Many suffer from mental health issues and can never exist better than this on their own. Many are also veterans who served you.

Many suffer from mental health issues and can never exist better than this on their own. Many are also veterans who served you.  | BEFORE WE TAKE IN 10S OF THOUSANDS OF REFUGEES FROM ELSEWHERE MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ONES ALREADY HERE, WHO ARE BEING FAILED MISER | image tagged in memes,seriously,homeless,do they not count if they don't vote | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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20 ups, 3y,
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I don't think there is anything wrong with helping others BUT I think there are plenty of people right here in the USA that need help as well!
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12 ups, 3y
I agree, there is enough shit to straighten out here at home.
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4 ups, 3y
When I was in High School, I participated in a club for a year called "Club PB&J", where we would make Peanut Butter & Jelly Sandwiches every first Saturday of the month, and donate them to the Homeless population in Downtown.
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16 ups, 3y,
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AMEN!!!!
There are SOOO many here in America, born and raised...
So many that fought for our country, so many who have lost good paying jobs cause companies pay pennies on the dollar oversees for foreign workers...
We NEED AMERICA to become strong again by making AMERICANS who love this country strong again!
Once America is strong.. then we can help the world.
I feel bad about the refugees... but send them to other Arab/Muslim countries closer to their home, that share their same ideology... instead of bringing them here and having them demand we cater to them and adopt Sharia Law.... HECK NO!!!
You come to America... You learn English, you obey our laws... you become AMERICAN!
At home you can speak whatever language you want, teach your children about your holidays, their heritage, that is OK... but do not teach them to hate the very country that they live in!
Do not change America into whatever country you came from... if you want to do that... then stay where you were!
America... for AMERICANS... no matter what country your grandparents or parents or you come from... you come here, you become AMERICAN and love this country!

So sick of the Syrians in this town coming here, all living in brand new, nice looking apartment complexs that are fully furnished from IKEA and other name brand stores with brand new everything! Then they hang around there all day bullying everyone walking past and stealing my son's bike and beating him up for confronting them...
THEN... the police do absolutely NOTHING about it! Except scold my son!
Everything was caught on survelliance tape and now, it has vanished and I am told not to create an issue.... WHo was stealing??? They were caught red handed and beat a minor... 3 adult syrian males!
And islam is supposed to be a "religion of peace" and they supposedly don't steal... yeah right!
OK....
Didn't mean to go on about this....But I am SOOOO sick of them taking over my once peaceful town and acting like they are far superior to all of us and above the law.
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4 ups, 3y,
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That is about the point were you sue the police department and those 3 men. If you have a video the PD won't even go tp court, they'll settle.
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5 ups, 3y,
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We may do that...
His bike was chained up at the train station... video survelliance cameras are pointing all over the area... including where his bike was AND where they started beating him with sticks they were carrying...
When the police showed up, they guys acted indignant like it was my son's fault for locking up his bike there... then the police sided with the adults male thugs and told my son not to make a big deal out of this...
Well, he is still bruised and it cost $119 to fix the damages they created on his bike when they tried to take it apart to steal it! Cost another $65 in co-pay at the urgent care.
When I asked about getting the tapes, they said the survelliance cameras didnt tape any of it... "REALLY????? Why are they up there?"
Their answer... to deter thieves and would be assailants... WOW!
Guess the Syrian thugs got the memo that they can attack and do what they will there cause no one is watching!

