannot carry in public buildings like court houses, post offices, libraries, etc and other than in the south most churches don't allow guns. It is also against the law to have guns near or at a school. I am very nearly breaking the law every time I leave my house because I carry and I live right across the street from an elementary school. The closest grocery store to me has a sign out front with a silhouette of a Browning hi-power 9mm with the red circle and slash though it signifying they don't allow those there. Luckily, I don't carry a Browning, I carry a Ruger .380 or a Glock .40 cal. :-)

But then riddle me this: Why only Belgium and France? Why not Britain, Spain, Sweden, Norway, Germany, Austria, Finland.... They all have strict gun control, and no terror attacks in the past ten years or so.There has to be a bit more to it than "gun laws". Social problems, the mass, the getthos, for example.

Britain and Spain were bombed awhile back. They have since kept better watch on Muslims and thwarted a few other attacks. Belgium and France have virtually no immigration restrictions and they have been flooded with Muslims. Finland and Sweden have changed their policies after all the sexual assaults and they are kicking the Muslims out.

Aw, come on; these terror attacks were 10 years back and Sweden, Germany, Britain, Spain are still being flooded and muslims can do virtually whatever they want. Rapes go up, there were stones being thrown at gays, women attacked for their clothing, sharia police patrolling parts of the cities...and yet, no terror attacks despite the lack of guns among the population. Unless you want to count these actions as terror attacks (wouldn't entirely disagree)

Ummmm see the news today?

Gun control: Working GREAT in Japan. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36890655

Japan wasn't a terror attack, though. And I never claimed gun control was "working" - if you want a gun, you get one. I just disagree with the theory that terror attacks happen because the public is unarmed. They happen bc there are crazy assholes blaming their falures on the rest of the world/religious fanatcis see other people as "worthless" and deciding to kill them. Otherwise, there would no terror at all in the US and Norway would be bombed every day.

Except you're forgetting that the POLICE carry weapons, and the terrorists usually wind up being gunned down. Again, they don't care about guns. Their attacks are swift and FAIRLY direct! It isn't random, it's pre-planned.

Their point is to kill an many people as they can, that's why they choose places where they will encounter the least resistance. Come on, this is pretty simple stuff.

The street cops in Paris do NOT carry weapons. That is exactly why 2 were killed in the Hebdo shooting.

The terrorist had them!

Yep, and grenades too. Gun control laws only take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. When will the libs learn??

I've noticed many replies to your posts are being downvoted and hidden. If it's you that's doing it how about growing up and letting everybody's views be seen? Would you like every one of your posts downvoted and hidden?

It takes MULTIPLE people doing that to make a comment low rated. I just got done telling you that I respect the rights of people protesting Trump even though I support him and you think I want to suppress the opinions of others? I downvote trolls like tttony and people who attack me. What the hell is your problem with me?

I don't have a problem with you I find it interesting that on this and other threads many of replies to YOUR posts are hidden. Why would only replies to your posts be hidden? As for your other question. I don't remember ever downvoting any comment since I've been here. If it takes "multiple" downvotes like you stated then mine wouldn't matter if I did them? Correct?

I'm looking right now and it's not just replies to my comments that are hidden. Pay more attention. Trolls like tttony or this baconbreath are generally downvoted to hidden comments on this site. Not sure why you want to defend users like baconbreath who is insulting me saying
"Your disregard for logic is as gaping, expansive and wide-set as your girlfriend's va**na."

Didn't realize I defended anyone nor was I intending to. I merely asked a question.

"If it's you that's doing it how about growing up and letting everybody's views be seen?"

Sounds like you're defending all the users who have hidden comments.

Seems a good by product of my intention to see posts without having to click on a hidden comment which makes reading and replying difficult. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Funny how I was the one defending liberals rights to protest while you were arguing with me saying they were ALL violent. If I want to downvote someone who insults me on MY meme, it's none of your damn business. Why don't you go ask everyone on here if they downvoted someone's comment. Trolls like this tttony guy only have an account to argue with other users and insult them. I'm not the only one who has a problem with him or other trolls and downvote them. If clicking on a hidden comment is so much trouble for you, you're more than welcome to leave and visit another meme.

You're correct. I'll just bypass your little kid rants.

"You're correct. I'll just bypass your little kid rants."

Coming from the guy who got so upset over a video I linked that YOU went on a rant bitching about the Christians and my defense of them. Followed by you accusing me of being responsible for the hidden comments. You must be so mature. And the Christian still had every right to be at that festival protesting the Islamic take-over of America.

