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17 ups, 3y,
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But I thought Islam was a "religion of peace." That's just a catchphrase nobody actually believes. | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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27 ups, 3y,
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Well, SOME people believe it...
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12 ups, 3y,
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You should submit that.
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9 ups, 3y
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1 up, 3y
Love this.
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8 ups, 3y,
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Christianity has more people and dominates more major countries than Islam. Ergo, more Christians go off to war than Muslims. But not every war is caused by Christianity or Islam, per se.

It remains that 99% of international terror attacks are committed by Muslims and no other religion on earth wages warfare against all other religions as does Islam.
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10 ups, 3y
Great point. Here's one of the many "peaceful" verses from the Quran:

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

No other religion has ANYTHING like that in their particular holy texts.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Depends on your definition of "terror attacks" because usually people ignore all of the other militant organisations operating worldwide. I've referenced this before:

Islamic terrorism is the most PROFOUND terrorism, but not the majority. One of the biggest known terrorist groups in the world is a bunch of pasty Catholic/Christian people in Ireland running an armed nationalist resistance movement.
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3 ups, 3y,
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They are not an organized religious group fighting to enforce the Catholic faith on others or killing just because someone is not catholic, that being the distinction.
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1 up, 3y,
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Well, yeah certainly. If you were to say "religiously based terror attacks" then unequivocally Islam is #1. But on a wide scale of people who use violence to strike fear into the hearts of the public then they have a ways to go. Not that they should go that way at all, but still.
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2 ups, 3y,
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I know, it probably feels like I am splitting hairs, but I do think it is important to distinguish the reason behind the violence in order to work towards a solution, if one can be found.
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1 up, 3y,
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I know the feeling, seeing as we're both splitting hairs. I'm more focused on the semantics of the word "terrorism" and you more so the root cause.

As a root cause for terrorist attacks, Islam is the leader in that statistic. The non-religious terrorist organisations have no goal that you can really link them together with. The IRA doesn't care about FALN (Venezuelan Liberation Army) or the current political state of Venezuela, nor the latter about Ireland.

All that matters to Islamic terrorists is spreading Islam by the sword. And bomb, and gun.
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2 ups, 3y,
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And that multiplies by the millions the number of potential followers that "could" "COULD" be radicalized, and I speak mainly of the young who are being brought up and practically brainwashed to hate the west. The others it's all about civil war of sorts.
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1 up, 3y
Wolves in sheep's clothing, and the problem is that anything from 0 sheep to all sheep could be a wolf.

Well that's a bad analogy, as that would imply that they are already radicalised.

A better analogy would be "sleeper cells"
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2 ups, 3y,
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Christian has violent aspects, it's undeniable. But for the most part the religion has matured past these violent aspects, starting with the 1600's or so. What I think is that Islam hasn't had enough time to outgrow it's violent aspects, which it will.
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1 up, 3y,
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Islam has been around for thousands of years. They've had plenty of time.
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0 ups, 3y
Over a millennia, under 2.

Still had plenty of time, though.
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4 ups, 3y,
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If you read my comment again, you'll see that I'm not smashing Islam for violence.

I'm smashing the liars who spout that it's a "religion of peace" when they know very well that it isn't.
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1 up, 3y,
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I no longer believe that. What I'm smashing is the fact that people believe that their own religion is the peaceful one, when it is clear that it isn't.
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1 up, 3y
Human beings are inherently violent. So it would be very hard for any religion to make the claim that there is no violence associated with it.

But I don't have to be able to claim my religion is peaceful in order to point out that the statement "Islam is a religion of peace" is a lie.
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4 ups, 3y,
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At least Jesus, Buddha and other religious figures didn't **pe little girls.
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4 ups, 3y
and boys
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0 ups, 3y
Islam's extremists throw gays off of rooftops. Christian extremists hold signs that says "God hates f*gs." But Christianity is the religion of hate. Yeah...
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15 ups, 3y,
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Good meme. Sadly, this is the typical liberal response.
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13 ups, 3y,
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It's all part of the liberal curriculum lol
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10 ups, 3y,
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Tbh, I dislike leftists more than liberals. Libs just disagree with conservatives, and that's okay. Leftists shove it down our throats and burn us in hell aka "the justice system" if we disobey their decrees. Their ultimate weapon is deflection.
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10 ups, 3y,
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I agree, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing, that's what democracy is all about. It's the far left who aren't rational.
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8 ups, 3y,
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Yeah. I try to be diplomatic, but it's hard when the other side is blinded by their own self-righteousness of saving humanity from poverty, racism, violence, etc.
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5 ups, 3y
In order to cross the aisle in a debate, you actually have to be near the aisle to begin with. Someone once told me, "when people compromise, everyone loses, not everyone wins."