It used to be homeless would hang out around there... this is what started my train of thought with the Syrians to begin with... but now, even they don't want to be there where the Syrians steal and beat them up.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Bring it to court. You'll get a quick settlement, trust me. The politicians in your city definitely won't want stories like that circling around. And I'm sure it was taped, unless they were dummy cameras. I would definitely advise you to get a lawyer, things like that should not go unpunished. How is your son doing, btw? Were they very bad injuries?
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2 ups, 3y,
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Thank you H2O for asking....
My son is getting better... he has bruising still.. but it is healing. We took pics of him in his bathing shorts to document most of the bruising... had the sticks been any thinner, I am sure it would have broken skin!
I think at this point he is more emotionally upset, and fearful of riding his bike or locking it up and leaving it somewhere for fear of an encore performance by these thugs...
He has gone out a few times since then to hang with friends... but lately has been picked up to go to their house instead of riding his bike or taking the train.
Sad :-(
Truly... this is what you would call terrorism, cause he IS terrified of them doing it again :-(
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3 ups, 3y,
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Sue for emotional distress, pain and suffering, and an assault charge will probably get them locked up. Since they are wards of the state, you'll definitely just get a settlement. You deserve it after all you guys have been through.
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2 ups, 3y
I am not the suing type...
What I do want is... IF they hate America and Americans so badly, or if they break our laws... send em back...
There are enough muslim countries that can easily afford to house them and certainly have the space... but they are not led by bleeding heart liberals who feel that they gotta save muslims and other non americans BEFORE doing a thing to help REAL Americans... Americans who were born here, who love our country and many who have unaddressed mental issues cause they served our Country well.
They are being tossed aside like garbage, while the American haters are given the red carpet, a free ride and kid glove treatment... break a law, attack an American? No worries.. we will look the other way cause we don't want to be labeled racist.
WHAT THE HECK???
Do you see WHY I am so upset?
Had it been a white college age kid stealing my son's bike, then beating him with a stick, he would have been arrested for assault! I am sure they would have found the video survelliance tapes too!

And with the IKEA thing... you know what? If they had been living in refugee camps... they would have been thrilled with an apartment furnished from Goodwill and thought that they won the lottery. I am OK with them having new mattresses... cause the thought of anyone, refugee or homeless or anyone sleeping on a used mattress is gross...
But NOT all new EVERYTHING!
And I think it is TOTALLY wrong to have them all living in one complex... unless it is the governments idea of keeping better tabs on them... and with the ornate fences all around the complex,, it would be easy enough for them to put into lock down mode if necessary...
But I don't think that all living in one huge complex is going to make them want to assimilate and become American... it is just going to become a "Little Syria" and nothing else.
When we, as neighbors, try to reach out and talk to them or smile (univeral language) they scowl at us and have literally ran a few off their complex!
So yeah... I have a problem with the way this refugee issue is being handled... but I am NOT racist... I would be totally open to and happy with making friends with the Syrian women if they were open to it... but they are not,,, at all.
I am sure I could learn a lot from them, and they could learn a lot from me...but it will take a miracle and nothing short of a miracle to have it happen under current conditions here and how the refugee situation is being handled.
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3 ups, 3y
I couldn't agree more with everything you said.

These Islam apologists just don't understand the idealogy of Islam and how dangerous it is. The Quran instructs them to deceive non-believers. The very same Muslim Imam who spoke at an Orlando mosque before the attack saying that "gays should be killed out of compassion", pretended to "condemn" the attack afterwards! It's what known as "taqiyya", lying to further Islam.

It's exactly why so many people are fooled into thinking Islam is a religion of peace. The FOUNDER of Islam, the fake prophet, was a war mongerer, rapist and pedophile. He abused women, preached that women are inferior and preached violence, all while claiming this is what the "god" allah wanted. He was a master manipulator who tried to justify his savage behavior by claiming it was approved by allah. I don't understand how anyone could think a person like Muhammed could create a peaceful religion!
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3 ups, 3y
Wow, just wow.
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2 ups, 3y
I mean really. If you can't live in a teepee go back where you came from.
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1 up, 3y,
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There is A LOT of stereotyping going on in this comment. I mean really, does every syrian live in a new apartment furnished with ikea in the US? I know several muslims who fled war and violence, came to america (through legal channels mind you) took the oath, learned english and most certainly do NOT want to impose sharia law. Most of this is just fear mongering from people who are afraid. Dont be afraid. Sure there are bad people, and that sucks about your son's bike, but I just read in the news about a syrian refugee who found $50,000 in an apartment he was renting and turned it into the police instead of keeping it. Its not fair to generalize people, and I am sure there are white, black, latino and asian people who "hang around all day bullying everyone walking past and stealing things and beating people up for confronting them...".
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2 ups, 3y,
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That is really cool about the guy that turned in the money...
And yes.. the entire brand new complex is just for the Syrians and Yes, there is a group taking them to IKEA to buy them brand new everything... all their rent is paid by government.. not sure about the IKEA trips.. I have seen them in person there with guys encouraging them to get things that even the refugees are not wanting.. heard one guy tell a man "Hey, it's free money... might as well get it, and you can sell it and make some money on the side"
My daughter and her fiance witnessed the guys face at that comment and he looked at the white guy with an odd "What the Heck" look.
The day we were there, there were 7 families with the "personal shoppers", all men... and only the males were with the personal shoppers.. the women and kids held back trying to not be noticed.

