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You go on about how capitalism lifts people out of poverty but you don't realize how exactly it lifts people out of poverty

You go on about how capitalism lifts people out of poverty but you don't realize how exactly it lifts people out of poverty | Capitalism only lifts people out of poverty when the wealth generated by it is redistributed to people rather than being hoarded by a few elites | image tagged in memes,change my mind,capitalism,economics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 21h,
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Which is exactly why we need more folks like Mamdani
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0 ups, 21h
No, it's the corporate elite who want you to stay with nothing and not gain anything more just so they can keep hoarding more wealth. Do you really think people of lower classes are lifted out of poverty by a few elite gaining more wealth and never giving anything to anyone else, leaving the little guy with nothing? No, that's the very opposite way poverty alleviation works, people are lifted out of poverty from the wealth generated by capitalism coming to them and gaining more to themselves as individuals. When I refer to redistribution of wealth, I'm not necessarily referring to government handouts, I am referring to getting a job, earning one's keep and gaining more income through one's salary including getting a raise and a promotion and government handouts don't do that, they just leave one dependent on government handouts. I am for welfare as a temporary solution but not long term for that drains the system and one has to eventually get a job. Corporate elites want you to not have a job because you having a job and a decent salary from them requires them to give a little to you and they would much rather hoard wealth and power even though you having a job from them isn't exactly getting free handouts for nothing. Did you know that many Amazon warehouse workers are on government handouts? That's because Jeff Bezos refuses to pay them a decent wage and wants less for them so he can have more for himself that he doesn't even invest more into the company but buying extra luxuries nobody in any way needs even though those workers damn well work very hard generating more wealth for him, like I said I believe a job is the way out of poverty as opposed to government handouts and if a job doesn't pay you decently for your work and you end up being on government handouts then that defeats the purpose of a job and I believe Amazon workers have every reason to unionize and go on strike. In fact I also believe that unions are better than raising the government mandated minimum wage.
2 ups, 21h,
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Capt Obvious  | the "capitalist class" is 
driven by an 
unavoidable imperative to 
accumulate capital. This relentless engine of production 
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From the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and his budyy Engels:

In Chapter 1 ("Bourgeois and Proletarians"), Marx and Engels emphasize that the capitalist class is driven by an unavoidable imperative to accumulate capital. This relentless engine of production creates unprecedented material wealth and technological marvels.

Interestingly, Marx did not simply view industrial capitalism as an unmitigated evil. Instead, he saw it as an objectively necessary and highly productive stage in human history. However, he argued that this drive to generate wealth

Does not even the United Nations have a goal to get people out of Poverty ?
Seems Marx has identified the greatest way yet devised to create Wealth, which is Supply Side econ of Milford Friedman..
0 ups, 20h
First of all, I don't adhere to extremist ideologies like Marxism or even "democratic socialism".

Second of all even though I don't adhere to Marxism and don't agree with a lot of things Karl Marx said, sometimes I thought he made a good point or two including this thing you just pointed out. I don't necessarily broadly view capitalism as some "evil" I only view certain things that happen under it as certain evils. I do think that socialists have too much of narrow view of viewing capitalism as some "evil".

I don't view capitalists generating wealth as necessarily some evil, I would much rather have capitalism generate wealth the way it does than have wealth being "generated" the way socialists want it to which doesn't actually generate wealth but have a very shitty economy not generating wealth and leaving everyone with the bare minimum and starve to death. It seems that socialists themselves don't fully understand their own ideology and don't realize that Marx himself even though he was the father of socialism agreed with viewpoints that capitalists agreed with and he realized that tennats of capitalism are what part of makes an economy strong. Many of the right also don't realize that there is more to Marx than just dogmatic leftist tennats of his ideology, Marx did actually have a basic understanding of economics.
1 up, 15h,
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Not redistributed, earned by those who generate the wealth. Get a job.
0 ups, 15h
One point I'm trying to make is that wealth redistribution doesn't necessarily come in the form of taxation and government handouts giving free money. The way I see things, paying wages to people who work for you is also a form of wealth redistribution. Working in a job also isn't getting free handouts but for your employer to pay you, he obviously pays out of his own wealth he accumulated and that lifts you out of poverty and again it's not getting handouts for nothing, you're helping generate more wealth for your employer. Some employers are unfortunately inclined to not pay their employees despite being something they are legally required to do, when they can't pay their employees nothing, they try to cut the wages of their employees or try to fire their employees and find ways to generate wealth without the need of employees.
0 ups, 9h,
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Nobody was ever lifted out of poverty by Marxism. Except a few party leaders.
0 ups, 9h
You're strawmanning me, I am not in any way making a case for Marxism as I don't adhere to such extreme ideologies. I am for people being lifted out of poverty with the wealth generated by capitalism being distributed to other people and not just a top ruling class. Such countries that have such a system arw basically any developed country that's not the USA including Denmark, Finland and Switzerland abd they obviously are not Marx dictatorships, they are more free market than the USA, in fact Finland left the totalitarian USSR to become its own free nation.
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Capitalism only lifts people out of poverty when the wealth generated by it is redistributed to people rather than being hoarded by a few elites