Political agenda...

If I am a talking point, it isn't one that I am ashamed of.

If a talking point is a topic that invites discussion, how does it have it's own opinion about the topic??

The challenge is to find stories that are not slanted. I would rather my commentators say up front that's what they are, and I do believe O'reilly makes no attempt to hide it. He made this point ages ago and no one listened. I still don't believe anyone is listening now, even with a child being shot while studying on the her bed or a 9yr old being dragged into an alley and executed. I could get behind leadership that would take up the causes of those innocents, but unfortunately more has been done on Imgflip in memes to call attention to it than Al Sharkton.

I agree with what you are saying, I am not a very political person I make fun of both sides. Until they take the money out of politics, nothing will ever change. In my opinion our country is run by corporations not politicians, so I have very little faith in any of them to actually handle anything in the peoples best interest.

I'm with you in as much as SOME corporations have way too much influence. The idea of "too big to fail" really means "too big for us to do without their donations". I'm not down on all corporations, but I am down on ANY company becoming so big that they can't be told no.

Very true, it's all extremely frustrating. I think the bottom line is everybody on both sides wants things to change. No matter what a persons beliefs we can all agree that something needs to be done, if only we could all agree on how to do it.

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lolz. You said libtards. You really think there are two sides to the same coin.

Chicago bears fans committing suicide don't count.

IMO the media cares more about the murderers than the people who died. It doesn't matter how many died or how, but the fact that the murderers were terrorists is important. It probably wouldn't have been heard about all over the world if the killers were black and doing something like holding up a bank etc.

I have seen some family members interviewed, but I can certainly understand if there is a reluctance on the part of others not to be. Its hard to say what the appropriate "scale" would be, I think all of us would hope prefer that we never had a need for one.

But not all at one time .... why does that make a difference? It doesn't ... forget I said anything.

This is what happens when citizens are denied the right to arm themselves for defence.

Chicago, Detroit, and Los Angeles make the United States a bottom feeder in thecivilized world for gun violence. If it weren't for those three gun control heavy cities, we'd be close to the top.

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So many people die annually from gunfire in the US that the death toll between 1968 and 2011 eclipses all wars ever fought by the country. According to research by Politifact, there were about 1.4 million firearm deaths in that period, compared with 1.2 million US deaths in every conflict from the Revolutionary War to Iraq.

You fail to acknowledge the intended slant in this statistic. If you are trying to rape my daughter and I shoot you..that goes down in the liberal media as a "gun death". If you are robbing a liquor store and the owner shoots you, that goes down as a "gun death". If you shoot at a police officer and he shoots back and kills you, that goes down as a "gun death". If you remove justifiable homicide, self-defense, justifiable law enforcement shootings, suicides, home defense et al. then the stats will tell a completely different story. The places in the U.S. that have the strictest gun laws have the highest gun deaths. Why do you think that is? EVERY mass shooting in the U.S. has taken place in a "Gun Free" zone..why do you think that is? I'd really like to know your thinking on this. If a criminal breaks into your house and wants to rape your wife or daughter are you going to tell him your house is gun-free and he shouldn't be there? Do you think he will leave if you tell him that? Perhaps you should just advise him that breaking into a persons home is illegal. I'm sure once you point that out to him, he'll leave.

Then I guess it is in the interests of the NRA etc to produce those statistics.

Another interesting thing I have observed for which I don't have access to any statistics, but plenty of anecdotal evidence, is that those who are strongly in favour of a 'right to bear arms' radiate an atmosphere of fear. 'What if's are all very well, but what is the reality? How often does this actually happen? Or, perhaps more importantly, how often does this not actually happen? 'What if' the hypothetical rapist has a gun to your wife's temple which he bought that day from Walmart and whispers that if she makes a noise he will kill her and all her children? Etc etc.

The reality is, for some reason, American citizens have a propensity for shooting each other. Perhaps it's the easy access to hardware. Perhaps it's some form of mass psychosis. Perhaps it's both.

You ask "How often does this actually happen"..the answer is approximately 2 million times a year. I myself was an intended victim twice. But I was armed. Someone invaded my home with a rifle, I drew my pistol and disarmed him and held him for police. Someone attempted to assault me at work in the parking lot, I drew my pistol and he ran away. I didn't shoot either one so it never made the news, just as none of the other self-defense cases do. The news only reports when someone dies.

You make some good points. Especially about situational awareness and using 'common sense', a commodity that is all too lacking these days.

Arming people on planes is an interesting concept. I used to joke that I would always take a bomb onto a plane when I flew. Because although the statistical likelihood of there being a bomb on a plane was very small, the likelihood of there being two bombs on a plane was pretty much infinitesimal. However, that's not funny any more.

Of course a gun is also a very effective offensive weapon as well.

By the way, my 'what if' statements were in response to a comment about a r*pist sneaking into my home and attacking my wife. It's one of those extraordinarily unlikely, but emotive scenarios which people use to define a whole issue. A bit like allowing abortion for everyone because what if the woman was made pregnant by **pe.

The point isn't the "what-ifs" we can't do anything about. What if a meteorite fell on my head when I stepped out the door tomorrow? Not a single flipping thing I can do to prepare for that one. However there are things we can prepare for.

Also Walmart no longer sells guns. Haven't for years...might want to do your research better next time.

And what if the hypothetical wife had enough situational awareness to avoid the hypothetical rapist in the first place? One other "problem" with gun statistics is that the very people who carry guns are, by and large, the people who are least likely to ever have to use them. They must be more aware of their surroundings (a), to avoid having to use their gun and (b), to prevent their gun falling into someone else's hands. Sure, there are a few morons out there who carry guns and haven't really got a clue what they're doing; however they are the exception and not the rule.

The reality is, for some reason, the human race has a propensity for being an unpleasant, murderous species. Perhaps it's our creativeness; the 9-11 terrorists definitely had access to guns, but they wanted to make a much bigger statement. So they flew jets into the WTC, Pentagon, and almost the White House, and thousands of people died. No, I'm not saying guns could have stopped 9-11 (though actually passengers on the jets carrying guns could have stopped the terrorists, or at least brought the planes down without hitting anything...the passengers would have died, but the death toll would have been far lower. And Flight 93 clearly showed the passengers were willing to do so). What I am saying is that, if a psycho wants to kill someone or hurt someone, even if he can't get his hands on a gun, he'll find a way to do his thing if he really wants to. A gun happens to be the best defensive tool in existence, since carrying a broadsword around tends to attract goggle-eyed stares. Again, those of us who carry guns don't do so because we're afraid. We arm ourselves because there are things we value highly enough to defend with our very lives, if necessary. And because we choose to make that commitment, we choose the best tool available to use for the job at hand. Which the gun just happens to be.

Don't know what state your living in,but Walmart DOES sell guns, I've bought several here in SC!