The Presentation

be a goodie, don't share your cookie

If you want to pass judgement on her medical procedures, I'm sure you're willing to let her decide what happens between you and your urologist and proctologist.

And its not a medical procedure.

Speaking from your experience of having an abortion, I take it?

Speaking from experience of information.

An abortion is a medical procedure, even if it's by pill. You may want to find more accurate sources of information.

Thats completely irrelevant.

Not at all. Right to privacy is right to privacy, as is doctor-patient confidentiality, regardless of genitalia.

I agree. Still irrelevant.

What amazes me is how if the father, he has no say in it because it's her body, her choice. But if she decides to take it to term, it damn well IS his baby, and he'd better pay up.

Yup. The world is crazy that way.

To quote Charlie, he shouldn't have "shared his cookie". And Sobrmn apparently recommends that men who don't want to be fathers offer oral sex.

She shouldn't have come on to him if she didnt want him to share his cookie. It's only his baby when she wants his money.

So you still place all the blame on the woman.

Yes I do.

Except in the case of rape, the woman is the gatekeeper. She decides who she will sleep with and when. If she makes a bad decision, drunken or otherwise, it's not the babies fault, and if a man has the potential to be on the hook for the money whether she wants to stay with him or not, he should have a say as to whether she should be allowed to have the abortion.

"I've decided I'm bored with you, so I'll be sleeping with the pool guy for the time being, I'm still going to need you to fork over half your paycheck though (giggle)". (me and the pool guy will be needing money for our weekend festivities (giggle)".

I'd like to see receipts. I gave you $500 last week, I want to see $500 worth of school supplies, clothes, etc. But they don't like that idea, they want to be able to go get those new shoes they've been wanting, with maybe $35 going towards spaghettios for the kid.

110%. Sure.

Gotta love the double standards on this one!

So many examples of it...

Other people's medical choices aren't your business. Get over it.

Killing unborn babies isn't medical. It's just murder, that's all.
By the way, glad you like the meme.

There are medical reasons why an abortion would be recommended or necessary

Abortion is necessary for the women who had a very bad miscarriage during their pregnancy.
Getting an abortion after voluntarily sleeping with her boyfriend (which he didn't bother to wear a condom) is a different manner.
Being told that abortion is recommended is another way for them to avoid responsibility after a one night stand. Whether they keep the child or not, they have to face the consequences of choices.
Didn't they believe that "their body, their choice"?

You believe that the women who get abortions are just sleeping around and having one night stands? That's very insulting and not true. Many married women, including conservative married women have abortions.

The same thing applies to the liberal women; they also terminated their pregnancies when they don't want a child.

Some women do sleep around with mutiple men and they sometimes terminates their pregnancies. As someone here has pointed out, most women who choose to have abortions neither have health issues or victims of rape.

Why else do you think that abortion clinics are doing well financially? Do you really believe that there's no consquences once the choice is being made?

Does it ever occur to that guys should take responsibility of knocking up his girlfriend? Should he got her pregnant, he have a choice whether he leaves or took care of the child and the mother.
Both men and women have to be responsible of their choices, you know.

Yes, people should make responsible choices. But just because you think abortion is not a responsible choice, that's just like your opinion man.

White Russian?

I'm black. Hence the name "choccymilkman".

White Russian is a reference to the big lebowski. It's the drink he always makes for himself

I don't drink liquor. But thanks for the offer.

Terminating pregnancies after voluntarily sleeping with someone is not responsible.
Wearing condoms, or better still, abstaining from sex for a while are the best options to prevent from unwanted pregnancies.

But I guess you won't agree to that, I suppose.

Why is it not responsible? If she can't care for a child or doesn't want to carry one the responsible thing is to not bring it into the world

Exactly. If they're not ready to have kids, then she needs to keep her legs closed, while he needs to keep it in his pants. If they wanted to have sex so badly, use protection. Problem solved.

Have a pleasant evening, buddy.

I feel that this question is sort of a techno-virgin dog whistle. You can really tell who's never had sex, or has never enjoyed it.

Condoms break. All birth control is fallible. If never having sex until you want to have kids works for you, enjoy. The rest of us get to make our own choices with our bodies (which includes having consensual sex).

I agree. And you accept the risks that go with it. Like pregnancy.

Its not your body. It is another person you are murdering.

And you get to make the choices with your body. Like abortion.

The statistics are very clear 99.3% of all abortions have nothing to do with health, incest, or rape. (Source: combined state health departments).

According to this, it's closer to 4%, and this chart is by a group that strongly opposes abortion

Granted, they don't provide their sources for these numbers, but if even anti-abortion activists are saying that it's at least 4% due to health or rape or incest, that shows that your numbers are not reliable

What is this source. You need to provide the source and examine the methodology.
Combined state health departments say 99.3%.

There really arent.

😂😂

Look it up. A woman in Ireland, Savita Halappavanar died because she wasn't allowed to have an abortion and it caused such bad complications that it took her life. Women in red states have been told they can't have an abortion until they are near death and some of them have had to sit in the parking lot bleeding out until they get to the point where they can be given the proper medical treatment. Pregnancy can have a lot of complications, including very severe ones that can kill somebody.

if a woman you know it has an ectopic pregnancy tell her she shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion and that the embryo should have to grow inside her fallopian tube until it ruptures and causes her severe injury or death 🤔😂😂

In almost every scenario a C-section would solve the issue.

For example, an ectopic pregnancy can't be solved with a C-section.

The statistics are very clear 99.3% of all abortions have nothing to do with health, incest, or rape. (Source: combined state health departments).

Even anti abortion groups don't say that's true

You have to look at the statistics bro. Stop believing everything that's told to you.

Yes but that is a different case, where the baby will die no matter what happens.

I have carried more than one pregnancy to term, and this is laughably wrong. Stop telling women and their doctors what to do.

It isnt though. And I have never told a doctor or woman what to do with a pregnancy.

When you write, "In almost every scenario a C-section would solve the issue," you're giving (extremely flawed) medical advice.

I am not giving medical advice at all. I am stating a fact related to medicine.

Only in some cases, not in others

Almost all.

Tay-Sachs. Ectopic pregnancy. Single fetal death in a twin pregnancy.

Oh, and: the woman chooses not to carry the pregnancy to term.

Tay-sachs is a disease that a child can inherit from its parents and begins to affect the child during the first few months after birth. Ectopic pregnancy guarantees the childs death no matter what. The other twin can still survive and be born normally, though with increased risk of various problems. And most other cases are murder.

Tay-sachs is 100% painfully fatal within a couple of years. Ectopic pregnancy is non-viable: it never results in a live birth and can permanently injure or kill the woman unless she has an abortion. The other twin can still survive -- often IF AND ONLY IF the mother has the dead twin aborted: again, this is a situation where abortion is actually a life-saving procedure.