What could go wrong???

He never said that. It's a lie spread by conservatives

It's funny because it is true. Considering how Mamdani so easily won the election, using NYC as a base for and Islamic attack on the US would be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.

I'm not saying that the Muslims do this, but it certainly gives them an very easy target on a major US city. It isn't the first time the Islamacists have targeted NYC.

I wonder if Mamdani will change 9/11 from a day of solemn reflection in NYC to a celebration. I guess when he shouts "Allah Akbar" the next September 11th.

Is there any record of him ever celebrating 9/11? No? Then why would he do that?

Did I say there was?

"I wonder if Mamdani will change 9/11 from a day of solemn reflection in NYC to a celebration. I guess when he shouts "Allah Akbar" the next September 11th."

You asked if there was any record of him celebrating 9/11. I just asked if he would make it a day of celebration in the future. I never said anything about him celebrating it in the past.

It wouldn't surprise me if he did celebrate it. It not be a bit shocked he did shout "Allah Akbar" next 9/11 or maybe some 9/11 in the future. He's an evil man.

I remember listening to NPR radio on 9/12 the day after and one liberal after another called in to say how we "deserved" this. I wanted to reach through my car radio and punch each and every one of them. They completely dehumanized the event. Did those people "deserve" to die?

But libs have never been to bright. They spit on soldiers returning from Vietnam as if the war was their fault. They trashed Tesla cars when Musk was a part of DOGE. As if damaging privately own cars was going to some how hurt Musk. All if did was give him more sales in parts.

Allahu akbar.

Don't worry, akhi. Inshallah, New York will be Muslim soon, inshallah. 🥰

Caliphate soon, inshallah. The kafirs will learn their lesson, hehe.

New York City would be a prize for them. Everything they could ever want to launch their jihad is there. Fortunately, the one thing that isn't there is guns. Also fortunately, there's more guns in just 1 red state than most armies in the world possess. Theirs a whole lot of good ol' boys who are just itching try out some of their firearms on any jihadi who decides to go infidel hunting.

Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that, shall we? The US already had one Civil War. Ideally we don't want another one. Most Muslims are not part of a jihadist terror cell secretly trying to conquer the West. There'd be a heck of a lot of terrorists if they were, given there's almost 2 billion Muslims on earth (at least on paper since there's wide variation in religiosity just like for Christians, ranging from so-called devout believers to cultural Christians or people who just go to church for Christmas and funerals, etc., or outright non-believers who still identify to some level with the label).

Normal people of any religion or none just want to live normal lives like everyone else...

I'm the last person to want another Civil War. But as long as the left keeps escalating their violence, they'll eventually start one.

I just hope they can hold off until I dead and buried. I don't want to see that kind of bloodshed.

I think culture wars are a sad fact of our times in general and I pray we will nip this in the bud before it escalates too much (and when I say I pray, I mean it metaphorically because I don't believe in any god that most religious people believe in and think most religion is BS and falls woefully short of anything I'd expect from a Deity or Higher Intelligence smart enough to create this Cosmos.

(Not to want to be too blunt and blasphemous, but I feel most human religion is a bit of an embarrassing and, dare I say it, childish insult to Whoever or Whatever is behind all This and they must just be rolling their eyes if this is the best we can do and these are the best "sacred texts" we can come up with as a species – not impressed, sorry), but I don't really jive with the militant atheists either coz they suck at parties and also suck at funerals and have no satisfying or comforting answers either when shit happens other than smarmy copouts and just shrug and enjoy your life or something, so I don't hang out with them either).

As for the culture wars though, then yes, it's an arms race: the more the radical left pushes one way the more the radical right pushes the other, and vice versa, so here we are... Arguing over nonsense.

All BS if you ask me. I'm still waiting for someone sensible to come along, but not holding my breath.

Are you speaking about religion from a point of ignorance or have you actually made an in depth study into all religions. Most people who make blanket statements like this are woefully ignorant about the teachings of just Christianity, let alone all major religions.

So unless you have studied every major religion and all of the factions within each religion in depth which would take decades, even a lifetime then you are just being intellectually dishonest.

If you just don't want to believe in God then just say that.

