But That's None Of My Business

^^Is this guy even a Christian?^^

Notice the meme says : Talk about God in the middle of it. Some places you literally mention the name of Jesus and people say your judgmental. As a follower of Christ, I love all people, As Jesus does. It's not Jesus that will stop you from going to heaven. It's your sin. I don't understand why people just won't accept him. I suppose unbelief, or they just like sinning. I don't know why people think we don't have fun though. I serve Jesus no matter what people say. I just say bow now or you'll bow later. No hate, no condemnation. I've never missed out on any good experience because of God. He's only brought me Good.

The concept of sin is meaningless outside the context of your religious beliefs. That you consider certain thoughts and deeds to be "sins" is irrelevant to a non-Christian.

Re-read your comment. You are judging people to be sinners though you do not know them. You claim they are sinners and must like sinning, but a sin is an opinion that changes the world over depending on the religion and the various denominations of the religion. Did you know it is a sin to wear mixed fabric clothing according to the judeo-christian bible? Did you know it is a sin to be clean shaven? To eat shell fish, crustaceans, and other bottom dwelling sea life is a sin in the bible. To eat pigs is a sin. To not have children is a sin. To masturbate is a sin, to work on sabbath days is a sin.

Christians would be a whole lot better if they kept their mouths shut about god but instead simply talked strictly of Jesus and strictly of Jesus' teachings. God is different to every christian, he is portrayed as a total sadist by many, as a bigot by more, and as a good loving thing by quite a few less. Telling people they are going to go to hell or will "bow later" after saying you love all people is a subtle form of judgement. Even if your deity existed, you would not know what your deity though.

I recommend a good group of writings from Mark Twain, they are called Letters From Earth and are a delight to read. They make some very valid points about the bible, the biblical deity, and how the humans of this planet view both: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/twain/letearth.htm

*thought---typing skills are going to hell in a hand basket these days lol

That, my friend, is where you are incorrect: how is a common fact judgment? It isn't judgmental to say that, for example, an alcoholic drinks alcohol, it's a fact in of itself. And as for the concept of sin, yes, it may sound like there are ridiculous ones, but the fact of the matter is that (first of all, some of them are either taken out of context or manipulated over re-telling) to us Christians, there is one God, and that is the ONLY interpretation that really exists.

I love it when butthurt christers vote down my comments :D

Love the meme :D

Really, people? EVERYONE'S a sinner. Christian or not. It's not your sin that prevents you. It's your belief.

How can someone that doesn't believe in a religion that believes in sin be a sinner? Doesn't make sense. No one is a sinner.

Keep telling yourself that...

Do you honestly think arguing will make us think that God doesn't exist? Unless you give us factual proof that there is no such thing as a God, you can't really tell us to shut up because He "doesn't exist." We can believe whatever we want to. It's called the First Amendment. But it doesn't matter if you don't believe in it, because the world is going to end someday, and it's when Earth will be at it's darkest moment, when the world will be full of sin. You may think that we're stupid or moronic for believing in an invisible man in the sky, but one day, that WILL matter whether or not. The world just may *poof* not exist anymore, like you atheists say. The world may be set fire by Jesus. No one knows. But for now, we'll all just stick with what we believe in, and whoever's right in the end will have one the true argument: Does God exist, or is He just a fairytale? People believe the answer is he does exist. Others say he doesn't. It's just what kind of mindset you have.

You really don't have a clue what atheism is, do you?

I just put that picture as a joke. I know what atheism is. It's when someone doesn't believe in a religion, and sometimes they will try and disprove that religion.

Sorry if I was a bit quick on the trigger, but 15 years of dealing with that kind of thing on Usenet kind of conditions you to shoot first and ask questions later. <G>

That was actually a great description of atheism.

*won the true argument. Wow, even while I'm trying to defend myself I can't spell right. :P

