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It’s a poor form of morality that alllows you to kill people who you think have too much money.

I want to help tue most people. Unfortunately in capitalism, that means I make the least money. I want a society where one who exploits (by doing things like extracting money from the public or hiring wage slaves) gets punished and one who helps others (provides free food and free healthcare) gets rewarded

False, you'll harm most people by destroying wealth in the society level.

"You preachers of equality, the tyrannomania of impotence clamors thus out of you for equality: your most secret ambitions to be tyrants thus shroud themselves in words of virtue. Aggrieved conceit, repressed envy-perhaps the conceit and envy of your fathers-erupt from you as a flame and as the frenzy of revenge."

Friedrich Nietzsche Thus Spoke Zarathustra 1883

I mostly came up with an idea of how to run a society. No one has ever tried this but

The ones who work control the economy. Yes you heard it right.

Lies, you want to control the economy. If you allow a free market driven by the worker, you get you rich people owning lots of stuff.

But everyone works so everyone's in control

Everyone doesn't work...

Check out the national labor participation rate.

But in capitalism, property owners are in control. In communism, whoever works in the workplace controls the workplace.

That's not capitalism or communism.

Well if you work you control the economy and whoever doesn't work doesn't get that same control.

That's more or less what we have now.

How is not having the freedom to innovate “true freedom”? How is not having the right to private property “true freedom”? How is not having the individual rights to the fruit of my labor or investments “true freedom”?

It's not true freedom because you are taxed on your investments depending on what they are, and unlike the super rich your accountable for your income, and investments. America is becoming a caste society and that is why we are getting different economical political beliefs.

Unfortunately taxes are part of life. But even with taxes it’s still more free than “society” collectively owning all the means of production and getting all the rewards of my labor.

Well I guess it's a little combination of both. Unless you are super rich, or have no debt one is not truly free. I think people serving a lifetime prison sentence experience more freedom than their outside counterparts. No bills to pay, or money to make, family on the outside putting money on the books if they are lucky... I mean it's not freedom, but in a way it's monitary freedom from society to a point. I guess freedom is different for everyone. How someone feels free could be different.

Everybody works for somebody. Even Elon Musk, despite being the richest man in the world, works to provide services for others — anyone who wants a Tesla, or to use Starlink etc. Everyone is serving someone in capitalism.

I guess when defining what freedom is to someone it could be different for everyone, not just property owners. But perfume musk, can drop everything and go wherever he wanted on a daily basis, not everyone can do that.

True, he can go anywhere he chooses to go. But he’s also earned that right by being wise with money. Just because I can’t do that doesn’t give me an excuse to hate him.

You do realize he was born into a wealthy South African family, and if you are born into a rich family more than likely you will be supported, and succeed, but I know some rich people work hard for what they have. I think what some people hate is that rich people can hide money off shores, and evade taxes. They even claim their business is all that but in the end how much money do they really have? It's like saying I have $$$$ amount of wealth, my nobody is buying the 59k cyber trucks I built... So in all reality he might not be that rich if his businesses are failing.

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