I mean, I'm not familiar with all the thousands of religions and belief systems on earth, it's true, so I can't speak for those. And I'm not an expert in Religious Studies. I'm just some guy on the internet.

Grew up Christian and genuinely believed it and went to church half my life. Make of that what you will. But I genuinely believed it. Lost my faith/turned my back on Jesus in my 20s. I've studied bits of the Torah and Qur'an in the original languages and I wasn't impressed either, putting it mildly. I've travelled a lot.

So that's why I guess I'm still sympathetic to religion and religious people, and defend them against incorrect bs, even though I'm now a semi-committed atheist and have no plans on going back ever, so don't waste your time trying to convert me, because you'll be wasting your time, trust me. Try if you want though, but you won't get anywhere. I didn't spend half my life extricating myself from that shit just to go back into it. That's over for real. (But I don't have much in common with militant atheists either coz they're annoying.)

Actually, unlike some, I genuinely *do* want to believe in God. I'm pissed that He doesn't even have the decency to exist and own up for the absolute shitshow He left by creating this crazy immoral and brutal world or provide us any vaguely convincing evidence of His existence that would convince anyone who actually has a thinking mind, which He presumably endowed us with. Poor show. So tell Him I said hi and I guess I'll see Him in Hell or something and He can roast and torture me for all eternity in His infinite mercy or something. At least they have central heating there. (Can you tell I don't have time for that kind of nonsense now? If God actually exists, I expect better than a petty narcissistic nutjob who gets some sick pleasure out of tormenting His creation. He gave us a brain, and my brain doesn't allow me to believe that such an absurd deity could exist. It's just too dumb. So I won't be losing any sleep over whether I might burn in Hell or Jahannam for all eternity or whatever. It's fear-mongering bs to control gullible people and too silly for words. That's what cults do. Believe it if you want though.)

If God really does exist, the only sane and logical explanations I can see are either He's a massive Troll with a f**ked-up sense of humor, or he's evil/a psycho, or he's done a bunk. Or something similar. The universe is simply too absurd for anything else.

Does that answer your question?

"I'm just some guy on the internet."

Me too.

" so don't waste your time trying to convert me"

If I was going to try to convert you I would have already said something.

"I'm pissed that He doesn't even have the decency to exist and own up for the absolute shitshow He left by creating this crazy immoral and brutal world or provide us any vaguely convincing evidence of His existence that would convince anyone who actually has a thinking mind, which He presumably endowed us with."

God does exist. All you have to do is ask Him. He hasn't left us. The violence in this world is caused by man, not God. He gave us a series of commandments so what we wouldn't have a horrible place to live in. But people, even some Christians, turn their backs on God and that is when everything falls apart.

God is not a dictator. He gave us freedom to choose. But freedom always has consequences. It is up to take responsibility for our mistakes and try to mad restitution for any damage we cause. That is how we make the world a better place. Until everyone follows God by their own volition the world is going to be a horrible place, but not everywhere. There are still a whole lot of forces for good that make life good.

"If God actually exists, I expect better than a petty narcissistic nutjob who gets some sick pleasure out of tormenting His creation."

You may have been raise a Christian but you truly do not understand who God is. God is not tormenting anyone.

"He gave us a brain"

He did but even someone with a brain can stull not understand what life is all about.

"So I won't be losing any sleep over whether I might burn in Hell or Jahannam for all eternity or whatever."

You create your own hell.

"It's fear-mongering bs to control gullible people and too silly for words"

I must admit that there are a lot of Christian denominations that focus far too much on the negative. The Bible does talk about the negative but I am thinking that it was written for people who lived in a much more violent time that we live in and this was what they would understand. But it isn't that hard to pull the real message out of the Bible without the few times it seems threatening. The threats are what you will do to yourself.

BTW I am not trying to convert you. Just letting you know that there is just a whole lot more to God then what you think.

BTW the right is just trying to maintain and/or restore the American experiment that the founding fathers left for is.

The left wants to throw that all away and start over with a system of government that has done nothing but spread death, misery, suffering and extreme poverty every time it is tried.

That is what the divide is about. It isn't as simple as chalking it up to nonsense.