Yes,,, you are right, they are not all thugs... but ALL the ones I have personally dealt with do NOT want to be American, they refuse to learn the language and are VERY arrogant and act superior to everyone who is not in their niche.
I have tried to be friendly, maybe it is their culture... but they refuse to associate with anyone American, not sure if out of fear or what... but the teens and young adults do hang around all day, looking for trouble. I have never witnessed this before now... most Asians I know are the hardest working people I know (My best friend is Filipino and she IS the hardest working person I know.. always has been an A student and now a successful business woman).
Most of the blacks and hispanics I grew up with now are successful in their lives and I have never witnessed thugs like these kids now.. and I grew up in Southern California!
I am not racist.. just pointing out actual facts... this is NOT cool!
If they want to become Americans and love America... I welcome ALL to America...
But... from ALL that I have witnessed... they do NOT want to be Americans... and they spout HATE at America... it is a powderkeg waiting to explode over there...
The police know it.. that is why they tell us to let it go...
To tolerate the ill behavior... to allow them to continue their brazen attacks on my neighbors and our kids.
Someone just tonight said that all the patriotic decorations for a block or so if the complex are gone... including a house, that every year has a sea of American flags...
I have not been by to see it for myself... but I do know his flags were out in mass the other day...
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3 ups, 3y,
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12 ups, 3y,
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15 ups, 3y,
3 replies
I submitted this a few months back but it came out NSFW so it didn't get any traction. However it totally sums up my feelings on the matter.
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11 ups, 3y,
2 replies
We can't even help the ones that need it at home, so I never understood how we can bring more in and set them up better then the ones born and raised here? If we were able to help ourselves and have the means to help others after I'd say sure thing! That's my thoughts
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10 ups, 3y,
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I actually had someone tell me we should do away with the programs that we do have here for legals, so we can afford to take in more. He also had no suggestions for our 19 trillion dollar debt. I don't know if people call what they are doing "thinking" or what, but whatever it is they are doing it needs to stop.
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6 ups, 3y
That's all I can say... wow
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2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
That is crazy!!
And that is the exact thinking that is driving me crazy with what's going on here where I live!
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3 ups, 3y
It was actually what got me to make this meme, it started out just addressing that conversation, but then it kind of evolved :)
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5 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Let's be for real, many of us don't even want to help the ones here at home.
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5 ups, 3y
Sad but true. But no reason to spend elsewhere!
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4 ups, 3y
To be sure there are a few that do not, but that's a VERY few. However the left has always used the argument that the right doesn't care EVERY time they disagree on the approach.
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8 ups, 3y,
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Things seemed to loosen up for a while, but I'm noticing what seems like censorship lately whereby memes are either not featuring, or more likely, templates that routinely sail through in 1 hour are purposely being held back and taking 2-3 hours...
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9 ups, 3y
My thoughts are that there are a few mods that review them all, and some just get the job done faster than others it seems. Its the only rhyme or reason I can find for it.
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7 ups, 3y,
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My parents neighbour's wife is from Jordan, they were out there last year, over 800,000 refugees living there in tent cities spanning miles, wtf is the problem? It f**king frustrates me nothing is being done to reverse the situation. Somebody shoot someone!
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10 ups, 3y
One would think with that many people, even with pitchforks they could over run 30,000 isis fighters, especially with a little help from us, nato, whatever.
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8 ups, 3y,
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7 ups, 3y
That's the truth brother! No FBI vetting needed!!!
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7 ups, 3y,
2 replies
I'm all for helping others, but I think we need to help people here at home first.

Now, I'm sure many a liberal will complain about that, or they will complain about "we need more welfare". I just wonder how many of these bleeding heart liberals are spending 12+ hours a week volunteering their time in the community, or giving 10% of their paycheck every week to charity.