This is the exact selfish attitude that brings us directly into the congressional mess and inaction we've seen these last many years. You will never get everything you want in a democracy, because that's not how it works.
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1 up, 3y
For better or for worse, that is not untrue.
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12 ups, 3y
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14 ups, 3y,
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7 ups, 3y
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12 ups, 3y,
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Thanks though!
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13 ups, 3y
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12 ups, 3y,
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I wasn't a repost for me!
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1 up, 3y
Will do!
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13 ups, 3y,
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12 ups, 3y
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13 ups, 3y,
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8 ups, 3y
Can't we just leave it at faith? Organized it tends to get a little creepy.
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11 ups, 3y,
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9 ups, 3y,
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9 ups, 3y,
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Lol!
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11 ups, 3y,
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4 ups, 3y
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3 ups, 3y
seems legit
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4 ups, 3y,
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U! UR THE STUPIFPD INFIDEL THAT WON'T STOP BEING RACIST
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11 ups, 3y
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10 ups, 3y
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12 ups, 3y,
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Not a racist though.
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6 ups, 3y,
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Typical Crybaby Ron50
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11 ups, 3y,
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Yeah, apparently one of his favorite things to do imgflip is to follow me around and call me a racist
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5 ups, 3y
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13 ups, 3y,
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Sorta like the whole so ugly it's cute thing
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15 ups, 3y,
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4 ups, 3y,
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Um sir it says kill the non believers but look, the Hindu's know of God so not them,the Buddhists do to so no killing
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6 ups, 3y
So by the standards YOU just layed out, without taking anything out of context, it's a-okay to kill pagans, right?
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9 ups, 3y,
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Kids of the 70's remember THIS Isis.....
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2 ups, 3y
Best legs ever in the superhero game, although there were obvious omissions of what should have been an upskirt bonanza on that show. :)
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13 ups, 3y
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10 ups, 3y
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7 ups, 3y,
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Islam had its time and place, but in the modern world, it needs a reform. +1.
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11 ups, 3y
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1 up, 3y
Exactly.

When someone tosses out the crusades as an example of violent Christianity in comparison to jihad, I have to remind them that the catholics did that 700 years ago, not yesterday.
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7 ups, 3y,
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One day Mohammad heard one of his wives was leaving him....he raced home and found her sitting outside their tent with all her shit packed up...he said to her,
"I heard you're leaving me"
"Yes"...she said...."I heard your other wives saying you were a pedophile"
Mohammad sat beside her for a minute and finally replied,
"That's a mighty big word for a 9 year old"

BAM!
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1 up, 3y,
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is that ur real face?
just by curiostity
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2 ups, 3y
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2 ups, 3y
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2 ups, 3y,
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1 up, 3y,
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Yeah, fake Christians hold signs, yelling"God hates f*gs," while Islamic extremists actually beheads f*gs. Nice try.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Now, SpursFan, we've had this discussion before. I am not against Christianity but embrace its best tenets. I'm against those who use subjective interpretations of any religion to project their secular prejudices, as above with Westboro Baptist. Yes, they are fake Christians, but adherents of ISIS, al-Qaeda, and the most fanatical jihadists are fake Muslims. If labeling all Christians as bad for the misguided actions of a few is obviously wrong so is labeling all Muslims as murderous fanatics for the hideous methods of a small minority.

Two bits of advice: don't get immediately defensive if you feel someone is besmirching your beliefs. They may be like me, someone who is defending ideals originally discovered through said religion. I honestly believe, through my early church learnings and deep religious college courses, that if Christ were around today he would despair at what is being taught about Muslims in his name. Christians are not an army fighting other beliefs, but supposed to be those who love even the lost. Secondly, I would recommend giving renegade_sith's arguments a good questioning. Not to get overly dramatic, but if anybody here was speaking in the syrupy voice of Satan it would be him. When looking through these arguments just remember your future judgment before a merciful and loving God and think of what He might perceive of it.
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2 ups, 3y,
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I don't remember who on here I've had certain discussions with. Sorry.

Also, I do get defensive when it comes to my religious beliefs. Really the only thing I get defensive about. I take my beliefs seriously.
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3 ups, 3y,
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I take your beliefs seriously. Just as I take mine seriously. I will engage with you because you seem serious and decent (unlike others on this thread who seem angry and bitter). I will never directly denigrate your religion as I grew up in it too. And it is the teachings that I received back then that makes me despair at the rubbish spewed by the likes of renegade_sith. Casting aspersions upon ALL Muslims for the atrocities of a few is not the way of Christ.