People who support socialism tend to be violent and the left is showing that more and more everyday. That's why socialism is directly responsible for between 100 and 150 Million people's deaths.

The left is blind to these facts and brush it off by saying those other countries did it wrong. They just cannot see that there is just no getting socialism right. They seem to think that the Scandinavian countries are what socialism is all about, it's not. There is no socialism lite because at the core it takes all rights away from the individual, specifically property rights. If we can't own our house, our land or our lives then someone else does and we live for them. It makes slaves of us all.

This is why there is an impending civil war on the horizon. The left wants revolution, just like all socialists do. They have been pounding the idea that the US is an oppressive country for decades now and far too many people believe that. These are people who have no clue what real oppression is but they think they have been oppressed by who ever and it is mostly white people.

Whatever oppression that has ever existed in this country is gone. There is no more slavery, there are no more genocide of Native Americans. Jim Crow laws are extinct. Capitalism is NOT oppressive, it is just the free exchange of goods and/or services, nothing more nothing less.

I don't want a civil war. I never have. I don't think most on the right want one. There are people full of armchair bravery who haven't thought it all through but they are not indicative of everyone.

The war will happen when the socialists have enough people on their side. According to the people pushing this the most they need 3.5% support for revolution to foment one. They're roughly at 3% right now. These are not my words and most of the useful idiots, the foot soldiers, haven't a clue that they're manipulators are playing them like this..

That's the excuse people make when they want to commit violence but don't want to get the criticism for starting it

Just more leftist guilt transference. The left are very skilled at that, they have been pushing off their sins on everyone who isn't them for decades. Unfortunately, we see through your game.

The left wants their socialist revolution and they want to blame it all on the right.

Allahu akbar has been the war cry of Muslims throughout history. “Deus vult” is the Christian response. Let the slaughter begin right?

Just messin' with ya, bro.

"Allahu akbar" is commonly chanted by terrorists and suicide bombers, yes, so that's what it's now (in)famous for in the West. It's also a common expression used in all kinds of perfectly happy and peaceful situations though, and much more commonly used in peaceful settings. The terrorists just made it famous.

Christians say "Hallelujah!" or "Oh my God!" or "Praise the Lord!" when they're happy or expressing awe and gratitude; Muslims say "Allahu akbar" or other expressions invoking God.

"God/Allah is Greater" or "God is Greatest". Allah is the Arabic name for God used by Arabic-speaking Muslims, Jews and Christians as well as others. You'll find it in both the Qur'an and the Arabic Bible. Theologically pretty different from the Christian and Jewish God, sure, but the same name is used by adherents of all three religions in daily life and their sacred texts. You can see it here in the first verse of Genesis. الله is Allah.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=ERV-AR

"Allahu akbar" is said multiple times during every daily Islamic prayer, during the call to prayer, at weddings, births, parties, joyous occasions and for all kinds of things in everyday life. I don't think "Deus vult" has traditionally been nearly as commonly uttered by Christians.

Though it may be a simple saying used for many things it is the same utterance used when decapitating enemies and infidels. As exemplified by the very public executions Islamists perform. Ever heard a Christian proclaiming “hallelujah!” While executing their enemies?

Okay, I'll confess I haven't heard a Christian shout "Hallelujah!" while decapitating a heretic so fair enough, but tbf I wasn't alive when the Spanish Inquisition or Crusades or witch hunts or KKK lynchings were a common thing.

So I don't know what they chanted tbf.

Allahu akbar is still uttered multiple times every single day by billions of Muslims and only a tiny minority of times is it used by Islamist nutjobs about to blow their brains out and kill innocent people coz they think they'll go to paradise or something (which is not what Islam teaches anyway so jokes on them coz suicide is like one of the top sins after "shirk" (associating partners with God).

Murdering innocents is not allowed either, believe it or not, so terrorists need to learn to read. It's totally forbidden in Islam, believe it or not, so they're full of shit. You're not even allowed to destroy their crops or kill their livestock ffs, let alone murder innocent women and children and commit atrocities.

So what Hamas did on Oct 7th goes completely against actual Islamic teachings. Theyre just terrorists. It's not Islamic. Massacring innocents is not allowed in Islam. If Islam is true, they're going straight to hell or something so joke's on them.