If you sacrifice your time and money to help others, then you have the right to complain about the government not helping people enough. But if not, then get the f**k off my case
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5 ups, 3y,
1 reply
I don't question their motives or their contribution, but their approach. I do though actually think the relocating 100,000s of thousands of people is taking the easy way out for them.
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6 ups, 3y,
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Tbh I think those people should start helping themselves. 800,000 people, you out number ISIS more than 20:1. And why are we bringing healthy young men here? They should help fight, and we should be bringing mainly elderly adults and young children here.
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5 ups, 3y
That's where the problem lies, when you start wholesale relocating refugees where do you stop?
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2 ups, 3y
Well said! but liberal magic? It's like magnets, how do they work?
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7 ups, 3y,
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Unfortunately, Barack Obama and the rest of his ilk don't care about real Americans. It's so evident that you really can't ignore the fact unless you're so far up his ass.

He hates what America stands for and he treats veterans who fought for our way of life, like crap while taking in people from other countries who are mixed with ISIS members. ISIS even said they would mix in with he refugees. It isn't like they're being silent about it.
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6 ups, 3y,
1 reply
There is no question in my mind that he sees himself and Americans as world citizens first. Their vision is a world where no one nation is any stronger, richer or better at anything than any other nation.
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4 ups, 3y,
1 reply
He disrespects Christians and the Bible a lot, while treating Islam like it's best thing ever. Sickening.
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5 ups, 3y,
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I won't take it so far as to say he IS a Muslim, although he may be one at heart, but it is clear his upbringing in that environment has had a dramatic impact on his approach to anything remotely related to it.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Actually... everything he says and does tells me he really is, in his heart a muslim...
He has made SOOO many references, done SO many things that a normal American would NEVER think to say or do... I think I will make a meme with ALL his blunders... No.. that would be TOO long... I will make one with his top 10 classic "I'm a Muslim" blunders... I am about to leave for vacation, so I won't be able to have access to a computer while I am travelling, but, as soon as I get there, next Wednesday... I will be able to make it....
Watch for it!
It will blow you away and prove that he is deep down, a muslim... his father was, his schooling in Indonesia was Muslim, he practiced it then, and in his heart... that is who HE identifies with... not a Christian, not even a true American.
I think he studied and taught the Constitution so that he could figure out "HOW" to destroy it.. and America.
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4 ups, 3y
I can only take him at his word for that, although after he leaves office those closest may disclose something different. As I said earlier I have not doubt he is heavily sympathetic. Maybe I should have added that the degree of which not only clouds his judgement but often obstructs it entirely.
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4 ups, 3y
Here's a nice compilation of Obama's pro-Islam quotes:

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/40-mind-blowing-quotes-barack-hussein-obama-islam-christianity/

And then a slip up here...forgets he's supposed to say Christian

https://youtu.be/bMUgNg7aD8M

Can't wait to get a true American like Trump back in the White House!
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6 ups, 3y
Exactly, this is all part of the Islamic way of conquering. Taqiyya or deception, was preached by Muhammed. It states to lie and deceive all non-believers to further Islam. A lot of these countries Islamic countries in the middle east have only become such in the past 50-75 years.
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2 ups, 3y,
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The hilarious thing about what you said is that it is actually Congress REPUBLICANS who don't seem to care about veterans. Obama looks like he doesn't care, but only because he hasn't had a chance to sign any new measures because McConnell shoits everything down.
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4 ups, 3y,
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You're funny.
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1 up, 3y,
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My state's Senator proposed a bill to impose a tax to improve veterans programs. It was a small one, but it would add up to several hundreds of millions of dollars for vet benefits programs. McConnell got to the floor and preached about how this was an example of Obama using his presidential powers abusively, even though he had nothing to do with the bill. But go ahead. Prove to me that you are a Conservative by ignoring the facts and jumping to illogical conclusions.
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4 ups, 3y,
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I'm a constitutional conservative on just about every issue you can think about.

