Curious to see by how much he actually won in 2020 and 24. Future Dems are gonna have to win on merit alone

Hey, can you point to the part of the Constitution or US Code that says the President can order a census of only US Citizens?

The good old "do you know law" response - I bet you use that one all the time. Should be easy enough to decide for a judge (if that's even needed with this one), Being illegally in any country in the world means you've surrendered your right to be in the country, and corporations have always taken advantage of that fact and made ppl basically slaves.
Being catered to in any way becomes a charity rather than a right - that's why it's easy to draw back all the mad policies Biden added to flood the country

So... you feel that Presidents can do whatever they want whenever they want?

And, you say "easy enough to decide for a judge" does that mean you'll easily accept when a judge rules against Trump? OR, will you be like so many of his supporters, immediately claim it was a partisan activist judge who is part of the deep state out to get Trump?

'Cause I kinda feel like it would be the 2nd one.

Any reasonable person would understand that a Census is intended to count only citizens. But if liberals were reasonable, they wouldn't be liberals.

We can look to all that the writers of the Constitution and its Amendments had to say about what they meant. It's there, for instance, that we find that the 14th Amendment was never intended to include illegal aliens running over the border to pop new American citizens out.

The Democrat Party is literally Public Enemy #1, and only evil, despicable people are a part of it.

I'm gonna lead with, what you have said here is UnAmerican, Unconstitutional, and against everything this country has said it stands for.

You should go read the Constitution. That way you can learn it specifically says persons and not citizens. Then you should go on to read that it also specifically says All Persons Born.

Not some persons born. Not only persons we approve of. It explicitly says All Persons Born.

But it does carve out one specific group- those subject to the Jurisdiction of the United States.

What does that mean? It means that anyone born here, who can be held accountable by the laws of this land, is automatically a citizen.

So, for someone to be an illegal alien- meaning they are subject to our laws of immigration- if they have a kid here, that kid is automatically a citizen.

But there is one group of people who if they have children here, those children are not citizens. And that's diplomats from other countries. If both their parents are not citizens, and the kid is born here, that kid is not a citizen. It's that diplomatic immunity thing that comes up in cheese crime movies.

Claiming that the democratic party is a public enemy and evil is UnAmerican.

And I'm gonna lead with, I ain't spending the time to read your left wing nonsense. As a leftist and Democrat, you have nothing of value to say. And yes, I can assert this without reading what you said.

When you start on such a flawed and faulty foundation, EVERYTHING you say is off kilter, and therefore wrong and useless to normal life.

The best thing America could do is to totally neuter the Democrat Party. Nothing is more un-American, anti-Constitutional, and just plain evil as the Democrat Party.

What you have said is unAmerican and against the actual words in the constitution.

If you don't love America, you need to leave. No one is stopping you.

The Constitution does not cover illegals...

Yeah, it does. It literally says persons and not citizens.

The good ol', "If you repeat a lie often enough . . . "

How would you know? If you think the census only counts citizens, you're wrong. It's quite literally says enumerated persons. the law even covers citizens of other countries who live here. They're counted.

It's persons. Not citizens. Despite what you think.

When the original Census was taken, why did they not count all Indians/Native Americans?

If, as you suppose, the intent was to count "persons", why would they leave some "persons" out?

Answer: Because some of them chose to not be American citizens.

Illegals are not American citizens.

If nothing else, the ignorance of liberals on Original Intent means it just makes sense to ramp up deportations.

No, answer: because they were not considered general population of the United States as they lived outside of the country or on reservations (which are, technically, outside the country). It wasn't until the late 1800s that the reservation populations were counted.

And non-citizens are counted. If they live here on a regular basis, they are counted. Even citizens of other countries. They are counted.

If you stopped listening to OAN or Newsmax or whomever is lying to you, and look up actual facts; you'd know all this stuff.

Incorrect.

It was because they weren't paying taxes, albeit for that exact reason.

Illegal aliens cannot work in America, therefore they cannot pay taxes.

Buh-bye.

They can't pay taxes? While you're headed out for your evening walk with that 'buh-bye" you better swing by the IRS and tell them that they don't collect taxes from undocumented immigrants.

Because according to the IRS, they do.

Here's a whole report you can read about it: https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

Man, with this and what you've gotten wrong about the census and citizenship in the Constitution, you've got a lot of reading to do.

Nope... not people who broke the law to come here... it does not

It literally does. "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States." If they are subject to our immigration laws, they are within the Jurisdiction of the United States, if their children are born here, those children are citizens.

Nope it doesn't

Yes, it does. You living in your willful fantasy realm doesn't change what happens in the factual world.

Sorry, they broke the law coming here... PERIOD

Yes. We both agree they violated the immigration laws. If they are able to be held accountable for breaking the law- they are subject to the jurisdiction of the united states.

And the 14th Amendment is very clear; if they are subject to the jurisdiction of the united states (and they are) and they have children here, those children are citizens.

It's not complicated and stated in plain language.

Nah... just deport them

You might wanna go re-read that section to see who has the authority to start a census.