Thank you President Trump

Bow for a rebuttal from any typical leftist: "B-B-But Trump still hasn't fixed the economy that Dementia Joe Biden's nation-hating leftist handlers destroyed! So Trump is EVIL!" Upvoted.

You are right that will be the talking point but anyone that buys things and pays bills has seen prices drop, shelves are full and people are looking forward to the holidays. The shutdown is hurting a lot of people but when you listen to people in restaurants everyone is backing President Trump.

The demonrats really screwed up this time. There is no rich vs poor fight like the dims wanted, I am seeing people lining up to help others. I don't need any help, but our church emailed everyone a list of places that offers help, asked for donations for families that will need help for a Thanksgiving meal and gifts for Christmas. The churches and synagogues are always ready.

Alms for the poor has always been a conservative value and never a leftist one. As far as leftists are concerned that's what taxpayer pockets are FOR.

Conservative pastors take in boatloads of money for themselves not anybody else

Maybe it's some sort of cultural/ethnic bias... I can't, for the life of me, figure the appeal of Trump.

I never liked Reagan or Clinton either, but I understood what it was about those two that those that really really liked them on a hyper level liked about them. They each had a presence, a charm, a manner, the looks, the personality... that could be seen to be likeable (I saw them as fake).

But these mega pastors, televangelists... They always creeped the hell out of me. To the point that I actually used to feel guilty about it, like was I somehow prejudiced against them? I didn't feel I was, but why did I feel so yago looking at them? Then they started falling one by one, getting caught with Polaroids taken in seedy motel rooms in New Orleans with ladies of the night. I'm referring to the 1980s with the Moral Majority types, natch.

Anywho, perhaps it's a taste thing, those who throw money at these fakers find them appealing, so therefore they're also jizzy about Trump, as he oozes a similar unsavory vibe, to put it nicely.

They will blindly grasp for anything . . . no matter how idiotic it makes them look with the general public. Yep.

They had to ensure Biden actually being creepy, like documentedly so, and they saw the damage that did to their brand.

So the juvenile instinct is to simply repeat the fact as an insult to the opposition. "I know you are, but what am I?"

*endure. oops....

Nobody calls trump a pedophile to distract from anything Joe Biden did, we call him that because that's what he is. And he's on record making sexual comments about his own daughter when she was a child 😂😂

trump either raped his daughter or gave her to guys like Epstein who did

The economy was on an upswing before the election. pedotrump set a bunch of tariffs in place that economic experts said were not a good idea and because of that American farmers can't sell their crops like they normally would. His own voters are suffering and he couldn't care less 😂😂

Yeah and he voted against ending the shutdown 13 times, oh wait that was youinsguys

FACT

trumps policies are hurting American farmers and you don't even care

Lol, where? leave your basement and talk to an actual farmer

Where? Is this a trick question?
Out on the family farm out in farmalandia where the kidz are out helping gramps pluck the strawberries and milking Ol' Bessie the cow so they can spend the afternoon trip churning the butter maybe?

Leave your basement and ask farmers, Republicans have always done a better job protecting our infrastructure. I have never seen a single rancher, farmer or produce company owner wearing an Obama or Biden cap.

And look where it's gotten them

Oh come on, you act like it's a bad thing.

Face it, not like Jr was so eager to one day get to employ illegal Mexicans on the family farm while he could live somewhere closer to the nearest Walmart instead.

That's why these so-called patriots fly the Confederate flag. They couldn't give a crap about their own family, let alone the United States of America.

I'm unable to do that, as the basement is crammed with a ton of boxes from someone who doesn't even live in the house anymore. I got a few down there myself.

Republicans have done an illustrously glorious job of first moving much of manufacturing to the perpetually ecomically moribund South because they've been utterly incapable of developing their own since we Yankees took their slavery away, then relocating factories abroad where it's even cheaper than that.

And now they're doing it to farming too, the one thing other than movies and university education that the US excelled at better than other places.

But that's okay. It's okay. The so-called family farm hasn't been farmed by families since the Great Depression, and with Jr busy with the Xbox, first thing he'll do once the folks are gone is to sell it so it can be developed into tract housing. With the actual laborers being sent back to from whence they came, that process is being speeded up.

We do have mega corporations and China and Saudi Arabia also buying that farmland, so at least those bucolic Little House on the Prairie Norman Rockwell scenes can be kept alive for the post-family farm grandkids should they ever pass through for a visit.

You are hilarious, I have doubled our families land, and we are doing fine.

I am, aren't I?

Oh, so the Manufactured in China goods your business that you own that you just mentioned a couple of comments ago for which you pay for the elevated tariff costs out of your own pocket because you're so magnanimous like that is now soybeans for the booming soymeal supplements for aspiring Soybois industry?