By the way, sorry to hear about Duncan's retirement. He was a pleasure to watch despite often beating on my Blazers. Does that help the memory a bit? :)
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1 up, 3y,
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Yeah, I'm a bit depressed about his retirement. Though he would stick it out one more year.
3 ups, 3y
Good ol' renegade_sith used our conversing to try and get at me below. Sad man. Really not the type you should get your facts from.

Spurs will be good - until Parker retires. With Aldridge also you'll have a couple more years of solid teams. Spurs are the pro basketball organization all other teams should aspire to. :)
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2 ups, 3y,
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I often wonder about my country and where it's heading to. People mindlessly attacking Muslims just as Germans attacked the Jewish people in the 1930s. Adolf Hitler had his 'evidence' of their perfidy too. If you and people who thought like you came to power in this country we would end up with concentration camps, not just full of Muslims but others, like the 'ignorant' liberals like myself. All tyranny starts with self-righteousness. I say none of this with anger but with resignation. I'd like to think you are fighting for the cause you think you are but you're too full of hate. But I don't despair, your arguments are cramped and small, and are the evidence of a limited mind. You will die having no effect on this earth, and if there is a hell you will end up there.
0 ups, 3y
What you don't get is that women in every religion are being abused hmmm lets se the only Arab countries that do this are the Saudis the people in Yemen and that's all but in the US women are being **ped and trapped for 18 years in a phsycos house for 18 years plus the US made the terrorists because the false attack on Iraq I think Bill Clinton or bush made that choice one more time the Quran doesn't say to **pe and trap women it is against it ok and again the Quran is not violent it says to believe so you won't go to hell and it says to defend yourselves and Mohammad never married a 9 year old how would you know it didn't say in the Quran so idk how you got that
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3 ups, 3y,
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Try the Old Testament, which has passages similar in tone to the Quran passages you quote, and which guidance conservatives often turn to before the teachings of Jesus. Yahweh told the exodus Hebrews to slaughter all the inhabitants of the towns they conquered, children and women included. I'm not questioning the horrors inflicted by extremists, and I am strongly against women having anything less than full equal rights, regardless of cultural norms. The issue here is not the RELIGION of Islam, anymore than it is the RELIGION of Judaeo-Christianity; it is the self-proclaimed adherents misinterpreting the tenets of the religion that is the problem. Conservatives fearful of their own loss of power embrace these religions then misinterpret their teaching to legitimize their own secular prejudices and perform atrocities in an attempt to reinforce their loss of power. The instigators are not Muslims but CONSERVATIVE Muslims seeking to empower their CONSERVATIVE value systems by the proverbial sword. This is merely a mirror of conservative Americans seeking to force their values on those of us who choose to think freely, by denigration and intimidation of their perceived enemies. The only reason far-right conservative Americans aren't committing similar atrocities is that the United States has a general prosperity and affluence that most citizens buy into, dissuading the majority from embracing radical causes. If the US were to go through a lengthy recession that diminished it's economic prowess I suspicion we would have many right-wing groups pursuing similar aims through similar means as the conservative Islamic fundamentalists.

But I am not writing this for you. I'm sure you'll always have an answer. It's easy to be an expert with a closed mind. I want to debate someone who is willing to THINK, not cherry-pick quotes out of context or merely provide links to 'facts' created by those with underlying motives. You'll never be that person. But the good thing is that I can tell, merely by reading your misbegotten 'logic' and false analogies (not to mention arrogance), that you will never have the power you want to change people's hearts on a large - or even minute - scale, and history will pass you by.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Ok. I see this tired old argument everyday. It's 2016 only 1 religion is doing this today and claiming righteousness from it.
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3 ups, 3y,
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'Shady'! Where are you coming from? I'm confused because sithwhoisnotarenegade is mucking up the picture. 'Tired argument' is his?
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3 ups, 3y,
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I just think the ideology between islam and Christianity is very different. I appreciate your righteousness on the matter and in a lot of ways you are right! I just think we have to open out eyes about this ideology disguised as a religion. No not all Moslems are bad, we know that. But we as a society need to continuously confront it. Islam is in definite need of reform. The fact that there are 50 million jihadists on this planet a is frightening thing to think about. Islam is a crude and barbaric ideology that has a reachfar greater then just isis and other terrorist organizations. There is a war on our police, by organization a like BLM which is a jihadist group founded by modlems, thst preach, death to ehites and cops. Next it will be death to chridtiand. Police which in the bible our beloved "peace keepers" need to be protected and loved. Yet we continue to be torn apart by a leftist divider in the white house, who will " stand by islam. " but thesr are discussions gor another day. Yes jesus did preach peace, but we also see in paul, thatJesus said, some will let hod, but Paul I choose for you to fight. I'm so many words....what's happening now is no different the islam in the past and their means of conquering nations. We can see all the proof. Look at the once great nation persia, now iran, Saudi arabia, egypt, full sharia. The ones in progress, india, indonesia, Malaysia. Then we have Europe and the USA. If we take time to look at the past, the answer is there. They will take until everything is gone. I'm rambling now and pry riddled with spelling errors, but if you take ANYthing from this it should be that we need to keep an eye on this matter and constantly confront islam and it's ideology.
2 ups, 3y
What I keep an eye on is conservatism. Sharia, etc. are not a problem because they are Islamic but because they are conservative. Sorry. If you thought I was coming from another direction but basically renegade_sith is talking bollocks. Islamic State is not a problem because of any theological issues - of which there are few - but because it represents a (violently) conservative way of thinking and life.