I know for a fact Barack Obama hasn't done diddly-squat, or tried to do diddly- squat for veterans. I don't care what others have done or not done. I'm talking about Barack Obama.
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3 ups, 3y
Oh sure Obama has done things for the Vets...
Not good things... but he has done things... Like shut them out of THEIR war memorial...
Oh he makes me SICK!
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2 ups, 3y,
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The job of the legislature is to create laws for political entities which the President will then sign into law. But he can't actually sign anything into law if no bills concerning the issue get through to him. And I know you're Conservative. Once again, your ignorance of facts is very telling.
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5 ups, 3y,
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The president does a lot of things that he isn't legally able to do. Obama care is just one on a long list of illegal actions he has forced on us. So don't give me this crap about him not being able to do anything about our veterans. If he really wanted to help, he would do it, regardless.
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2 ups, 3y,
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Sorry, but what does Obamacare have to do with what we were talking about?
And if he did do something like pass an Executive Order to help veteran, would you Conservatives take it as another assault on your rights and hate it? Which side of you would prevail: The side of you that hates Obama, or the side of you that wants to help veterans?
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4 ups, 3y,
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It's up to the federal government to secure and protect our borders from enemies both foreign and domestic and to uphold the constitution. Healthcare for the citizens is not the federal government's job and neither is gay rights or bathroom rights. These are all state government issues. So what Obama has done is illegal.

As for your question about taking care of veterans, I would praise that, since veterans are actually federal government's responsibility. Also, as good citizens, it is up to us as well, to help veterens in need.
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2 ups, 3y
Got it.
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4 ups, 3y,
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What about his executive order granting amnesty for millions of illegals. He completely bypassed the legislature on that one. So why didn't he do anything like that for vets I wonder? Hm. And what about when the democrats controlled the senate and congress?
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1 up, 3y
Whenever he uses an executive order, people flip out, like you just pointed out. If he uses an executive order and bypasses the legislature, who says the people won't get mad at THAT, even if it is for a good cause?
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3 ups, 3y
Yea now go away liberal
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4 ups, 3y,
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New taxes, the answer to allllll of life's problems.
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2 ups, 3y,
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Hey, you said it yourself. "We must help veterans". If you have any better ideas, then call your Senator.
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3 ups, 3y,
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The voucher system for vets already has and is being discussed, however some members (probably on both sides) don't want to get out of the hospital business (VA). Maybe a new tax is needed, but we should be able to look at other options before we add taxes that will never go away and probably get used to pay for some other unintended use once in place. As for you "obstructionist Congress comment made elsewhere, Harry Reed set a high bar. It is also intellectually dishonest to ignore the fact that BOTH sides attach poison pills to bills solely with the intent of making the other side look bad for voting for or against that bill. This is an issue the line item veto would resolve and assure that a bill passed or failed on it's own merit.
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2 ups, 3y,
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That's why I said "Congress" and not a specific party.
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3 ups, 3y
Okay, I'll go with that, but that's where I think sometimes you get misunderstood, and I know have made the same assumption on comments I've seen you make before. While "Congress" seems generic, it generally associated with the current majority. Maybe that's just me. My blood pressure goes up when I see one party getting singled out when both play the games that only they can win and the public is always the loser.
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7 ups, 3y,
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We have the same issues here.
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8 ups, 3y
Its just craziness!!!
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6 ups, 3y,
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3 ups, 3y,
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I see so much of it daily, probably more than many because I live so close to a freeway on/off ramp.
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2 ups, 3y,
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2015/05/06/meet-the-outsider-who-accidentally-solved-chronic-homelessness/
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3 ups, 3y
Interesting article. I'm looking forward to reading more about it. I don't see however a major impact in Phoenix.
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5 ups, 3y,
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I have what most would consider "good" health insurance. Very little is covered when it comes to mental illness... 30 K a year to get a full bill for Anxiety disorders... No wonder I'm going crazy ????
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10 ups, 3y,
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Mental health has been a huge problem for the last half century and no administration has done anything to address it.
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5 ups, 3y,
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That's because it's a drain on the economy and a lot of the mentally ill have no family or families that have given up on them. The system is antiquated and moves like molasses. If it wasn't for non-profits, they'd probably all be in jail.
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4 ups, 3y
Hey, but at least we can set up a thriving bureaucracy to fail at the task.
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7 ups, 3y
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4 ups, 3y,
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Hillary Corrupton plans on bring tens of thousands, just like you said. A high % of Syrians support Isis and sharia. It's funny how the same countries (Oman, Saudi, Dubai, etc) that donated tens of millions thru her money laundering operation called the Clinton foundation won't accept any Syrians.
Their reason: "the risk of terrorism is too great"
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4 ups, 3y
There's no connection is there... lol
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6 ups, 3y
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4 ups, 3y,
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That is so right on.
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4 ups, 3y
Thanks, you know we could stand to see a little more of you around here :)
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6 ups, 3y,
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Kinda funny, because Congress says the exact same thing, right before cutting veteran benefits.
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3 ups, 3y,
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More funding would be great, but the biggest issue is regulation and management. The VA is a black hole.
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3 ups, 3y,
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So many govt depts are like this. Just an old broken machine that people either dont want to fix or aren't allowed to because of corporate control.
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3 ups, 3y
I'm not sure how much of it is corporate control as opposed to chickenshit lawyer control. Everything seems to come down to one question anymore, "can we get sued over this?"
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2 ups, 3y,
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Couldn't agree more! We have more and more homeless people in the UK every day but nothing is being done for them so I feel your frustration with what's happening in the US. I want the world to be happy but you fix your home first before you invite the neighbours round right? (??`) Stupid governments!
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5 ups, 3y,
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what gets me is how the world governments are willing to allow a force of roughly 35,000 force the relocation of hundreds of thousands, most of whom would rather stay in their home lands.
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2 ups, 3y
Absolutely! I just don't understand why they do this... Is it for money? Power? It makes no sense for them to do this (´?_?`)
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3 ups, 3y,
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Im truly torn on this one.
Yes I think we should do much better to help homelessness where we can (though a percentage are chronic, meaning they prefer it that way).
Yes I think that we should help stabilize the middle east, so there wont be refugees.
But also, yes our country was founded and built up refugees. From the pilgrims, to the irish to the current flood of immigrants who work in the fields doing manual backbreaking labor, our founding fathers would never prevent an entire race of people from coming to America. The statue of Liberty says "Give me your tired, your weak, your hungry" there is no clause as to your race or religion.

