Identity politics has nothing to do with our American flag & has everything to do with RESPECT....

woah, congrats on 10M points!

Appreciate it, Funguy! Another nice conservative pointed it out to me this morning and that was how I learned of it.

Going from 5M to 10M took forever and you are almost 6M beyond that....amazing! Hey, I didn't think I could get an icon change but now with you getting me to think about it, I was eligible so changed it up. Thanks so much! :)

you're very welcome!

yeah icon changes are crazy hard now
my next one is at 21M

That is unfreaking unbelievable! I know this is a dumb question, but couldn't they have made it 20 million? 😆

I'm not exactly sure why this concept is so difficult to comprehend.

As an added bonus, you can actually consider it something of a boycott if you avoid buying flags that represent something that bothers you. For example, you don't see any Confederate flags where I live. I mean, nowhere around here, I don't mean just where there's a roof over my head. 'Round these parts, we don't like them, we don't buy them.

You can identify with the US flag, and also be LGBTQ+.

It's not mutually exclusive.

Being gay or trans or nonbinary doesn't automatically make you less American or less patriotic.

Personally, I don't GAF. I'm not gay or trans. But flags are stupid anyway.

The world is a very small speck in the cosmos. Do you really want to focus on this?

I did not say or even infer that the LGBTQ+ group was not patriotic. It would be silly to label any group as purely patriotic or unpatriotic. People are individuals and we are all different.

My meme quite clearly illustrates how we have one American flag and that flag deserves respect. To fly it with flags that have nothing to do with honoring our country
is to disrespect our national flag.

I guess that's where we culturally differ tbf. I dont give a shit about my country's flag. I mean, if you burn it in front of me I won't be impressed. But it's not some sacred totem. Burn it and shit on it for all I care. It's your right. I prob won't think highly of you, but I won't have a meltdown either. I really couldn't give a shit lol.

Your meme does actually imply a dig at LGPT flags though. You're implying that the US flag is somehow in opposition to the various LGBT flags.

They're not mutually exclusive tbf. You can be a patriotic American and also LGBTQ+.

Being gay or trans doesn't make you any less American or any less patriotic.

That's why I challenged your meme. Because that's what it arguably implied, even if you yourself don't think that.

There is a concerted liberal agenda to advance LGBTQ+. There is no denying that is true. My meme did not mention this push but it is exemplified when identity flags are flown with the American flag.

I did not imply that gay people are not patriots. I'm a follower of Brandon Straka (who started the 'walk away' movement) and I truly respect him and his strong stance FOR America. He is gay along with other gay folks who are great patriots.

The meme was about the 'lack of appropriateness' of placing our symbolic American flag with flags that are identity oriented. I would not want a heterosexual flag (if there was one) to be flown with our American flag.
There's a time and a place for everything.

And speaking of that, I do not ever see an appropriate time to burn our American flag. I see I am in opposition to your condoning of that behavior. You are protected to burn it if you so desire, but I would never do that for ANY amount of influence or money EVER.

So, people are different. I accept that but I am not sure that you do. You said I inferred something that I did not. Please point out exactly where you got that idea in what I said.

I take time to make my memes clear so that anyone could look at them and understand where I am coming from; I in no way could say that (much less want to impart that feeling to anyone else). So, please point out precisely where you got that from this meme...

Perhaps I misinterpreted your meme and inferred something from it that was different to the message you intended. I guess if people were trying to actually replace the US flag with the rainbow flag, that would be different, but it seems you weren't suggesting that. There's a ton of content mocking or critiquing LGBTQ+ stuff on here so it's hard to separate the more nuanced stuff. Thanks for clarifying it a bit more, though.

Upvote for realizing that 'perhaps' there was no bad intent in my meme. I'll take it. 🙂

Thanks for pointing out the heterosexual flag existence. That is something that I had not researched.

Brandon Straka. Wasn't he one of the guys at the Capitol House Party?

Tbf I wouldn't say I condone flag-burning as such. I certainly don't approve of it, and I don't think I would personally ever do it (it's a pretty tacky thing to do). So I probably agree with you more than it appears. And if someone did it deliberately to provoke me then I'd probably still be a bit annoyed. But I would probably also laugh a bit at how pointless it was as a vain attempt to trigger people.

It's not destroying the symbol *in itself* that offends me; more just their intent in whatever message they're trying to send (especially if it implied violent intent). But the symbol itself is just a piece of cloth so burn it if you want lol. It's not like they're winning any points or hurting me by doing that. So not on the same level for me as, say, desecrating a war grave or spray-painting obscenities in a place of worship or something.

I don't even particularly need a national flag to feel pride in where I'm from. I didn't create it. It's just a handy symbol to easily identify ourselves. I'll feel pride in my nation if it does stuff like show itself to be civilized, developed, culturally and technologically advanced, offers a good standard of living to all its citizens, upholds human rights and human dignity, and conducts itself well on the world stage.

"To fly it with flags that have nothing to do with honoring our country is to disrespect our national flag."

See, I don't think I agree there. It's common all over the world to fly multiple flags in the same place. Eg national flags alongside a couple of regional ones or flags of other organizations. I don't think flying them together necessarily dilutes the value of any of them. But that's just me. So yes, people are different and I do accept that. (Whether I always respect people's *opinions* on every topic is separate from whether I respect them as people. I think everyone deserves basic respect; but their opinions (and my own) are separate from our identities and can be challenged.)

"There is a concerted liberal agenda to advance LGBTQ+."

Yes. However, we would probably differ in our interpretations of what that means. I don't think acknowledging the rights of a minority necessarily undermines the rights of the majority.

FYI apparently there is in fact a heterosexual pride flag. I've never seen it, but if people wanna dress up as zebras then feel free lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_flag

This is Bandon Straka's powerful story. It is THE TRUTH. It includes footage never seen by most of us on Jan 6th.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/brandon-straka-releases-explosive-short-film-exposing-false-accusations-in-his-january-6th-case-302456254.html

I so hope that Donald Trump investigates the J6 committee because their unconscionable fabrications, lies and suppression of evidence impacted so many innocent people and their families.

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...but I gotta pair of balls of my own and can speak on my own behalf, run along a grab me another bud light and kneel before my flag!"
Lol

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