They're just delusional enough to think they're doing God's work. Along with anyone gulliblr or delusional enough to support them, if you ask me.

Like, don't get me wrong: Islam isn't free from violence, by any means, but murdering innocents is NOT allowed. End of. So they're full of shit.

Like KKK members thinking Jesus commanded them to lynch black people. He didn't. Do KKK members represent most Christians?

The expression in itself is not violent; it's just how it's used.

Right the question wasn’t if it was ever uttered it was if you ever heard it. In your lifetime. Because we are living now not a thousand years ago.

We have seen the “good” Muslims cheer for and defend the Oct 7th attacks and the World Trade Center disaster. Islam commands violence for various offenses. It is not a religion of peace towards non believers and in many instances calls for violence and exploitation of them.

You can be an apologist for the good Muslims. I would rather see them speak for themselves. We never do though.

This is a photo of Saudi men performing a traditional dance. (Google reverse image search is your friend, habibi. Thank me later, inshallah, ya habib albi.)

I'm a bit confused what your point is. What could go wrong?

You're worried the dancers don't have fully comp health insurance that covers sword dancing and they may not be covered in case of accidents, or that they'll have to pay excess to make the claim?

Or do you just think all 2 billion Muslims in the world are clones, that all Muslims are Arabs, that they're all also from Afghanistan or Iran, which aren't Arab countries (trust me: don't get that wrong and thank me later), that they're all terrorists, that they all wear the same clothes, brandish scimitars, or swords, and want to take over my local pub with Sharia law and stuff?

Shall we do another meme where we show Morris Dancers taking over from the LAPD or sth?

https://www.alamy.com/saudi-men-perform-the-traditional-arda-dance-or-war-dance-during-the-janadriyah-festival-of-heritage-and-culture-on-the-outskirts-of-the-saudi-capital-riyadh-saudi-arabia-friday-april-29-2011-ap-photohassan-ammar-image523653754.html

Unfortunately the religion of Islam commands conquering (as opposed to say Christianity which just says spread the good word). If they aren't taking over countries, they are bad at being Muslim.

Christianity says spread peace? Really? The Americas might beg to differ, sorry.

Quite a few hundreds of millions of people might beg to differ.

You might want to review history. The moment the Catholic Church started the inquisitions and started murdering anyone that wasn't Christian, they deviated from God's word. Anyone claiming to do violence in God's name without a direct mandate from God himself is not representing Christianity.

For sure. But the same could arguably be said of any religion, and any minority claiming to represent it. Islamic suicide bombers also aren't acting according to what their religion teaches. Islam doesn't teach the wholesale indiscriminate slaughter of innocents, and suicide in itself is a serious sin anyway. Some top Islamic scholars do actually come out and condemn this stuff. You just don't hear about it much because it doesn't get picked up in the Western news half the time. And also I think they don't do it enough tbf and need to shout a bit louder so I'd agree with that criticism levelled by many Westerners.

Here's an example of a top Islamic scholar from Gaza speaking out against Hamas's actions:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4vw1l8xvdo

The difference between Christianity and Islam is the violence is baked into Islam. It's literally in their holy book.

Where? Please show me.

The Old Testament is pretty violent. (The New Testament much less so but it also has a few awkward bits.)

Arguably far more violent than anything in the Qur'an.

The Qur'an talks about judgement and hellfire a "hell" of a lot.

The Bible talks about genocide, slavery, incest and other questionable practices. Is Christianity compatible with the West and modern democracy? Discuss. Maybe we should deport them all back to where they came from? 🤔

Here are a few examples from the Bible (don't worry: there are loads more where that came from):

Psalm 137:9 (smash babies' heads against the rocks)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20137%3A9&version=NIV

Judges 19:29 (chop yo bitch up)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges%2019%3A29&version=NIV

Numbers 31:17–24 (kill everyone)

https://www.bible.com/bible/59/NUM.31.17-24.ESV

1 Samuel 15:3 (genocide is cool)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%2015%3A3&version=NIV

2 Kings 2: 23–24 (Call a guy baldie; get ripped limb from limb by bears)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%202%3A23-24&version=NIV

Genesis 19: 30–36 (Incest, anyone? I mean, who doesn't like sleeping with their dad?)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019%3A30-36&version=NIV

Genesis 19:4 (nothing like giving your own daughters to be gang raped)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019&version=NIV

The Qur'an has nothing like this level of violence or immorality. Just saying.