Also, I think more should go to Europe. What the British people dont understand, is that the eurpean population is shrinking according to censuses, and it needs an influx of new citizens to become tax payers and customers to boost their economies.
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4 ups, 3y,
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There are some major differences between refugees who have come before. The pilgrims, the Irish, the Italians for the most part, wanted to come here and live the American dream, not change it into a version of the situation they left behind. There was not a rampant hate America sentiment rampant among those immigrants. We also didn't have to worry about who the bomb makers were in the group because we had previous knowledge bad people were infiltrating those groups. It's political laziness to accept so many refugees rather than to win back their homes, then label anyone who disagrees is a xenophobe. I appreciate that you're torn, it shows that you are paying close attention to BOTH SIDES of the issue, something too few do.
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1 up, 3y,
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If you read up on the real "gangs of new york", you would be surprised. Many Irish, Italians and Chinese came to America and set up native areas where they could change it to a version of their former homeland, speak in their language etc... The remants of those days are Chinatown, Korean Town, Little Italy, etc... In New York and San Francisco, they sometimes became violent and often clashed with "natives" who thought the same things you are worried about today. Its a shame we forget history too quickly.
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3 ups, 3y
There were isolated cultural centers that clung to their homelands no doubt... but the threat still remains VASTLY different. There was not the "hate America" indoctrination that goes on in the middle east and has for decades along with the know threats of "we are coming for you and we will infiltrate refugees to do it". We have to acknowledge the threat and take precautions. Why do we insist on bringing people here who really were it not for Isis, would rather not come here?
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4 ups, 3y,
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"our founding fathers would never prevent an entire race of people from coming to America."

I'm assuming you're referring to Trump's ban of Muslims? Muslims aren't a race bro.

"The statue of Liberty says "Give me your tired, your weak, your hungry" there is no clause as to your race or religion."

That's your opinion, not a fact. The president can choose who can or can't enter America.
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1 up, 3y,
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I wasnt reffering to Trump, though that fits the bill. I was reffering to some people's sentiment. Also I did not say Muslims were a race, if you reread it, you can see it says there is no clause as to your race OR religion. Muslims are part of a religion, last time I checked ;)
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3 ups, 3y,
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"our founding fathers would never prevent an entire race of people from coming to America."

This your comment I was referring to when I said Muslims aren't a race.

"The statue of Liberty says "Give me your tired, your weak, your hungry" there is no clause as to your race or religion."