Yeah, your spelling is dodgy but I'll write that up to passion. But as a human being I expect a thought-out argument. Hopefully you will give me what renegade_sith doesn't.
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2 ups, 3y,
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I'm totally sympathetic to your Iranian-American friend, and understand the atrocities going on. Atrocities perpetrated by dint of a conservative culture; misinterpreting writings from 1400 years ago written in a conservative tribal culture. I'm not arguing Muhammed was a good guy, no one can truly know for certain as most religious texts are laid down years if not decades after they are supposedly spoken or the acts performed, I'm arguing solely from the modern day. The problem isn't some dude who has been dead for over a millenium, but those who run around demanding others abide by their beliefs in the name of ANY religion. As an American liberal I support women's rights in all their forms, as well as the rights of all free people. And those not truly free. I actually can agree with your assessment in your paragraph on the ten commandments and Jesus hanging out with women, but the 'OT' Hebrew law does discuss proper ways of selling one's daughter into slavery and the aforementioned slaughter of noncombatants, so there are obvious issues of contrast with God's supreme commands. Again, these are ancient Hebrew oral traditions put to parchment centuries after their creation. The simple fact is that a misogynistic culture is conservative by nature, even in the modern world, as when people defending the maltreatment of women are defending the conservative values they fear losing.

So I am ignorant and arrogant and you have no desire to debate a fool like me, huh? And yet you appear to be hovering over whatever device you correspond with to set me, and the world, straight. From your form here this 'kid' can determine two things: I'm doubtlessly older, and at the risk of sounding egotistical, more educated and open-minded than you. And two sure things I know through decades long experience: beware the committed true believer for down their path lies falsity and manipulation; and the surest sign of an intelligent person is someone who knows they DON'T know everything.

You, sir, are no 'renegade', but a common small-minded man. And you besmirch all good geeks with your chosen nom de imgflip. The clock is running, how long will you be in answering? And let's see if this time you can answer without playground insults. I'm not offended, I'm beyond that, it's just a challenge.
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3 ups, 3y,
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There is the problem with your side of the debate. You are doing exactly what islam preaches. Islam is a way to establish government. Why do you think all the elitist back it so much? Having an outlook like they are just like everyother religion in 2016 is a terrible and flawed mindset to have. I've read your comments and I've come to the conclusion that you will have to see to believe. Which I fear by then it will be to late. It's sad that some have gone so far left they are blinded by simple logic. I've had debated like this that just end up in a stalemate with one side taking the "moral high ground." The fact remains that islam practices the oppression of woman. These "happy muslim" woman are brought up and conditioned to believe that said abuse is condoned by Allah and do not see it as a problem. Sadley with Islam it's the ones who scream the loudest get their way and the rest follow suit. Much like the Nazis. I'm germany only 20 percent of the people were nazis, but the other 80 followed suit because they were brainwashed. If the nazis won those moderates would be dealing the benefits. Just like islam the quiet ones are in a win win. So just scrutinize islam and confront it, instead of just following orders by your political party. Which has betrayed you btw.
2 ups, 3y
I've read your comments and come to the conclusion you don't think openly much. Go read more intelligent stuff.
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3 ups, 3y
What's sad is that your ego is what's tearing this country apart. It doesn't bother me though. When I look at your attempts to ccritize then understand your overall messages as a leftist. You sit see bad for business. Your party betrayed you, but you don't want to admit defeat even though you are led by the two most despicable humans on the planet.
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3 ups, 3y
This is the state of your party today. Hypocrisy and deceit. #feelthebern takes on a new meaning doesn't it?
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1 up, 3y,
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Actually that refered to radicals who oppressed religion.
Used out of context way to much to be valid.
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1 up, 3y,
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wow,just wow.
i got it.you hate islam.
no need to rub that in ,my face.
i am a muslim and i'll never quit islam,so yeah.
deal with it.
now,im gonna reform my question.
was that ur real face?
u must awnser with yes or no
if you dont have something smart to say,dont reply to this comment.
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1 up, 3y
*face palm*
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