This makes Antifa a very idiotic group. They want to replace fascism with communism. In other words, socialism with socialism.

Yes and now a generic leftist response: B-B-But that can't be true because none of our public school leftist teachers or Marxist college professors ever told us anything along those lines!

Exactly. The left has been pushing this lie since the 1940's and they've been very successful about it. They have it just about everywhere. They're biggest fear is that people will research this on their own and find out their all full of crap.

Indeed, and precisely why Dementia Joe Bidens handlers tried to establish a federal level -- George Orwell '1984' type -- Ministry of Truth in order to censor any 'misinformation' consisting of irrefutable and established facts and logic.

Fascism is on the far left. Get use to it. When WWII started, the American Progressives had a serious problem. They had been openly supporting Nazis, fascists, communists, socialists and any other type of Marxist. They held rallies all around the country. They held a Neo-Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. The American Progressives looked at Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin as "men of the future".

But then WWII started and the United States when to war with Hitler and Mussolini. If the Progressives continued their support they would be branded traitors. So they did what they always do, pushed their sins off on the political right. They begin teaching in schools, it is in the entertainment industry. Books have been written to support this stupidity. They were so successful that the majority of Americans believe that fascism and Nazism are on the political right.

If that was true then where does freedom, the Constitution, our inalienable rights given to us by our Creator all fit? The answer. It doesn't. Just like trying to sit in the middle seat between two very fat people on an airplane, there is just no room for freedom.

So the scale needs to be restored back to what it was before the Progressives push this nonsense on the public.

All variations of Socialism are on the far left. Anarchy (no government at all) is on the extreme far right. Libertarians are a few steps to the left of the extreme right. Conservatives are a few steps to the left of Libertarians. Republicans have moved to about a half a step to the right of the far left.

Trump has moved to the conservative area on the political scale.

My high school civics teacher taught me that same thing. I cared nothing for politics back then so I just accepted it. Until I learned the truth about 20 years ago.

The generally accepted political spectrum of right and left is a lie. A huge lie to protect Progressives who once cherished fascism and Nazism along with socialism and communism.

It is not a circle. You cannot go in one direction far enough only to find out that is where you started. It doesn't work that way.

The far left is total government control over the individual and the far right is anarchy, no government at all. Not the kind of anarchy you hear about from radical leftists. That anarchy is a tool to bring down our government and replace it with a communist, socialist or fascist regime. That is what Antifa is all about. The type of anarchy I am talking about is just no government at all, ever. None. No replacement with another government. I've met people who believe in that kind of anarchy. They follow the writings of a man named Lysander Spooner.

There is an end on each side. You cannot go farther left to be even more totalitarian once you have achieved North Korea totalitarianism. You cannot go farther right to have even less government that no government at all. And the linear approach actually has room for freedom, unlike the stupid idea that fascists and Nazis are on the right and socialists and communists are on the left. They ALL the same thing. If that is the right vs left then where is liberty? Where are our inalienable rights? They don't exist in the generally accepted right vs left line.

Nor do they exist in the circular graph because the two ends have an end.

Our nation was founded on the principle that put us a few steps to the left of total anarchy. Our politicians have pushed us almost completely to the left, especially the Democrats but the Republican party is right behind them. That is not to say that Republican voters are that far to the left. I don't think any thinking Democrat voter is as close to totalitarianism as the party is.

That's like saying replacing a rottweiler with a poodle is like replacing a dog with a dog

I can accept that. In your analogy I would have to say that I don't like dogs. Any of them.

I don't care about the minor details between all 4 statist ideologies. Like dogs they share far too much in common. It doesn't matter if it is a Chihuahua or a St Bernard. I know that statists get crazy enough about the minor details that they will murder over them. Hitler killed all of the socialists and the socialists killed Mussolini. The original Antifa wanted to kill the fascists because they were communists. The current Antifa isn't too far removed from that. They just have no clue what fascism is.

Just like it doesn't matter if fascists prefer to work with businesses and socialists and communists want to throw out all of the business leaders and replace them with "experts". They still have total and complete control over the businesses. There is no private property rights in any of those ideologies.

From where us Constitutionalists are sitting we just look at y'all as morons. How could anyone with a brain fall for any of that evil. You really have to ignore history completely and you must never ever compare fascism with socialism, nazism with communism and any of those with the Democrat party platform.

a6ll1e.jpg (click to show) A nazi flag at the Unite the Right rally, if nazis and fascists are leftists, why would many neo-nazis and neo-fascists come to a rally that was pro-right and anti-left? It's called Unite the Right for goodness sake! And I'm not a leftist in case you accuse me of being one

My guess it is because the Republican Party leadership has been pushing the Overton window towards the left almost as fast as the Democrats are. I'm thinking they found a home with the Republicans who are just jack-asses wearing an elephant costume.

I ran into a neo-nazi online about 20 years ago. His political ideology was identical to the Democrat party. He wanted everything Democrats are trying to push on us. He was the polar opposite of conservatives.

I wondered if the Democrat party had made some deal with the neo-nazis and white supremacists that if they joined the Republican party they would give them something. I don't know what and it is just a thought.

The neo-nazi dude that I talked was a Democrat who openly hated blacks and Jews.

I also know one more important fact. Every conservative rally that has been going on since the Tea Party has crashers. The media and people with swastikas and/or Confederate Battle flags. They show up at the same time and they leave at the same time. The people with swastikas and flags are just there so the media has the photo they want. I used to attend Tea Party rallies and we were warned about these two groups. We were asked to bring video cameras so we can capture video of this happening.

So your picture that you posted is one that was staged just so would think that conservatives are all neo-nazis or kkk. And no matter how many of us who try to tell you that we are not the people you accuse us of, you still believe it. Mainly because you want to believe it and that is prejudice and discrimination. It is no different than the neo-nazis and kkk's opinion of blacks and Jews. It is based entirely on what they want to believe, not the facts.

I did not say I think all conservatives are neo-nazis or kkk

That's good. Only neo-nazis and kkk members are neo-nazis and kkk. They have absolutely nothing in common with conservatives.

There is one thing that is sort of in common. For whatever reason the kkk has hijacked the Confederate Battle flag. Which sucks for those of us who were born in the South and look at that flag as just meaning that you're proud of where you are from. I do not hate black or Jews. I don't hate anyone. I hate certain political ideologies but not the people who espouse them. I do not think I am better than anyone else. I believe all races are God's children and God loves us all equally. Skin color is just an external feature like eye color and hair color. Everyone I know pretty much thinks just like that. I have met racist conservatives and I have also met racist leftists. The left loves to pride themselves as being anti-racist but dirty little secret is there are actually more racist people on the left than on the right. The more extreme leftist the more chance of being a racist.

Unlike a lot of leftists, lately, I very much support Israel's right to exist as a nation. I do not believe that Palestinians have that belief. They want to exterminate every Jew. This is where the left has even more in common with the neo-nazis than just political ideology.

Also, I think I should clarify that the Unite the Right rally was not a conservative rally but an extremist rally with White Nationalists, neo-nazis, neo-fascists, neo-confederates, white nationalists, klansmen and alt-right members

They were probably organized by some leftist group and they gave them that name to impugn conservatives.

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