Not everyone on Imgflip is from the US so the first amendment jazz doesn't necessarily apply. Calling people sinners because they don't think like you is ten thousand miles of free range rude. No one is a sinner. Sin is but an opinion that changes with a religion's denomination and with each individual. To some muslims is a sin for women to learn to read or go to school. To some christians it is a sin for people to be gay or marry people of different races. To some jews it is a sin to trim beard hair and eat pigs. Sin is only an opinion, it exists nowhere else but the minds of those that wish it to exist, much like deities. There is much that is not yet understood in the world of physics, the universe may very well have erupted out of another universe. For all we know we are simply part of a vast multiverse. Do explain how an anthropomorphic deity poofed the earth into existence. If you're going to talk deities, at least go the pantheistic route, which makes a lot more sense than abrahamic deities. You can believe what you want but you cross a line when you start calling other people sinners. Earth will end, maybe due to human stupidity, but more likely it will just extinguish as the sun blows up. Life will end long before that probably. Humans likely won't see that at all. I don't think religious folks are stupid, i know many religious folks that aren't stupid. I do know that humans are prone to delusional thinking and delight in making things up to explain the previously unexplainable. That is a matter of evolution. I do find religious folks rude when they lump the non-religious or those of other religions in with their own line of thinking and call everyone a sinner or call everyone an abomination or a bad person or some other insult. And you won nothing. There was no argument and you didn't need to "defend" yourself since you were not attacked.

I literally just said EVERYONE's a sinner (according to religion), so I never even said that I was Mr. Perfect, because I'm part of EVERYONE. I never said I won the argument, I was correcting a mistake in grammar, but you would know that if you read the whole thing. You said how Christianity is getting into the government more and more these days, when it's clearly not. Chick-fil-a was created by a Christian and there have been multiple accounts where the government has tried to get rid of the business. I can literally tell you this entire lesson about how "God looks for imperfections" but you'd probably just get on to me about how untrue it all is. And the Bible is real evidence. People like you (atheists) think we make up stuff to explain the unexplainable, when that's not even what we do. We just take facts based off of evidence and try to relate it to the Bible to see if there were any incidences that could've caused it. Do you think I don't know about other Christian-related religions, because from what it sounds like you're just taking my words, and trying to disprove everything I said. Sure, maybe sin is only an opinion, but to those who believe in it, much like you said deities. You just said you crossed the line when I called OTHER PEOPLE sinners, like I'm pointing out specific people and telling about their imperfections. That's not what I even meant at all. Like I said, at least three times now, everyone's a sinner (or since you think that it's not really a word, let's just use bad things that we can feel guilt by), which means, you, definitely me, and everyone else in this world. If you think I'm calling myself perfect, I would much rather consider myself the worst human being in the world than perfect, because that's what my God would much rather be than better than everyone else. So, still think I'm some goody-two shoes Mr. Perfect who thinks their better than everyone? I personally hate fighting between people, because usually ignorance gets in the way of one and they'll start saying stuff that wasn't/shouldn't have been said. I would really like to stop now.

The way I see our religion is based on is quite simple. A long time ago, a few dudes were picked by God to deliver his message and they wrote books and now we have those books to live by. Here's an interesting fact: The writings of Plato are older than the books in the Bible however, Plato's writings are taught in schools and accepted as true. So Plato's writings are older yet we still can't accept the Bible as a valid source of history. Forget about religion for a second, the Bible is two things: History and religion. It gives religions it's basis but it also provides a historical account. It is one thing to say that you aren't Christian, it's another thing to say that the events in the Bible never happened. You did say you won the argument though...

Oh and by the way, I'm not arguing with you. I am totally siding with Prof. Kapanuckle.

I never said I won the argument. I WAS correcting myself. See?

Oh, and when you said:

I love it when butthurt christers vote down my comments :D

You are literally doing the exact same thing to me, now.

This is exactly why I stopped getting into religious arguments with atheists on iFunny. They get to angry and stubborn. I love listening to Atheist arguments because I am pretty open to new ideas and I love listening to see if there is anything that could convice me otherwise. But for some reason, when I try to debate Christianity with atheists, they don't want to hear it. That's why I propose atheism is for the lazy. It's for the people who just want to say "Screw it. I don't want to have to believe in anything and I don't want to commit my life." It's like giving up. Let's just face it. No atheist can successfully explain to me how the universe was created. So far, I have not heard a single argument that explains how the universe was created without God. So a singularity was in the beginning and then that singularity started to expand creating the known fundamental forces in the universe and then it rapidly expanded into the universe. I asked once a teacher where the singularity came from and he said he didn't know. Nobody knows how the singularity got there or why it started to expand. One person told me that quantum fluctuations caused it to expand and currently we have deviced that allow us to replicate that. A few atheists have said "It is completely possible for the universe to create itself because we have replicated the creation before proving that it is possible." You know what doesn't make sense though? We have replicated the Big Bang before but the replication required people to make the whole thing and set it up. That means that someone would have to be there in the beginning to make the universe i.e. God.

But, like I said before, I will stop talking. If you believe that you won because I stopped, then you can think that, because I don't care anymore. You can go ahead and do whatever you want. I'm not stopping you with my religion. It's your life, not mine.