Go back and read my post again about the downvoting. I said "IF" you are the person. I guess you were being it hurt your butt so bad. As for your video. The Christians had a right to protest and they got what most protestors get. If it wasn't a Christian/Muslim thing you wouldn't be here whining about it. Muslims coming in is no different than what happened to Miami in the 80's with the Cubans. Are you still supporting the protests of Cuban immigrants?

Correction**

I compared
assualt ( violence)
To
Sexual assault ( violence)

Yea...chew on that. Go read more reza aslan books mr. Religious scholar.

Yeah you said "if" and then proceeded to tell me to "grow up".

"If it wasn't a Christian/Muslim thing you wouldn't be here whining about it."

Once again, we're on MY meme right now, you can visit another meme if you'd like to. I'm opposed to Islam because they're barbarians who can't fit into modern society. These are people who think it's their duty from allah to kill non-muslims and rape non-muslim women to humilate them.

Your cuban analogy is ridiculous. See above.

I guess you have a comprehension problem. The word "IF" negates everything after it if you were not the person who did the downvoting. No, my Cuban analogy is on target. I guess you weren't around to see how Miami became a raping, killing, corrupt, crime ridden area for a decade until the majority of the other races left leaving it mostly Hispanic.

And now more insults, so mature. Oh please, that's like insulting someone and saying "no offense" afterwards and acting like they can't be offended because of the phrase "no offense" at the end. I still don't get why wanted to start an argument about the video or about downvotes.

No I wasn't around for the cuban crime wave but I doubt they were all like scarface. You're comparing some rogue criminals to an organized idealogy with ONE agenda. The goal of Islam is to take over America and the western world. How many of these cubans cared about doing that?

This is getting old. And pointless.

It was worse than what Scarface showed. There was an international warning for tourists not to go there. As for taking over? They did. Miami is now referred to as "North Cuba" to locals who stayed in the South Florida areal. As for the "insult" I merely showed where your comprehension lacked because of your complete disregard of the qualifier "IF". IF it wasn't you than it didn't apply. Easy as that. A simple "no, it wasn't me" would have ended it. Have fun complaining about the Muslims. Next time show a video of Christians throwing things at the people at abortion clinics or even the killing of doctors who perform them.

O Renegade think of what u wish but in the end it shall be u who burns and finds no mercy. Spread lies to all the corners of this world and still you will burn

https://youtu.be/klHN-L5Chko

https://youtu.be/qgLWcsbOD8k

"As for the "insult" I merely showed where your comprehension lacked because of your complete disregard of the qualifier "IF". IF it wasn't you than it didn't apply. Easy as that. A simple "no, it wasn't me" would have ended it."

I don't have comprehension problems bud. If anyone does, it's you because you thought all of the hidden comments were replies to me when they aren't. It doesn't matter if you said "if" or not. I don't like your accusations, and I don't appreciate your attitude. Don't tell me how I should have responded. YOU shouldn't have brought it up in the first place but you were obviously upset over me defending the Christians in that video and wanted to start some random bullshit with me about downvotes.

Your analogy is dumb. Are the Cubans forcing everyone in Miami to convert to their religion, or have they implement a set of laws and punishments like sharia? Are they committing terrorist attacks because of their idealogy?

You clearly have some issues with Christians. Why you're taking your issues out on me, I don't know since I'm not religious. I linked that video because it was relevant to the issue. Dearborn has become an Islamic city for all intents and purposes. The square in the middle of that festival had an Arabic name. Talk all you want about anti-abortion Christians, at least they don't believe that non-Christians should be killed or be raped, or that you should be killed for leaving Christianity. Nor do they think it's acceptable to marry and have sex with little girls at the age of 9 like Muslims in Islamic nations do thanks to their pedophile, con-artist founder.

More comprehension problems from you. I have issues with any group inciting problems which I stated multiple times. I'm not taking anything out on you. You posted a link to a video and I gave you a reply that you can't handle because it doesn't fit in with your views. Plain and simple, the Christians shouldn't have been there. Even the cops said so and do you think the cops are Pro-Muslim? Nope, they know a bad situation regardless of affiliation. You're just on an anti-Muslim rant.

"Ok. Nice ramble."

You keep saying you're done, but keep insulting me. Just can't give up without getting in the last word huh?

You are clearly upset over my defense of the Christians and my views. That's why you wanted to start some random shit with me about hidden comments. Get over it.

That's the same type of logic the German president gives her woman citizens. "They shouldnt have been out in their free country, it's their own fault they got raped." Your comments are irrational and disgusting. Quite frankly, anti-american, anti-freedom. It's funny, now your true colors come out. You are a muslim. Now i undetstand.

LOL, what a f**ktard. Because I don't believe all Muslims are bad and know they aren't. Sith and I guess you just have a hard on for Muslims. Especially the woman he "helps" blaming all of them. Both of you are pathetic.