Any questions?

Your civilization is literally built on this book by the way.

You gotta remember that the Bible records history. Just because it describes something that happened doesn't mean it condones it. The ones you list are clearly called out as sin( wrong doing that is destructive)
Other parts you just take out of context for instance:
Psalm 137 (King James Version)
1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.
4 How shall we sing the LORD’s song in a strange land?
5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Its talking about the people of Babylon being happy to kill their babies.

Ever considered becoming a Buddhist, btw? Their holy scriptures aren't quite as violent. Or a Jain? They're the ones that sweep bugs out of their way to avoid killing them. Not in the news much coz they don't tend to blow themselves up or colonize countries (ikr?). Also not the ones that stone people to death. (Easy mistake, tbf.)

It's only a few thousand years old so they haven't quite learned the "ropes" yet, like the Ku-Klux-Klan, spreading the love of Baby Jesus to sinners.

Also the Buddhists and Jains weren't as good at conquering and subjugating half the world, ethnically cleansing the Jews, Muslims and Gypsies or at least putting them in ghettoes for safe keeping to stop them being naughty, sucked at the Atlantic Slave Trade, and didn't even learn how to burn witches properly. Noobs for real. Talk about a lame religion. All they do is meditate or sth. Lost souls who need Jesus in their lives.

PS I await your response. Take your time. Weeks or months if you need. I can wait.

Troll me all you like. I love trolls.

But please own your religion, my friend. Pot kettle and all that.

I'm no apologist for Islam either btw. Let's get that straight right off the bat. (I don't believe in God so have no skin in the game. I think all religion is just as implausible, and I know I'm going to burn in Hell for all eternity and I've come to terms with that and you won't change my mind any time this millennium (or a hundred millennia), believe me, so save your energy on another lost soul that needs it more.)

But you make a bold claim, I counter it. This ain't Quora, you know.

Then I expect you to counter me back. It's a fun game, wouldn't you agree?

So hit me. I'm waiting. Tell me what I said was bullshit (maybe it was?). I'm not your average libtard snowflake. I can take it so please don't hold back. I'm here for a damn good debate. So don't let me down. Roast me. I mean it.

Islam specifically has calls for violence and justifies immorality as long as you do it in the name of Allah. Some examples
Quran 9:5 – “The Verse of the Sword” (آية السيف)
“And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way…”
Convert or die essentially.

Quran 9:29
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture — [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”
Essentially pay the tolerance tax or die.

Quran 5:51
“O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies (awliyāʾ). They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you — then indeed, he is [one] of them…”
If you are friends with them, you might as well be one of them.

There are tons all throughout that prescribe general violence. Later chapters supersede earlier ones and anything from the old testament, unlike Christianity where everything from beginning to end stands.

flipmymeme;
Well done reply.
My due diligence slipped on the picture because I searched 'Saudi religious police', and this was in the top 10 results.
As to what could go wrong...while the insurance claim is a nice point, I was thinking more along the lines of a scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark, and what could happen to the responders, swords or not.
The whole Muslim/Arab lesson...me and my goldfish brain read and post things for entertainment. Mine are usually made to be taken at face value, no deep thinking required.
If I were to do an LA meme for this...Mariachi Band would be my choice...instead of the Morris Dancers, I would use Riverdancers for Boston.

💀 Who doesn't love a bit of trolling?

What could possibly go wrong... ? 🤔👀

Redo the meme with Mariachi Band taking over the streets of NYC and Mamdani as the lead singer, brandishing any leftwing totem of your choice. Don't forget the screaming blue-haired woman, keffiyehs and commie flags. 🌈 And Sleepy Joe tottering around in the background and falling up stairs. I'll let you cheat and use AI if you want. I'm expecting good things. Don't let me down. 🥳