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Unfortunately, that's more than half of the people in the country.

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Tragic though that scenario is can you envisage how the rest of the world views it? When President Obama was elected the civilised world rejoiced. 1st he is an educated man with a developed world view. 2nd he is black. For a brief moment in time it appeared that the American electorate had grown up and embraced reality. As soon as his presidency commenced the bigots crawled out of the woodwork. I sympathise with your dilemma.

Education? Please show me his college transcripts.

"Everyone that opposes Obama is a bigot", this is grown up thinking?

That was neither what I wrote nor was it what I implied. Irrespective of personal politics or his ability as President, when he was elected it demonstrated that a candidate could win on merit. Too often America has shown to the world a mistrust of educated, developed political philosophy and out and out racism. Opposing Obama does not make you a bigot but supporting some of the current crop certainly makes you look like one.

Obama wasn't elected on merit. He had no merit to get elected on. He was elected on emotion.

Oh yes, what you wrote DOES most certainly imply that. That argument has been
over-used in attempts to shut down and send anyone who disagreed with him
running tails tucked from as early as his primaries. Even as you say you aren't
accusing detractors of racism you can't help yourself from saying it again. I would
suggest that you hunt for racism and look for that to be the issue first.
Your top 3 reasons why a world
would rejoice over this man included "he is black". I don't vote for white, black,
brown red, yellow, woman, man or sexual preference, its about ideas. Your statement
(Irrespective of personal politics or his ability as President, when he was elected
it demonstrated that a candidate could win on merit.) leaves nothing left but his
education and color as merit, when taken in context to your previous paragraph. As
for the "world rejoicing", Putin partied all the way to Ukraine.

That's right! Go, pal!

Hey buddy, LTNS! :)

Hi John, sorry about the delayed reply but I did want to consider this carefully. Firstly it is not for you to tell me what I implied, the word you should have used is infer. I imply - you infer. Read my comment carefully again and hopefully you will understand that I neither state nor imply that opposing your existing President makes you either a racist or a bigot. I do not know whether President Obama is good or bad at his job, again that is a choice for the electorate. Secondly the whole point of my original comment was a compliment to that same electorate. I hate to be obvious but the civil rights act in the US has only just passed its 50th anniversary and if it were the case that President Obama had failed to graduate high school he is patently and obviously intellectually streets ahead of some the current crop of presidential candidates.

I agree completely it should never be a disqualifier, however our left wing opposition in this country manages to do it all the time and get away with it. Whenever a black conservative makes gains in the political field, they refer to them as "Uncle Tom, their way of saying "uppity ni**er". It is how they manage to keep the race divide alive in this country. It is why there is a totally separate subculture in this country that can barely speak or function because they are taught it is not cool to speak clearly or be a part of mainstream society. It is frustrating as someone who WOULD like to see things equal, to see this divide fostered in ignorance. I could go on for an hours on this topic but it is time for bed and I am positive I have left food for thought if not comment. :)

"if it were the case that President Obama had failed to graduate high school he is patently and obviously intellectually streets ahead of some the current crop of presidential candidates." Overstatements like this show that I am not dealing with a someone interested in rational discussion.

Of course I'm interested in a rational discussion which is why I'm being patient and persevering with your obvious lack of ability to comprehend simple grammatical constructions. It is not an overstatement it is hyperbole, an obvious exaggeration for comedic effect. Do not confuse intellect with education, you can have one without the other but it must be a difficult to understand that concept if you possess neither.

You really aren't you're looking for opportunities to flex your intellectual muscle, and make others feel they have no business being in a discussion with you. Which, is okay with me.

I'm not looking to belittle anyone. You started this exchange by failing to understand my comment and then accusing me of waving the " anybody who doesn't support Obama must be a racist" flag. I left school at 16 with no formal qualifications and learned my debating skills the hard way, you try walking into a bar in Liverpool and making a contentious political statement. You either flex your intellectual muscle or somebody will flex it for you.

lol, I have to admit that would be the hard way!!! The "formal" education is not so much the big deal. You are obviously an intelligent man above the average, and possibly it is the Brit "style(for lack of a better word) " of debate that is creating the disconnect. I do still stand by my original statement that the way your Obama statements were made left nothing but race and education as his only qualifications. Those qualifications are just not enough for the office, as we have spent 7 years learning. Electing a qualified black man instead of just "the first black man" would have served racial harmony better. I don't think much of the man, and as he lead off his presidency by saying "elections have consequences", we unfortunately have had to live with them.

Thank you for sticking with the discourse. There is certainly a difference in style between our cultures, George Bernard Shaw summed it up perfectly "two nations divided by a common language". You are correct that race and education should not be the only qualification for office but my whole point was that, as so often in the history of all nations, it should not disqualify you either. I do sympathise with your sense of disappointment over the developed world's lack of economic growth and political stability over the last 8 years, we are all in the same boat. It will be interesting to see how history views the current crop of politicos, both yours and ours, and their handling of events since 2008. Mind you I have to live long enough first!

God bless America