What you seem to fail to understand is that Islam is violating human rights and killing people TODAY. Islam is 1400 years old. Why haven't they changed yet? Why aren't the peaceful Muslims standing up and trying to ban sharia law? You are supporting the oppression of women by defending the idealogy of Islam.

I thought I told you to stay off my memes. I'll be reporting you again now for harassment, and for using an alternate account to upvote your own comments and to downvote mine.

I don't have an alt account and the only down vote you're getting is from this account. Ever think there are Muslims on here that hate you and down vote your comments?

I'm on the meme because your butt buddy replied to MY post. If I'm upvoting why does it take 50 minutes to reply because you two keep downvoting my comments. Apparently the mods keep it that way and don't want to see both sides of the issue and YOUR clear violation of the Terms of Use. A friend of yours? I'm not defending the ideology of Islam I'm defending the people who are NOT doing anything. It's not the same and you're a moron for comparing them. Those people who are not doing anything nor support Sharia are the same as the Jewish who don't follow the Talmud. The Muslims I know are too afraid at this point to say anything because no one can save them from the extremists. That's something else your ego won't let you understand. They are all over the comments of your "friend" Aynaz's Youtube videos. Your crusade will do nothing to expedite the reformation of the people and it will definitely NOT stop the religion. You don't know or understand the concept and evolution of religion. It's nothing more than a way to gather people for political movement. At this point I could care less what the mods do. I use the site for what I want and it doesn't require logging in and can always create another account later from a different IP or VPN. See you then, f**ktard.

Again, only about 10% of Muslims are said to be extremists. The 90% who you're defending should be able to rise up and ban sharia law from Islamic nations.

I don't give a shit about what you think you know about me or what I know. I know that religion is a means to control the masses. All I care about is human rights being protected. I'm not attacking the peaceful Muslims who aren't obeying their religion. All you've done is defend Islam when you know damn well that it's responsible for women like my friend being abused, killings and all around human rights violations TODAY. Sharia law needs to be banned and the only way to make that happen is to raise awareness against it.

Sure

Thats a flag. So you are just going to dismiss my other comment? What big logic you have!

Your comparison is ridiculous that's why I didn't answer and shows your stupidity. So the cops were wrong? Since they wanted the protestors to leave are you going to accuse the cops of being Muslim? LOL, dumbass. Like I said in my previous post if the situation had Muslims protesting a Christian celebration you and Sith would be all over it like the shit flies you are saying the Muslims shouldn't be there.

You and Sith must be butt buddies. The two of you remind me of the Meth kids meme. Backwoods retards. I'm surprised you're not members of the Westboro Baptists even if Sith says he's not religious both of you would fit right in. As for religion they are ALL bullshit. The fake "Messiah" with everyone goes to hell unless you believe in him. Just a tad bit arrogant, huh? I take it that's your preferred herd being you got offended? The "Chosen people" who were "chosen" by the god THEY created and the Muslims following the words of a madman? All of the followers are brain dead sheep. Religion is nothing more than a political ploy to control people. Your butt buddy likes to call it "deflection" but that's his ignorance. It's a comparison and all religions go through the same cycle because they cause separation of people. My religious studies are on the theory of religion not individual ideals. They are ALL the same in intent. Islam isn't going away anymore than Judaism or Christianity. It will reform just like the other two after many people are killed in the name of "God". Judaism and Christianity were both terrorist religions in their early years. The South American natives and the Middle East prior to Islam can attest to that. This is about morons not leaving others alone. You, Sith and the protestors in the video are those morons.

You're the one who got upset over the video and went on a long rant about it. You clearly are projecting your issues with Christians on me. You're just on an anti-Christian rant. If you had watched the entire video, you would've seen that the city leaders DO have an agenda because they are working with Obama.

Once again, if I can't handle differing opinions, then why have I defended the rights of liberals protesting Trump? More comprehension problems from you.

"Even the cops said so and do you think the cops are Pro-Muslim? Nope, they know a bad situation regardless of affiliation."

How were they "inciting problems"? Want to talk about inciting problems? How about the Quran. You can't take away freedoms like the right to protest in the name of safety. It was a bad situation BECAUSE OF THE MUSLIMS. The protesters weren't even preaching or talking, they were just standing there with signs. The cops LIED saying they couldn't spare TWO officers, and yet escorted them out and pulled them over with 12. The protesters had every right to be there. This is America, people have a right to protest. I suppose you would also defend the cops in cleveland who tried to suspend the 2nd Amendment for the Republican convention?

I didn't get "upset" over the video I merely stated my opinion of what I saw. Now you're just repeating yourself to keep the thread going and satisfy your need to whine. You do it to everyone from what I see in posts to others. Have a great life.