What makes you think i voted down your comments? I never said i won, there was no argument to win. You're making arguments out of a whole lot of nothing dude. Smoke a doobie and relax. The world is only a vampire if you let it drain you. I do not really feel guilt about things that i do, so that debate can go south quick. A lot of people don't feel guilt over murder and other things some might find deplorable. Guilt is not an indication of sin, or morality for that matter. But that's just branching off. There really was no argument. No one is a sinner because religion is a bunch of BS except to those that choose to believe in it. Calling everyone a sinner, when you do not know everyone is insulting to other people. Calm down and think about this jazz for a moment. Going in hot and aggressive clouds the thinking. I never said you were calling yourself perfect either. We can stop this at any point, i thought it would cease after my previous comments because there was no argument. I offer you a very good philosophical lecture that you may find useful someday, it's about faith in general, it may help you understand the points of view of those that are not religious: http://www.skeptic.com/skepticism-101/jesus-the-easter-bunny-and-other-delusions/

Yes, because the sun will "blow up." You're really making me laugh over here.

Wow, I never really noticed that he said "blow up." The Sun doesn't blow up. It condenses into a "white dwarf" the size of Earth. It won't supply as much light or heat, but it will supply some, probably not enough to sustain as much life on Earth as it does now. But, yeah. Then it will turn into a "black dwarf" and will slowly disappear into a nebula to turn into another star, starting the whole system up again.

"He", yes "he"...we can pretend. The sun does not just extinguish like a blown out candle flame. http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/04/26/so-youve-learned-that-the-sun/ Physics and the sciences of space are not my specialty (i have long preferred the biological sciences and am quite a deal more versed in animal and human physiology than any other areas of science), but i do remember my science classes that dealt with space science. The sun will produce an explosion and the earth will likely be eliminated during that explosion.

So tell me of your anthropomorphic deity and how you think it could possibly exist. By what processes did it come to be? If you want to believe blindly, that's fine. But that doesn't make you right nor does it make your line of thinking logical. It's sad that when humans don't understand a concept they invent some magic monster/deity to explain it. This is a massive universe, yet the goofy little humans on a tiny blue speck think some anthropomorphic deity (with human traits) is doting solely on them. You might as well believe reptilian aliens are raping earth women to create a master race. It makes as much sense.

If you're calling me stupid (and millions of others) for believing in religions and Gods, then go ahead. I'm not stopping you. I honestly don't think you have the right to go ahead and call people idiots for doing something as simple as being part of some group of people who believe something, but I can't stop you. I could call you stupid for not believing anything, and thinking that the universe can be perfectly functional by itself, but I won't, because I am trying NOT to stoop to your level by calling people morons for having an opinion, because everyone has the right to an opinion. Choosing a religion is like saying "I prefer chocolate over vanilla," or vice versa. People can choose whatever they want. You may not like the fact that we "follow an anthropomorphic deity blindly" as you say, but we can do whatever we want. You know. I see it. You want it so that people can accept the world as just whatever. So I'll do this. I will join you. I will be like a slave to you, because you are better than me since you think like a real human being, because I'm useless. I'm just a sad little slave boy that thinks that there's a giant man in the sky who I can think about to give me hope. But because it doesn't exists, what hope do I have? It's not like life is going to come by and grant me with anything.



Religion is all some people have. It's something to hold onto whenever they feel unaccomplished or underestimated. Religion can give people hope for doing things. It gives the courage. It's like a little self-esteem booster, just there are some certainties that can be there. So, are you saying some veteran living on the street praying to God deserves to be there because he is delusional? Do you think the single mother of four crying her soul out to the Lord night to night to night deserves to go through that pain and struggle because she thinks an invisible being can help her through her problems? I'd like you to answer those two questions before you tell me about how low my IQ is even more.

No.. Believing blindly is saying that the universe just created itself and sticking to that for some reason.

What causes gravity? Why do plants breathe carbon and expel oxygen? Why do black holes do what they do? What makes some things live and other things not? These are all just properties of the universe, they're givens, they don't have to be proven. God doesn't have to be proven.

We do know how the world will end. It is stated in Revelations.

Ever single human is a sinner. Not a single one escapes that label. You don't need to be Christian to be a human.

insistant*

insistent* for goodness sake lol

i upoveted all but one comment.

Those, my friend, are not true Christians. They don't deserve to be referred to as "followers of God."

well, you have to remember, we have no idea how life as we know it came about. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Religion isn't about knowing, it's about spiritual belief

Your definition of "religion" depends on where you stand.