Some dem/leftist in a comment section held the idiot ball while saying the unborn are a clump of cells. Here's my reply to that.

I heard someone actually try to justify abortion with this argument.

I also heard somebody say that too. Dumbest pro choice argument ever and that's a high bar. Some countries don't even have an SSN system😭✌️

And tons of apartment babies and child trafficking babies don't get one. It's fun trying to enroll a undocumented child into school, said no social service worker ever. It's like the wild West if you weren't aware. Lots and lots of tight lipped Catholic keeping the machine running smoothly.

Yeah it's hard to get this kid into school therefore it's not a human and we should kill it. Do you realize how dumb this sounds?

What's dumb is a society allowing women to give birth at home while being sex trafficked, then surrendering their baby to their owner just for the child to get trafficked. Another dumb thing our society allows is pregnant drug addicts and alcoholics. Any smart pregnant woman knows its best to plan a sober pregnancy, and if a woman is dealing with a pregnancy while being intoxicated and or a drug user, she should be offered a medical opportunity to terminate the pregnancy.

It should be illegal to take unneeded drugs, smoke, or drink while pregnant. I think we can all agree on that. But if the woman is a drug addict or an alcoholic that doesn't mean she should be allowed to abort that's dumb. If you are addicted to things like that you shouldn't of been having sex in the first place. A baby shouldn't have to die because somebody can't go 9 months without drinking.

Ok so when that woman doesn't opt for an abortion early on in the pregnancy continues to use drugs, has baby in the hospital, then becomes a criminal once babys blood test comes back positive, it's ok to pick off meth babies and fetal alcohol poisoned babies onto society to deal with while the mother goes to jail? Why not just force the baby to grow up in a drug addicted household? Like society already does untill authorities get involved when it's too late? I'm sorry but if a early abortion was less stigmatized we might actually have a healthier society when it comes to these real life issues that a unbelievable amount of people face. I'm glad you were born into a functional religious family but news flash not everyone has that luck or luxury.

You know most drug addicted women sell themselves for drugs, and they end up pregnant. But you obviously don't work in that part of helping these women get through their situation in society.v

Why should we have laws to help people break the laws? I don't work in the prostitution but I try my best to pitch in as much as I can with charities that help woman get through pregnancy.

I think it's best to terminate these pregnancies early then to have to bear witness to the torture and deformity of these innocent creations that didn't ask to be put on earth. That whole gods plan is just as important as God giving doctors and women the opportunity to access abortion. It's all a part of God's world, and plan. If it wasn't it wouldn't be on earth, and for a religious believer to try and eradicate all abortion access in general, that would be against gods will on earth.

By your logic anything on this earth that you can do including homicide, terrorism, theft, trespassing, intimidation, violence, vandalism, and racism is all completely fine because it's part of God's plan. Being able to do something or legally be able to do something does not mean it's not a sin.

Sin is a religious belief. Removing a pregnancy is not breaking the law. Keeping embros in a facility is not breaking the law. But God put these issues into the world for a reason. If you so believe and choose to sin that's between you God and the person prosecuting you.

ur the one who brought religion into this buddy

I bring religion into this because most pro life advocates use religious beliefs as the life defining only way life starts at conception argument. I bring the god wouldn't have made it exist through his good and evil world argument.

I'm glad you donate to charities. Most pregnancy centers are religious. The only non religious center is planned parenthood, but I don't see you being a person to donate towards women's choice.

I'm not against woman being able to chose things I'm against murder. And you can't just make religious arguments and then just be all like "oH iT's JuSt A rElIGiOuS bElIF" when I try debunk your arguments according to the teachings of the religion you brought up. And I suppose you have never left the USA because there are plenty of non religious charities where you can donate to help woman with their pregnancies. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what God they believe in if they believe in any because the charity is helping people. I don't care if they worship God, Allah, nothing, or even plastic chairs! It helps people so I donate.

Yes I've traveled out of the country, and I've traveled to places that have religion but lots of non believers. I have seen the horrible troubles pregnant woman face, I have also seen the mental burdens of incest and rape. And it's all the more reason to support access to abortion. If you didn't know that Texas has a huge problem with incest cases then you do now, unfortunately the SAFE Alliance can't do much now in Texas to help victims.

Supporting charities that help women carry these burdens is better than supporting something that ends in the death of an innocent baby. Having an abortion doesn't erase the trauma of incest or rape.

You are something else taking abortion away as a option is simply not allowing the person to make the decision on what will ease their trauma. If it was you and you were pregnant with your uncle, or fathers or cousins offspring wouldn't you want to have the option to abort? You do know the trauma that follows incestural bloodlines, from random instant death, to deformity, and chronic illness, sure some anomilities like Cleopatra exist, but still it should be an accessable option.

Actually my family would probably want me to keep it because we greatly value human life. You shouldn't be able to kill fetuses just because they were going to be born with disabilities from being inbred. If the fetus is guaranteed to die then go ahead but if not let it live. I also have friends who are women and have given birth who support my takes. Every life is precious.

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