You see "not u" your response of "if christians" doesn't apply, because it was Muslims (as usual ) being violent. It's the exact same thing. Quit trying to rewrite the narrative. You are really being a liberal right now. Watch I'll spell it out for you since you are mentally incapable.

You said it's the Christians fault for being there.

German woman's fault for being there.

Same thing. Plus you are violating rules by using an alternate account. This meme is to old for anyone to upvote you. Considering No one likes you. And if you do have a friend upvoting you, why don't the show themselves. Bet they have less then 10k points. You're pathetic.

You two cry babies keep down voting my stuff even when it doesn't concern you. You compared rape with a protest. You're a complete moron.

You said it was the Christians fault they were attacked by Muslims.

The German President said it was the women's fault for being groped and raped (same as what sharia law says).

Your logic either applies to both, or neither, you can't pick and choose. You're blaming the victims.

You have yet to denounce the abuse of Muslim women under Islam. You're a pitiful excuse for a human being.

"Now you're just repeating yourself to keep the thread going and satisfy your need to whine."

YOU are the one who started this thread in the first place by WHINING about hidden comments after saying you "were done". I said this thread was getting old and pointless way back but you keep trying to get the final word. Quit trying to feign some kind of moral high ground here.

You don't like Christians protesting a Muslim festival, people that were just standing around peacefully holding signs. You claim Christians would've treated Muslims the same if they were protesting an Easter festival. For one, America isn't their country so if they don't like Easter they can leave. Two, the Muslim in France wanted to protest their festival. He did it by plowing through a crowd with a truck killing and injuring 200 innocent people, including women and kids. THAT'S what I don't like. I don't see any Christians murdering innocent people at festivals or shooting up night clubs or trying to kill people on a train with an axe.

I hope you figure out who the true enemy is, and it's not people protesting by standing around holding signs.

Ok. Nice ramble.

As a matter of fact, someone had been going around downvoting MY comments, it wouldn't happen to be you now would it?

So why do we have laws against murder if only law-abiding citizens follow the law? If a criminal breaks a law does that invalidate the purpose of the law? Your disregard for logic is as gaping, expansive and wide-set as your girlfriend's va**na.

You have a fundamental flaw in logic that you touched on yourself. "The purpose of the law" is certainly king. Purpose of the law making murder illegal? To protect innocent human life, specifically of that nation's citizens from other citizens. Now you seem to think that the purpose of a law banning guns would also be to protect that nation's innocent citizenry. There, we differ. In the past, law-abiding gentleman were expected to carry guns to protect the innocent. You coming today, that still happens from time to time. Shootings are thwarted in their infancy by an honest citizen carrying a gun. Furthermore, Switzerland has one of the lowest crime rates in the Free World, along with 0 terrorist attacks, and every single one of their citizens above the age of 16 is in their standing army. It makes a difference when you're planning a robbery or attack to know that everyone has a fun and is trained in how to use it. Unless the bad guy is truly insane (a real possibility, I admit) that makes their odds of survival pretty low. Since most people, including criminals, are interested in preserving their lives, that makes it an incredibly important factor in their decision making.

There is no law against commiting murder. The law penalizes the act of murder--after the fact.

When there's been a death, it must first be established by an ME that death was caused by another, ie, homicide. If so, a prosecutor then attempts to identify the person(s) who caused the death and whether the taking of life was justifiable (ie, self defense) or actionable (ie, murder).

The laws kick in as penalties only after that last part results in a guilty verdict.

The Law of Moses, to the contrary, explicitly forbids the act of murder up front.

"The Law of Moses, to the contrary, explicitly forbids the act of murder up front" Do you smoke a lot of pot? ALL laws are this way.

You're stating my angle...before, I would aver, an officer of the court set me straight on the matter.

If he was wrong, then there s/b at least 50 state and 1 federal law that forbids people to murder.

Google is ready when you are.

Maybe I misunderstood you comment about Moses. The other about the law isn't what I referred to. Are you stating someone can get away with murder but not under Moses's law if found innocent but actually did the crime?

Not sure I understand your question. If I do, this is my worthless oponion: under any law it is possible to get away with murder if only b/c nothing in life is perfect every time. I fear this response is not on target.

In fairness, I get what people mean when the phrase "law against murder" is used. Not trying to be obnoxious...just adding the clarification served up to me by an attorney when I used that phrase not long ago.

I know. WTF? Must be Rod Serlings kid.

The penalty would be that elusive law against murder.

Sorry, multiple voice-text fails there. You coming today should have been You know, today... Also, it translated gun to fun later on. Lastly, I should have added ", and they know it" after "pretty low."