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The Irony of America's Very Existence! | Revolt against the Brits over taxes; Gain control over taxes; America; Tax more than the Brits ever did; Tax more than the brits ever did | image tagged in memes,gru's plan,america,american revolution | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
133 views 10 upvotes Made by RonaldtheRichard 1 month ago in politics
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1 up, 1mo,
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It wasn't about how much. It was about representation.
0 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
Well that's true. However, representation still isn't a very good reason, it was most likely a setup reason to rile up the common folk.
1 up, 1mo,
2 replies
What?!? Without representation in goverment you have no say at all. That's just nonsense.
0 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
If you're a colony under the British crown and treated well, why should you?
1 up, 1mo,
1 reply
We weren't treated well.
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation...
Exerpt from declaration of independence.
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
Wow, using the declaration of independence as your source, the most biased and pro-America you can get. Most of these are a little overdone.

For example, the British refusing to pass assent to laws that are "most wholesome and necessary for the public good?" By who's opinion? Isn't it the British who owned the colony?
And the British governors dissolving local legislative houses? What would you do if your province made laws that opposed or contradicted your country's laws? Because that's how that was happening, for example, when the Massachusetts House of Representatives was dissolved by the governor because it was circulating a letter that criticized British taxation policy.

If you think the British mistreated the Thirteen Colonies, I have a counter-list of perks that the Colonies were allowed, and a list that is not an overwhelming amount of examples to smother you.
1. Considerable Degree of Self-Government
The Brits largely allowed the Americans to govern how they wanted and do what they wanted. They also taxed the Americans very little until after the 7 Years' War (You may know it as the French and Indian War) where they slightly raised taxes on the Americans, which triggered outrage.
2. Self-legislature
The Brits allowed for there to exist American assemblies that chose which laws to pass and how much to tax.
3. Military support
The British defended the Thirteen Colonies with their military. They vanquished Colonial France in the 7 Years' War (French and Indian War) and successfully defended the Colonies.
4.Salutary Neglect
The British technically had restrictions on who the Americans could trade with but didn't enforce them for a while, and because of this, the Americans ended up spoiled and revolutionary.
1 up, 4w,
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Eh, you'll notice all of your examples fall into the things that were abused. The whole circulating a bill criticizing taxation doesn't seem to rise to the level of needing to dissolve a governing body.
I agree they got a taste of freedom and liberty and realized they didn't need Britain to exist.
0 ups, 4w
They used the dissolving to remove the tax bill, not for the sake of dissolving.
0 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
The situation of the American revolt is quite similar to non-state US territories revolting because they don't have voting abilities.
1 up, 1mo,
2 replies
They can leave anytime they want. Of course they'll lose the funding and protection of the US. Completely different.
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
The British colonists could return to England anytime they wanted to, or to anywhere else in Europe. Anyone could leave anytime they want to, if they have the money. And you say that makes them different.
1 up, 4w,
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No, they couldn't they owned land, and had all their money invested in their farms and businesses.
0 ups, 4w,
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And a poor person in a US territory can just conjure enough money and fly away?
1 up, 4w
They don't own property or land and maybe just an old car. It's a lot easier. But meant the territory could leave.
0 ups, 4w
Of course they can't leave whenever they want. Goodness gracious.

They were all taken by force, they don't just get to walk away on their own by their own decision.
0 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
Knowing that, I made the meme. The Americans did revolt over taxes, and ended up taxing more than the Brits were taxing them.
1 up, 1mo,
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It was about representation not amounts. We are represented now.
0 ups, 1mo,
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What about our US territories? They don't get voting representation.
1 up, 1mo,
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No, they get funding and protection and they agreed to ut. They can leave anytime they want, but they'll lose what we give them. Totally different.
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
Technically, Congress has to get involved for a territory to leave.
1 up, 4w,
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That is correct and the president has to proclaim them free, but the first step is a popular referendum of the people of the territory.
0 ups, 4w
Whoop-de-doo, a popularity contest of yay or nay.
It may be the first step, but it would also be the only step.
0 ups, 4w
No, they did not agree to it, it was imposed on them. By force. They're the booty of war, captured territory from the enemy (ie Spain), they had no say in the matter then, they have none now. They cannot leave anytime they want. Otherwise they would have long ago.
2 ups, 1mo
And look at how much more we have now than we did back then
1 up, 1mo,
1 reply
Take one look at New York and California...
Who in government in those states are raising and voting up more taxes?
0 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
Hey, at least our taxes are going to good use. And, with us being a developed country and all, we can handle the taxes.
1 up, 1mo
Except if a person rents(property tax) or does a lot of driving for work(gas tax) then it's increasing rents and gas prices.
0 ups, 1mo
Mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, announces property tax increases on American homeowners

This new property tax increase of 11.3% on homeowners will be used to close their budget shortfall

This is the same mayor who’s allowed billions in fraud to be stolen by Somali immigrants and their daycare and home health care scams

Declining downtown commercial property values are shifting more of the tax burden onto residential properties

It turns out when you flood your city with 3rd world immigrants on welfare, you can no longer make your budget targets and your city’s downtown fails

Keep in mind all the endless fraud that was also uncovered in Minneapolis; now they want to increase property taxes to make up the money

Federal Prosecutors have stated that half or more of roughly $18 billion in federal funds spent on 14 Minnesota-run programs since 2018 may have been stolen
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