It doesn't say anything about religion, which is why I said it's just your opinion.

Islam is actually a cult.
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1 up, 3y,
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and again, I must say one more time, in that sentence I was not reffering to Muslims. Can you please show me where I said Muslims in that comment? Sorry its not there, not anywhere in that WHOLE comment.

No you are right, just because it says "Give me your tired, your weak, your hungry" also doesnt specifically say humans either, so me saying that it was directed towards humans would be my opinion too? LOL
If you are going to make dumb comments like that or that Islam is a not a religion, then as I have suspected, you are not smart enough for me to engage with on a level deeper than a pinky toe.
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3 ups, 3y,
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Lol, you are truly an ignorant tool.

ONCE AGAIN, I will quote you;

"Yes I think that we should help stabilize the middle east, so there wont be refugees."

Here you are referring to refugees from the middle east, from multiple countries, meaning they are different races.

You then said:

"our founding fathers would never prevent an entire race of people from coming to America."

What do all these refugees have in common? A race? No. A religion? Yes. I could only infer from your statement that like most ignorant liberals, you think Muslims are a race, and tried to justify them being allowed here by making a strawman argument to your advantage about the founding fathers.

Keeping up so far? Your brain must be hurting. Feel free to take a break if you need to.

I'm well aware that Islam meets the criteria and textbook definition of a religion. Muhammed built Islam upon the foundation of Judeo-Christian beliefs and mixed his own sicks beliefs in. He manipulated people into following his teachings by claiming that he was a prophet of the "god" allah. This happened 600 years AFTER Jesus. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was a flim-flam man, a con-artist.

Now, while Islam does technically meet the criteria of a religion, it is MY opinion that is a cult.

cult
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a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

See? By the definition of cult, it could be interpreted as such also. Nice try bud.

Feel free to keep defending an idealogy which abuses and tortures women and violates human rights, I'll keep raising awareness against Islam and fighting FOR human rights.
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1 up, 3y,
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ugh, jeeze I didnt realize that you are this far gone. I see why so many people have a problem with you. Dude its very simple, I was being generic. I could fit race, religion, hair color, language spoken etc... into that sentence, it wasnt directed at Muslims. Sorry you were an idiot and "inferred that" on your own. Keeping up so far? Ok so you beliwve its a cult, so could Christianity under that same definition. The fact that you are so SMALL MINDED that you think that
A) Christianity has never abused or tortured woman and violated human rights is downright sad.
or B) that you think a religion that has such a huge and diverse population, culture and environment all around the world and the leading religion in countries from the middle east to the south pacific can fit into your neat and tiny box just goes to show how tiny your comprehension really is.
As a Christian, who grew up in a Christian school, I know how Christianity can be. We murdered woman and children, we burned woman on stakes because we thought they were witches (like f**king seriously), black families were **ped and murdered here in the US in Jesus's name. Did you know in England in the 18th century that the Cathloic Church said it was ok to marry girls as young as 10 years old? Or that it gave its blessing in Jesus's name that the local Lord could take and **pe the wife on the eve of her wedding, that it was the will of God as part of her matronony to be **ped by some guy because the Church said it was his birth right. I know what my religion has done and I am not going to sit here and throw stones at other's religions like everyone is exactly the same. You are either too stupid or too ignorant if you think you are fighting for human rights because you are fighting Islam, yet you claim to be a Christian (which christians are NOW yes NOW still employing medieval rituals in countries in Africa). Grow up and learn that I as a Christian should not be labeled the same as a KKK leader who also claims to be Christian and carrying out Gods work, neither should the 1.6 billion Muslims that share this world with us. But thats probably too much for you to comprehend at this point.
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2 ups, 3y
Typical deflecting tactics *sigh*

A couple of trolls have a problem with me, that's it.

"Dude its very simple, I was being generic. I could fit race, religion, hair color, language spoken etc... into that sentence, it wasnt directed at Muslims. Sorry you were an idiot and "inferred that" on your own. Keeping up so far? Ok so you beliwve its a cult, so could Christianity under that same definition. The fact that you are so SMALL MINDED that you think that
A) Christianity has never abused or tortured woman and violated human rights is downright sad.
or B) that you think a religion that has such a huge and diverse population, culture and environment all around the world and the leading religion in countries from the middle east to the south pacific can fit into your neat and tiny box just goes to show how tiny your comprehension really is."