I can't tell what you are rambling on about. Are you mad that President Trump saved farmers, or because he turned our economy around?

He didn't do either... Unless you're talking about Argentinians, saving their farmers. They're American too.

Even Fox News admits it

Yeah, but that's only, like, 30%.
Perhaps they can donate it to the Help Bail Out Argentina™ fund to help their rancheros feed the beef they're shipping here to screw US ranchers who've been price gouging to record highs all for nought now.

What Fox didn't say was the coop's told the soy farmers not to trust China and the idiots planted it anyway. President Trump fixed it for them and the sales will happen. I hope they learned never plant what China wants.

They have been doing business with china for years, why would they suddenly stop trusting china about soybean sales?

That's not how that works but if you want to pay billions for your cell phone go for it.

Actually it is.
But your faith in the generosity of spirit maintained by corporations for their peon customer base is most encouraging.

"Don't worry, faithful consumers, this one's on us"

It would take hours to discuss the pros and cons of tariffs and who ultimately pays but here is the short version.

Countries like China can use modern slave labor and undercut American businesses, even when shipping costs are high. If everyone bought made in the USA products, we would still make things here at home, but reality is almost everything in your home was made outside of our borders.

When governments sell anything undervalue it can crush American farms and businesses, they will eventually go broke and collapse. Tariffs equal the playing field; remember the equality you are always harping about?

Corporations can and will pass along the costs, but they can only do so until the consumer moves onward to one of their competitors. At some point they will do what is necessary to make a sell.

As a small businessman I am forced to purchase somethings made overseas, we as a nation do not manufacture much anymore. President Trump is changing that; more and more manufacturing is moving back to the USA. If I can't find what I need locally, I order from a country not facing tariffs. If I can buy something from Thailand for 50% less than a similar item made in China that's what I do. Generally, I only buy Chinese made products second hand or if I can't find it anywhere else. More and more I'm finding it easier to avoid it altogether.

Nothing comes without a cost; tariffs can make or break an industry. It is better to try than do nothing. President Trump understands international commerce and our nation is lucky to have him.

tl;dr

When someone here in Americanskinovska wants to buy from another country, we have to pay extra for most. Britain? 10%. France? 15%. Australia? 0%. Canada was 0%, but then Dear Leader got upset so now they're back at 10%.

So whether it's a small purchase from eBay or a larger shipment of goods for resale in the US, people have to pay extra for most countries abroad.

Someone has to pay for that extra that they have to pay extra for. In a cute Santa Claus Comes to Town movie on ABC in December world, that would mean businesses would simply pay the extra themselves out of their own pocket and keep it that way because they're generous like that and they're not in the business of staying in business anyways.

In reality, the extra cost would be passed on to the consumer, as they always are, with an extra percentage added to the markup for 'processing.'

Because math.

We would have been better off with one of your one line deflections on this one instead of us having to waste my time explaining to you something that you already know.

So your solution is do nothing, let American owned businesses close so you can buy cheap chinese junk. You are a true communist.

That's your solution. I'm not a Republican.

I'm not making memes celebrating Dear Leader making glorious deals with Xi Jinping when what he should be doing is terminating all business with them. All. Business. No more soybeans to them, and no more 'American' products from them.

Can't even buy American anymore, because it's still made in China. Just the label on the box was printed here. The labels are printed here, right?

The dims caused all this; President Trump is fixing their mistakes.

"Corporations can and will pass along the costs, but they can only do so until the consumer moves onward to one of their competitors."

Their competitors are also subject to tariffs. Companies don't raise prices just to be mean, they raise prices when their costs go up. Their manufacturing costs will go up, so they will have to raise prices to cover it or go out of business (just like with other taxes).

You are forgetting tariffs target individual countries, usually for unfair trading practices. A tariff on Chian doesn't raise prices if you by the same item from Thailand.

True, but in many cases that's not possible (I don't get to decide where my wife's iPhone is manufactured) and besides that we're tariffing Thailand, too

I just picked Thailand because I have bought things from there, it would be the same anywhere. One other important detail the media leaves out tariffs target specific things, rarely all exports.

That's a deliciously ironic choice of words, my friend, considering that an iPhone manufactured in the US would cost $30,000.

I'm all for on-shoring manufacturing, but we need to obliterate the regulatory state in order to do that, not just make manufacturing overseas also prohibitively expensive

Then you need to vote Republican, that is the only party trying to limit the size of government.

I am a registered Republican and always vote straight Republican. That doesn't mean I'm participating in the mass amnesia of basic economics that our otherwise pretty good President somehow managed to initiate in the once small government, trade-friendly Republican party