Where did I EVER state that Christians have never been wrong? All you Islam apologists you can do is attack Christianity because there's nothing to defend about Islam.

Women are abused under Islam BECAUSE THE QURAN SAYS THAT'S HOW THEY SHOULD BE TREATED. The "Christians" who have done things like you referenced, did that stuff on THEIR own. A lot of Christians have MISINTERPRETED the Bible to fit their own sick beliefs. Hitler was a Christian, where does the Bible say to kill all the Jews?

If everyone followed the teachings of Muhammed BY THE BOOK, there would be world-wide chaos. If everyone followed Jesus BY THE BOOK, we would have peace and equality.

"You are either too stupid or too ignorant if you think you are fighting for human rights because you are fighting Islam, yet you claim to be a Christian (which christians are NOW yes NOW still employing medieval rituals in countries in Africa). Grow up and learn that I as a Christian should not be labeled the same as a KKK leader who also claims to be Christian and carrying out Gods work, neither should the 1.6 billion Muslims that share this world with us. But thats probably too much for you to comprehend at this point."

I've never claimed to be a Christian, why did you infer that? Is your reading comprehension THAT low? Lol, I'm technically an athiest, but I do believe in spirtuality. I can defend Christianty from an unbiased standpoint, because the teachings of Jesus are worth defending. Look, I'd be the first to help a peaceful Muslim getting beat up if I saw that. I'm against the idealogy.
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2 ups, 3y
Continued:

Christianity had evolved, while most Islam hasn't. A couple of barbaric countries don't represent Christianity. They were probably taught Christianity by racist white men trying to control them.

Here's a recent beating of a woman in Indonesia, a peaceful country, but one province has accepted sharia and look what happens:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/crowd-cheers-woman-brutally-caned-7087489

Most Muslims are BORN into Islam, that's why they follow it. Don't act like everyone CHOSE to join Islam. I fight fir the rights of MUSLIM women dude...don't act like you know what I'm all about. One of my good friends is an Iranian-American woman who escaped from Islam, and is now a human rights activist who speaks out against Islam. She was sold to a husband at 9 years old, **ped and beaten and barely escaped from Islam with her life.

I get most of my information about Islam from here. If you want to learn the truth about Islam, then look her up on FB or youtube. Her name is Aynaz Anni Cyrus. I am trying to help her shed light on the atrocities of Islam.
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0 ups, 3y,
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"Lol I cant believe you actually reported me, what a whiny cry baby. Sorry I hurt your feelings LOL. Guess I have to wait a whole 24 hours before I can meme again lol. What a baby."

I never reported you. Why would my feelings be hurt when I won the argument? Lol
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0 ups, 3y,
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LOL not even man enough to accept it when called out huh? If I could meme right now, I would put Fry saying Hmmm...
1) Threatens to "flag" me.
2) Has reported others.
3) Gets a message "renegade_sith has notified us that you were not playing nice in the comments section, etc..."
but yeah it wasnt you. You make me laugh so much you know that? Well I dont want to hurt your fragile feelings again, so I will let you go to your safe space and get your butthurt cream applied. I wont respond to anymore of your posts, memes or comments ok? Bye.
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0 ups, 3y
LOL, I don't go to safe spaces. I'm not a liberal.

I threatened to "flag" you? Lol right, just like I "claimed I was a Christian". Lmao
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2 ups, 3y,
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Brussels did psyche testing on refugees and found overwhelming-amount of refugees that cannot be taught to learn anything besides rudimentary skills. Like sweeping floors. Currently the cost in trying to educate most of them is 20x higher than other immigrants. Due in large part to the custom of inbreeding most prevalent in this religious group. Estimates for example, put Pakistan at 75% or more marry someone else in the "family" which also results in high incidences of sociopathy. Probably why they're so willing to commit savage acts?
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0 ups, 3y,
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Can you please cite this source?
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1 up, 3y
Might have been the "front page"? There is so many studies if you do a search on "education in Europe versus cost, immigrants" etc I.E. 80% collect benefits in Europe, Norway loses 78,000 euros per immigrant.
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